Thomas Cook
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Can't remember last time there was a strike by Pilots.
Problem is they won't get much sympathy from the travelling public, 1-2% per cent is the norm for the lucky ones there's plenty of readers who can't relate to pay rises in the public service, schools etc let alone better holiday perks.
Having worked for xx airlines and been on the rock n roll 3 times i take what i get and happy that I get my pay cheque
Problem is they won't get much sympathy from the travelling public, 1-2% per cent is the norm for the lucky ones there's plenty of readers who can't relate to pay rises in the public service, schools etc let alone better holiday perks.
Having worked for xx airlines and been on the rock n roll 3 times i take what i get and happy that I get my pay cheque
Can't remember last time there was a strike by Pilots.
Problem is they won't get much sympathy from the travelling public, 1-2% per cent is the norm for the lucky ones there's plenty of readers who can't relate to pay rises in the public service, schools etc let alone better holiday perks.
Having worked for xx airlines and been on the rock n roll 3 times i take what i get and happy that I get my pay cheque
Problem is they won't get much sympathy from the travelling public, 1-2% per cent is the norm for the lucky ones there's plenty of readers who can't relate to pay rises in the public service, schools etc let alone better holiday perks.
Having worked for xx airlines and been on the rock n roll 3 times i take what i get and happy that I get my pay cheque
No sympathy here, that's for sure.
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Strikes rarely achieve anything positive but if that's what is needed by the employees to achieve what they want so be it as it would only be an advantage to them to make the management take their demands more seriously.
automatic annual rise of 1.8%
All the strike will do is damage public perception and cost more money in recovering the planned flying programme.
The strike will achieve nothing positive
Look like strike goes ahead as TCX loses a court challenge.
https://www.balpa.org/Media-Centre/P...-as-High-Court
https://www.balpa.org/Media-Centre/P...-as-High-Court
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Look like strike goes ahead as TCX loses a court challenge.
https://www.balpa.org/Media-Centre/P...-as-High-Court
https://www.balpa.org/Media-Centre/P...-as-High-Court
I do not doubt that in past few years we have all made sacrifices working for this Airline, and flightdeck deserve an increase along with the rest of us. But to demand such an increase and then risk the livelihood of the rest of the staff within the airline by striking, I feel you are being far to selfish.
We would all love what you are asking for but come on!
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Tcx fair play for standing your ground but let the world know!!! Tcx Facebook page does not show one comment of strike! The reasons you strike may be right or wrong, but the world has no idea, so why bother striking???? Shout out to the world! We support you!
If these stinking individuals don't like their pay and conditions then perhaps they should apply to Ryanair.
I'm sure MO'L would gladly offer them 1.8% annual increment plus pay rises (not)!
I'm frankly surprised that such annual increments exist anywhere these days, away from public sector frivolous organisation like the civil service and NHS.
I'm sure MO'L would gladly offer them 1.8% annual increment plus pay rises (not)!
I'm frankly surprised that such annual increments exist anywhere these days, away from public sector frivolous organisation like the civil service and NHS.
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If these stinking individuals don't like their pay and conditions then perhaps they should apply to Ryanair.
I'm sure MO'L would gladly offer them 1.8% annual increment plus pay rises (not)!
I'm frankly surprised that such annual increments exist anywhere these days, away from public sector frivolous organisation like the civil service and NHS.
I'm sure MO'L would gladly offer them 1.8% annual increment plus pay rises (not)!
I'm frankly surprised that such annual increments exist anywhere these days, away from public sector frivolous organisation like the civil service and NHS.
Oh, do trot along, back to the brexit thread...
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It is being reported that the dinosaur union demanded a payrise of 10.7%!
If true, then the dinosaurs can expect little sympathy from customers or shareholders, and not a lot of sympathy from other employees of the company.
The 1970s are over, boys. It's a whole new world now. Get over it.
The dinosaurs need to sit down and thrash out a sensible compromise which gives the crews a payrise somewhere between the CPI and the now discredited and quite obsolete RPI. Losses incurred by Company as a result of today's strike will require to be removed from the pay pot.
If true, then the dinosaurs can expect little sympathy from customers or shareholders, and not a lot of sympathy from other employees of the company.
The 1970s are over, boys. It's a whole new world now. Get over it.
The dinosaurs need to sit down and thrash out a sensible compromise which gives the crews a payrise somewhere between the CPI and the now discredited and quite obsolete RPI. Losses incurred by Company as a result of today's strike will require to be removed from the pay pot.
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If these stinking individuals don't like their pay and conditions then perhaps they should apply to Ryanair.
I'm sure MO'L would gladly offer them 1.8% annual increment plus pay rises (not)!
I'm frankly surprised that such annual increments exist anywhere these days, away from public sector frivolous organisation like the civil service and NHS.
I'm sure MO'L would gladly offer them 1.8% annual increment plus pay rises (not)!
I'm frankly surprised that such annual increments exist anywhere these days, away from public sector frivolous organisation like the civil service and NHS.
Yes, god forbid they try to make a stand against year on year real terms pay cuts, base outsourcing and other issues, set against a management cadre who do quite well for themselves regardless of performance. The absolute cheek!
Perhaps if the RYR pilots could form a union, then they might be more like MO'Ls inspiration Southwest, a company many aspire to join, and are happy to work for, rather than the armchair pundit's go-to company of choice to use as a stick to beat upstart pilots over the head with. "What, you want a uniform issued by the company? You'll want the moon on a stick next! Try working for RYR, see how far that attitude gets you..."
The "crab bucket" mentality in this country is shocking. It's why the rest of Europe outperforms us in many areas and for some reason since the Brexit vote last year, it's only got worse.
Good Luck Tommy C crew. Stand firm.
Perhaps if the RYR pilots could form a union, then they might be more like MO'Ls inspiration Southwest, a company many aspire to join, and are happy to work for, rather than the armchair pundit's go-to company of choice to use as a stick to beat upstart pilots over the head with. "What, you want a uniform issued by the company? You'll want the moon on a stick next! Try working for RYR, see how far that attitude gets you..."
The "crab bucket" mentality in this country is shocking. It's why the rest of Europe outperforms us in many areas and for some reason since the Brexit vote last year, it's only got worse.
Good Luck Tommy C crew. Stand firm.
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I read a feature somewhere that pilot was one of the few careers whose earnings had kept pace with inflation, although they were working harder. It may be that TC salaries have fallen behind, don't know.
One thing is certain. The bosses write their own paychecks.
One thing is certain. The bosses write their own paychecks.
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The bosses write their own paychecks.
Two wrongs don't make right though. Deliberately inconveniencing customers, colleagues and shareholders in a non-monopoly situation seldom ends well, even for the blackmailers who threaten strikes.
In the spirit of the 1970s the NUM thought that their monopoly situation meant that they could dictate terms to the shareholders and customers. That union is somewhat less powerful nowadays, thank gawd.
Tommy Cook is actually a good company and I'd hate to see it dragged under by blackmailers who apparently (if the 10.7% rise demand is true, which it may not be) see no limits to their power or to their ability to extort.
A much better way forward would be for both sides to negotiate a reasonable settlement somewhere between the CPI and RPI levels, preferably fixed for several years so that the business planners can plan the business. Extra perqs, such as freebie upgrades to unsold Y class seats, should be regarded as an add-on extra, not only for flight crew but also for all deadheading aircrew.
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I was suggesting that it was possible that TC salaries have fallen behind the industry norm at a time when traffic has been growing fast. It will be very expensive for management if pilots leave for better conditions elsewhere.