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Old 27th Jan 2008, 14:09
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Who owns Monarch as a matter of interest?
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Could be the other way around then ?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/richlis...,37757,00.html
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 14:10
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easyjet to acquire Monarch????

Just read a thread in 'Rumours' that rumours (obviously) are starting to float around that easy are looking to buy Monarchs scheduled side of the airline.

Not sure where the person works or is from who started the thread but seems like an interesting rumour.
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 14:17
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I would certainly hate to see Monarch disappear....of all the airlines I have done sub-service flying for in the past, the folks at Monarch are truly the most professional, by quite some measure, without a doubt.
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 15:28
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I have travelled with Monarch on scheduled services a few times.It has been most pleasant, and I hope nothing changes.
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 15:53
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That would REALLY put EZY into a nice cosy MAN position.

Personally, I hope this is complete rubbish as I like the ZB service compared to the EZY where you get treated very well (not that you don't with EZY!)
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 17:52
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I sincerely hope not.
Ezy may be many things to many people, but a good service it is not.
I recently flew to Sharm with GB, good leg room, free food, free IFE, free baggage allowance for scuba gear, priority check-in and boarding with kids.

same service now on Ezy, less leg room, no food, no IFE, reduced baggage allowance, no extra sporting baggage allowance - not even to buy - to one of the worlds most popular diving destinations , no sitting together guarantee with the kids, much worse flight times.
Ahh but at least its cheaper I hear you all say.
Well, no actually its not, it's more expensive than GB used to be, and hence much more expensive than the other offereings - TCX, XL, MON etc, which are positively full of frills compared with Ezy.

I sincerly hope that monarch stays, the world needs services where we are not all treated like cattle.
Some people like the Ezy product, but some of us like a choice, and choose a 'better' product even if it costs more (which it often doesn't)
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 18:16
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Makes sense if EZY are looking at continued expansion at LGW where Monarch have some prime time slots and operate to similar destinations with Airbus fleet. May give opportunity to do the same at MAN where Monarch have established scheduled base.
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 18:24
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I certainly hope not. We flew with Monarch to Lanzarote last month, and they were very good indeed. Spotless A321, cabin crew that looked and acted like professionals, and £20 extra for 34" seat pitch well worth it for a 4 hour flight.

We are definitely Monarch fans, and would hate to see it downgraded!
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 18:49
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I sure hope Monarch see the opportunity to add Las Palmas to their schedule flights now that GB have gone ...

Gran Canaria is still a really popular destination,and the GB flights were always full/busy in club.

There are still many who want a preferential service to this sunny island, and who would pay extra for better seats and some service on this longer european route , than suffer what ezy have to offer.

Ezy are fine for quick 1-2 hour hops,but not 4 hours
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 18:51
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recently flew to Sharm with GB, good leg room, free food, free IFE,

same service now on Ezy, less leg room, no food, no IFE,
Sorry, but nil comprende.....same a/c different service?
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 19:28
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oh blah blah blah blah, easyjet is s, easyjet is c, yes yes the same old story. Every airline is s when you look at it from this angle. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH. Next time break down the costs of your ticket, i think you'll find that on every airline such as BA, AA, KLM, SINGAPORE AIRLINES, MALAYSIA i could go on it is all included in your ticket.
The amount of people who slate easyjet and say they get nothing for free!! That's life. You tell me an airline that GIVES YOU FREE STUFF and i will be amazed.
Please don't get my wrong it has it faults but hey thats life!
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 19:29
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recently flew to Sharm with GB, good leg room, free food, free IFE,

same service now on Ezy, less leg room, no food, no IFE,


sorry, but since when Easy fly to Sharm ?????? as far as I know they don't fly there.
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 19:36
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I didn't say ezy was crap, and I know you get what you pay for. I don't beleive however that everybody wants cheap, cheap, cheap. Some of us are willing to pay a bit more for a better service.

However I don't beleive the lo-cost model works eveywhere, as evidenced by the longer GB routes, taken over by ezy. Ezy no-frills service, but not however best in class prices, any more.
I've not looked into all of the GB routes, however as a keen diver I keep an eye on sharm flight prices, and you can't escape the fact that ezy are near the top of the list for the price to go to sharm, and definately at the bottom of the list for whats included in that price.

If everyone only cared about price, we'd all fly ryanair, live in a slum, and drive hyundai craplets.
There's room for Ryanair and Ezy, and there's room for a better service on other carriers.
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 19:54
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can't see this happening. Think ezy have bitten off more than they thought they could stomach with the GB acquisition. Also, even if they were considering buying another airline, they almost certainly wouldn't be doing it before the end of the summer at the earliest. Can't logically see why ezy would seriously consider a bid for Monarch, as unlike GB, the fleet is varied to ay the least.

Sounds like a rumour from a GB person to me...
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 19:55
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oh blah blah blah blah, easyjet is s, easyjet is c, yes yes the same old story. Every airline is s when you look at it from this angle. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH. Next time break down the costs of your ticket, i think you'll find that on every airline such as BA, AA, KLM, SINGAPORE AIRLINES, MALAYSIA i could go on it is all included in your ticket.
The amount of people who slate easyjet and say they get nothing for free!! That's life. You tell me an airline that GIVES YOU FREE STUFF and i will be amazed.
Please don't get my wrong it has it faults but hey thats life
That's why ezy (GB) were/are still taking bookings at the full club fare for later on this year when the service will not exist. Watch "Watchdog" on the BBCi player and see an EZY exec squirm
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 20:06
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Don't worry, after the first season easy will drop the longer routes it has acquired with GB and redeploy the aircraft where they will better fit the LoCo business model. I don't think the 321 will be retained either - 210 passengers and their bags off and another 210 and their bags on in a 30 minute turn around? I don't think so. We often struggle to do it with 156 on the 319.

Monarch? Not likely at the moment, I think, with 2008 looking uncertain and hands full integrating GB. I rather think the high-priced help at Hangar 89 will just wait to see which competitors go to the wall in 08/09 and expand into the vacuum when the time is right. But what do I know? I'm only a pilot and the CEO has already reneged on one of his pronouncements when he decided to buy GB.
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 20:09
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Yes sunshine. It's called making money, nothing wrong with that, it's how we all stay in our jobs, clearly you know nothing about it,

FACT#1: EZY are keeping all the a/c so you can still book club class etc, as for the price well if the seats are there charge the poor b the same why not?!!!!

FACT #2: EZY are welcoming all GB crew to our network

FACT #3: EZY have no plans to repaint the GB a/c in the near future, the only thing that changes is that it will have a new boss

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Old 27th Jan 2008, 20:13
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Well if you're willing to pay for a 'better' service then do it and stop slagging EZY, RyanAir and all the other LoCo ops off, what a pointless chat this has been.
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Old 27th Jan 2008, 20:33
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Easy1 i don't think you took on board what some people where saying. They weren't slating EasyJet for it being cheap and with no frills service, its the fact EasyJet are more often than not MORE expensive than the full frills airlines, thats where the problem lies. With EasyJet taking over these routes its reducing the seats available to certain destinations along with all the frills such as extra leg room, large allowance for sport equipment etc.

There no question that on the short flights then EasyJet are more than acceptable to fly with. However on longer flights, 4 hrs plus, thats where people's endurance of the 29" non reclining seat reduces and full frills airlines are more favorable.

Take a chill pill mate!

p.s before you shoot me down in flames to i also work for the orange brigade.
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