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So why don't they tax a train journey from London to Edinburgh?
Or a coach journey from Glasgow to Manchester?
Or a ferry journey from Dover to Calais?
Or a car journey on 'Le Shuttle' from UK to France?
Or a Eurostar journey from London to Brussels?
Discrimination against airline travel, I say!
Could we put a case to the European Parliament as this unilateral tax is endangering our long-term employment?
PS Did you know that Virgin must charge £80 APD on a Premium Economy ticket?
Is that why the Blair family bought economy tickets with BA when they travelled London to Miami at Christmas? Knew full well that they would get upgraded and save a fortune in tax!
Absolutely outrageous.
Or a coach journey from Glasgow to Manchester?
Or a ferry journey from Dover to Calais?
Or a car journey on 'Le Shuttle' from UK to France?
Or a Eurostar journey from London to Brussels?
Discrimination against airline travel, I say!
Could we put a case to the European Parliament as this unilateral tax is endangering our long-term employment?
PS Did you know that Virgin must charge £80 APD on a Premium Economy ticket?
Is that why the Blair family bought economy tickets with BA when they travelled London to Miami at Christmas? Knew full well that they would get upgraded and save a fortune in tax!
Absolutely outrageous.
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I have been following the aviation and the environment debate with great interest, and was particularly interested in the SPURT adverts which were splashed across UK newspapers on Monday. They are funded by a British banker who received a massive pay off when he challenged the environmental policy of the bank he worked for, and is using the money to fuel various environmental campaigns. I am, of couse, concerned about the environment and the effect that climate change could have on the places and people I love to visit, but it's important to remember that flying is not the major cause, nor is it the solution (to quote MO'L), to climate change, and it's about time through letters to your MP, newspapers, environmental groups and anyone who will listen, to say that aviation is vital to our modern society.
Aviation plays too important a role in today's society for it to be suddenly wiped out by environmentalists, and governments know this. Commercial aviation contributes 1.6% of the emissions of greenhouse gases which are, according to scientists, linked to climate change, but at the same time creates just over 8% of the world's GDP. The industry is vital to the economies of many countries, particularly for creating new industries in developing countries. The problem is, aviation is accounting for that 1.6%, and is continuing to grow every year, indeed in Europe we're being told aviation is the fastest growing contributor to climate change, even though it is small now.
So what can be done? Well, I think a certain amount comes from technology. The industry has developed unimaginably in just 100 years of flight, and certainly in the last 25 years we've seen efficiency improve dramatically of airliners. Manufacturers, like car manufacturers, must year-on-year try to create more environmentally friendly aircraft. Richard Branson has begun his company Virgin Fuels, which is looking at alternative energies for aircraft, some of which could be in service, albeit on a small scale, within 10 years. There are operational things we can do now as well. The starting grid system proposed by Virgin for reducing engine running time at airports, move all airfield vehicles to alternative fuels, have all airport terminal buildings powered by renewable energy sources, make airlines show how much CO2 will be pumped out from your flight when you book with the option to carbon offset ... all targets the industry should be striving for, perhaps for 2012 when the emissions trading scheme comes into play.
It's difficult to predict the future of our (or any other) industry, but aviation is too important to disappear, and it's vital that we defend this industry for the huge benefits it brings, but that we also ensure that we minimise the negatives.
Aviation plays too important a role in today's society for it to be suddenly wiped out by environmentalists, and governments know this. Commercial aviation contributes 1.6% of the emissions of greenhouse gases which are, according to scientists, linked to climate change, but at the same time creates just over 8% of the world's GDP. The industry is vital to the economies of many countries, particularly for creating new industries in developing countries. The problem is, aviation is accounting for that 1.6%, and is continuing to grow every year, indeed in Europe we're being told aviation is the fastest growing contributor to climate change, even though it is small now.
So what can be done? Well, I think a certain amount comes from technology. The industry has developed unimaginably in just 100 years of flight, and certainly in the last 25 years we've seen efficiency improve dramatically of airliners. Manufacturers, like car manufacturers, must year-on-year try to create more environmentally friendly aircraft. Richard Branson has begun his company Virgin Fuels, which is looking at alternative energies for aircraft, some of which could be in service, albeit on a small scale, within 10 years. There are operational things we can do now as well. The starting grid system proposed by Virgin for reducing engine running time at airports, move all airfield vehicles to alternative fuels, have all airport terminal buildings powered by renewable energy sources, make airlines show how much CO2 will be pumped out from your flight when you book with the option to carbon offset ... all targets the industry should be striving for, perhaps for 2012 when the emissions trading scheme comes into play.
It's difficult to predict the future of our (or any other) industry, but aviation is too important to disappear, and it's vital that we defend this industry for the huge benefits it brings, but that we also ensure that we minimise the negatives.
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I agree,this new technology does come at a cost and is available but as per my previous post the government stopped grants to assist companies willing to make this change,it seems they talk the talk but don't want to pay for the walk...
I agree,this new technology does come at a cost and is available but as per my previous post the government stopped grants to assist companies willing to make this change,it seems they talk the talk but don't want to pay for the walk...
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Alicante and Palma
Saw this yesterday and just had to look a little deeper - Easyjet have definately responded to Ryanairs introdcution of ALC and PMI from Liverpool airport. Ryanair added 3wk services to both these routes about a week ago. From what I can see easy have responded with extra capacity on the same days that Ryanair added thier service.
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Ryanair just don't seem competitive on the LPL-PMI/ALC route.
I have done a small sample survey and easyJet seem to come out cheaper every time on the LPL-PMI route:
14 July 2007 - 7 Nights
easyJet = £141pp Rtn
Ryanair = £172pp Plus £7 Luggage Charge Rtn
21 August 2007 - 7 Nights
easyJet = £115pp Rtn
Ryanair = £132pp Plus £7 Luggage Charge Rtn
13 September 2007 - 7 Nights
easyJet = £97pp Rtn
Ryanair = £107pp Plus £7 Luggage Charge Rtn
Why on earth would anybody choose Ryanair when with easyJet they are getting better fares, they get 20kgs free luggage rather then paying for 15kg with Ryanair, free on-line check-in, proven priority boarding process and what, in my opinion, is a much more professional operation.
I flew easyJet last week for the first time in about 2 years and I was very impressed with them. Speedy Boarding is good value and works very well, they have good OTP, online check-in is great and the overall process of flying with them was indeed; fun and ‘easy’!
Are easyJet planning any future expansion from LPL?
Thomas_Cook_757-300
I have done a small sample survey and easyJet seem to come out cheaper every time on the LPL-PMI route:
14 July 2007 - 7 Nights
easyJet = £141pp Rtn
Ryanair = £172pp Plus £7 Luggage Charge Rtn
21 August 2007 - 7 Nights
easyJet = £115pp Rtn
Ryanair = £132pp Plus £7 Luggage Charge Rtn
13 September 2007 - 7 Nights
easyJet = £97pp Rtn
Ryanair = £107pp Plus £7 Luggage Charge Rtn
Why on earth would anybody choose Ryanair when with easyJet they are getting better fares, they get 20kgs free luggage rather then paying for 15kg with Ryanair, free on-line check-in, proven priority boarding process and what, in my opinion, is a much more professional operation.
I flew easyJet last week for the first time in about 2 years and I was very impressed with them. Speedy Boarding is good value and works very well, they have good OTP, online check-in is great and the overall process of flying with them was indeed; fun and ‘easy’!
Are easyJet planning any future expansion from LPL?
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I done the same but from STN-PMI-STN check out the results.
06Jun - 13Jun FR £39 inc tax (both 00.01p flights).
06Jun - 13Jun EZY £130 inc tax.
04JUl - 11Jul FR £89 inc tax.
04Jul - 11Jul EZY £229 inc tax.
08Aug - 15Aug FR £89 inc tax.
08Aug - 15Aug EZY £302inc tax.
done the same for LPL-PMI-LPL
09Jun - 16Jun FR £122 inc tax.
09Jun - 16Jun EZY £182 inc tax.
06Jun - 13Jun FR £39 inc tax (both 00.01p flights).
06Jun - 13Jun EZY £130 inc tax.
04JUl - 11Jul FR £89 inc tax.
04Jul - 11Jul EZY £229 inc tax.
08Aug - 15Aug FR £89 inc tax.
08Aug - 15Aug EZY £302inc tax.
done the same for LPL-PMI-LPL
09Jun - 16Jun FR £122 inc tax.
09Jun - 16Jun EZY £182 inc tax.
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"I flew easyJet last week for the first time in about 2 years and I was very impressed with them. Speedy Boarding is good value and works very well, they have good OTP, online check-in is great and the overall process of flying with them was indeed; fun and ‘easy’!
Are easyJet planning any future expansion from LPL?"
The EZY ground operation at LPL is now said to be one of the best in its network.
In order to fly all the routes as now listed in its schedules out of Liverpool they will need 9 aircraft. The ninth only flies at present the extra Alicante and Plama rotations. So either there is more routes to come or something will need to be cut back.
Are easyJet planning any future expansion from LPL?"
The EZY ground operation at LPL is now said to be one of the best in its network.
In order to fly all the routes as now listed in its schedules out of Liverpool they will need 9 aircraft. The ninth only flies at present the extra Alicante and Plama rotations. So either there is more routes to come or something will need to be cut back.
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Id like to see some easyjet expansion at east midlands, ryanair seem to be adding more and more desternations all the time. i think ryanair would do very well if they introduced a alicante and palma route at EMA because bmibaby and easyjet offer prices in excess of £70 alot of the time.
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Had to fly easyJet from Glasgow to London last month, chose Stansted but Gatwick would have done too. Checked in 2 hours before departure, boarding group A so near the front I thought. Have flown easy before and they were good but they use the old international pier at Glasgow and it was absolute pandemonium. I assume that the PA was offline because otherwise there was no excuse. It was only word of mouth that seperated the Stansted from the Gatwick from the Bristol from the rest!! Chaos. No organised boarding, no As Bs Cs then Ds. Simply shove in, hope you're in the right queue and shuffle.
Flight was fine but the facilities used at Glasgow are shocking!
Flight was fine but the facilities used at Glasgow are shocking!
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Do you understand how the low cost model works? The more seats sold the more the price goes up. The prices that you have seen suggest that FR have sold more seats than EZY on that route. I expect that the prices having been leap frogging each other since both companies put the routes on sale.
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Do you understand how the low cost model works? The more seats sold the more the price goes up. The prices that you have seen suggest that FR have sold more seats than EZY on that route. I expect that the prices having been leap frogging each other since both companies put the routes on sale.
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I deal with LCCs on a daily basis and so I am fully aware of how there fare basis works. However, you may note Ryanair's PMI and ALC routes only went on general release around 6th Feb whereas easyJet have been on sale since 3rd Dec . Ryanair's fares where not much different on the release date to what they are now.
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I deal with LCCs on a daily basis and so I am fully aware of how there fare basis works. However, you may note Ryanair's PMI and ALC routes only went on general release around 6th Feb whereas easyJet have been on sale since 3rd Dec . Ryanair's fares where not much different on the release date to what they are now.
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Easyjet new routes from Dortmund
Tomorrow press conference of Easyjet at Dortmund.
Will be annunced new routes.
Any idea?
I bet on an italian route.
One of these: VCE, CAG, OLB, NAP, PMO.
Will be annunced new routes.
Any idea?
I bet on an italian route.
One of these: VCE, CAG, OLB, NAP, PMO.
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No, not if thats all thats being announced.
If there is to be another based aircraft there must be more to come with more frequency on an existing route(s) and or more new routes.
If there is to be another based aircraft there must be more to come with more frequency on an existing route(s) and or more new routes.
Last edited by dwlpl; 23rd Feb 2007 at 13:32.