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Old 15th Dec 2006, 10:43
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Yep. Monarch have announced it on their website today- LTN-LCA. Flights operate M, T, W, Sat.
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so how many aircraft will Monarch have at each of their bases from the next summer season?
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Have they dropped any existing planned flights to operate this route?
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Old 15th Dec 2006, 14:43
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Based on 3 flights a week and not the announced 4, Tenerife was being reduced by 2 flights a week and Las Palmas by one flight a week.
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All LCA flights by A321, so looks as if flights are being reduced from other routes, remember they operated a Wed flight this summer as a charter (B757).
That gives only two more flights a week and the fourth during peak times.
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Old 15th Dec 2006, 21:03
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So what do you make of this then? http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5060438.html
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 09:24
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Same story in the Scotsman re EDI, with a 30 min change in LTN. What are Silverjet suggesting, pax use an easy shuttle from GLA & EDI to connect with the New York flight
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 10:55
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Silverjet are suggesting pax use an easy shuttle from GLA & EDI to connect with the New York flight
A great idea and as far as 'interlining' is concerned, something that LTN desperately lacks which is partly why so many of its services have in the past, failed after the initial six or-so months: there's never sufficient 'terminating' passengers. However, it's doubtful that this is true 'interlining' i.e. GLA and EDI pax will presumably have to collect all hold baggage and then check-in again. Given that Silverjet will be using a separate dedicated part of the terminal complex, it's doubtful that 30 minutes will be sufficient time to complete the procedure.
Even if 'interlining' is offered, the question then arises as to whether LTN's baggage handling equipment and procedures are able to cater for this type of sophisticated intra-terminal baggage transfer operation.

Still, if LTN wants to join the ranks of the elite 'big boys', then it's management also needs to start thinking and acting 'big'...
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Old 16th Dec 2006, 13:35
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Grrr

I thought that Luton management are acting 'big' now by banning wide bodies beyond Alpha 8 inbound to the apron (they now have to close down and be towed onto stand creating untold delays). I guess the 747 that parked on 15L a few years back was the variable geometry version!

Very odd, that Edinburgh SilverJet story?
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Old 17th Dec 2006, 01:30
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The airlines have to pay ATC route charges levied by the respective country overflown.
Sure, thanks for reminding me. The problem for the railways is that they have to pay for the tracks - even when they are not using them! Their cost of acquisiton for the new Eurostar line into St.Pancras has been horrendous with compulsory purchase and specialise tracks to be laid that, as I say, no one else can share.

It is ironic that much of the justification for Eurostar was the cost of travel from London to Paris and Brussels. Then along came the LoCos and now Eurostar is the expensive one.
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Old 18th Dec 2006, 05:47
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The loss of daily flights to Cyprus by Helios/Ajet, a 70% reduction in the IOM services, and reduced flights by ryanair, resulted in the first drop in terminal pax for many months. Flights were down 6.2% to 5662. Prov monthly figs for Nov show LTN had 635,930 pax, down 2.4% on Nov 05. The 12 month rolling figures were up 3.9% to 9.41m.
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Old 18th Dec 2006, 06:05
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Grrr

Were there more easyJet airframes based during Nov 2006 compared to Nov 2005, surely there were also more Wizz flights during the comparable months?
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Old 18th Dec 2006, 13:50
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Originally Posted by LTNman
There will allegedly be three flights a week to Lanaca but to operate those three flights two other existing services will be dropped with a W pattern aircraft introduced, meaning that 5 Monarch aircraft will fly into Luton on one day of the week.
Forgive me....

What's a W pattern?

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Old 18th Dec 2006, 16:25
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An example of the W

Luton - Paris - Birmingham - Paris to Luton.

SW
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Old 18th Dec 2006, 21:50
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Heard that the Police helicopter left Luton for the last time tonight. Also that harrods have pulled out of developing the hangar that the olice have just vacated, anybody heard if this is a fact and if so why ?
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Old 18th Dec 2006, 23:44
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Reduced pax

Yes Wizz and possibly EZY are up, but ZB are down on last winter- I keep looking and finding things missing (Faro s for example) and a 321 and a 320 have replaced two 757s and at least one a/c sits on the ground more. May not affect pax too badly as a friend flew to Faro last Xmas on lightly loaded ZB flights though. Also some TOM flights have gone - Monastir? is a second 757 comnig when ski flights start or are we having a winter with one 757 and the 733? And FCA seem to be doing less than last year. And FR Marracech and Malta muust mean fewer rotations and fewer pax.

Would expect Luton to be at risk of being down all winter. Maybe Silverjet will lift?
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Old 20th Dec 2006, 22:29
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
I understand that Ryanair achieved a 73% load factor for their route to Malta in November. Was this their first full month of operation? If it was, considering November is hardly a prime time for tourists to visit the island, not a bad start eh?
I flew the route for a five day get away at the end of November, both flights were very good sellers... On the return flight (MLA-LTN)on the 28th November, was only two spare seats on the aircraft.

There was probably more Maltese than Brits travelling on the flight. About 60% of Malta Airports traffic is UK flights and with Malta having very close links to the UK and a reasonably large Maltese population the route is a no brainer.

With there been no other LCC competition on the route, Ryanair are going to have no problems filling the planes. But dont expect many more new routes from MLA...

With Malta Airport having very high landing fees in comparison to other European airports, the Maltese governement decided to heavily subsidise airport fees in order to attract the LCC market to the island. But the government very cleverly only decided to offer subsidised routes to LCC's if the route did not duplicate a route already operated by Air Malta to protect their own interests. As Air Malta already operate to the London market from LHR, LGW and STN. Ryanair were only allowed to operate the route from LTN in order to receive the subsidy.
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Old 21st Dec 2006, 05:26
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
XL Airways UK (JN/London Gatwick) will as expected base two ex-Ajet B737-800s in Cyprus to replace flights previously operated by Ajet.
For the last few days there has been a daily XL flight at LTN from/to Larnaca. Is this just a charter over the Xmas period, to cover the void left by Helios/Ajet ?
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Old 21st Dec 2006, 06:14
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Grrr

My understanding was that XL would cover the peak period flights which should have been operated by Ajet and had really good bookings for the Xmas period. Flights would stop in the new year then resume in the spring.
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Old 22nd Dec 2006, 09:20
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Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
I thought that Luton management are acting 'big' now by banning wide bodies beyond Alpha 8 inbound to the apron (they now have to close down and be towed onto stand creating untold delays). I guess the 747 that parked on 15L a few years back was the variable geometry version!
Very odd, that Edinburgh SilverJet story?
So what is the thinking behind that decision then?
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