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Not a good move by Jet2 there. PRG passenger figures have been contracting this year (everyone's already been there).
I hope we're not about to see another situation like BCN a couple of years ago, where too much capacity will lead to OK WW pulling out.
It's unfortunate to see LS chasing after the same old destinations. Similar to the problem down at BHX, where incumbent airlines are often accused of failing to find new and interesting places to fly their planes.
I hope we're not about to see another situation like BCN a couple of years ago, where too much capacity will lead to OK WW pulling out.
It's unfortunate to see LS chasing after the same old destinations. Similar to the problem down at BHX, where incumbent airlines are often accused of failing to find new and interesting places to fly their planes.
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PRG
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Spot on about BHX, there has been some relief in the last few weeks with Rome, Lisbon Dubrovnik, Waterford and Marseille announced (although two out the five have been served before).
BHX - PRG load factors averaged between 70-80% all year before OK
pulled out. It had reasonable amounts of pax up front and 5-20 transfers per flight but yields killed it (I assume the front end were not all full fare
paying) and with Cork being or been pulled, Glasgow gone it could be bad news for the route.
Pete
Spot on about BHX, there has been some relief in the last few weeks with Rome, Lisbon Dubrovnik, Waterford and Marseille announced (although two out the five have been served before).
BHX - PRG load factors averaged between 70-80% all year before OK
pulled out. It had reasonable amounts of pax up front and 5-20 transfers per flight but yields killed it (I assume the front end were not all full fare
paying) and with Cork being or been pulled, Glasgow gone it could be bad news for the route.
Pete
Bit of a surprise there Jet 2 dropping MAN- Warsaw before it even starts !! Surely the Prague is already saturated?
I would have thought Munich, Vienna, Bilbao, Tallin or Riga would have been more interesting & challenging for Jet 2.
Can't see Sky Europe on the VIE, surely that would compete with their own Bratislava service. All their flights use Bratislava not Vienna.
I would have thought Munich, Vienna, Bilbao, Tallin or Riga would have been more interesting & challenging for Jet 2.
Can't see Sky Europe on the VIE, surely that would compete with their own Bratislava service. All their flights use Bratislava not Vienna.
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I'm disappointed about MAN-WAW because it was the one service I was planning on using next year. This route was primarily for Poles, like all UK - Polish routes, so was it a little premature to expect them to book so soon in advance? Flights to Spain during peak periods and school holidays get booked up very early, but not so VFR routes like to WAW and KRK.
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Yes Lisbon from BHX was a nice surprise although it was apparently on
the airports hit list.
You have also mentioned another one - Stockholm.
November CAA provisional stats: - Manchester Stockholm 8000 +
Birmingham - Stockholm Nil
I think flybe were rumoured to be looking at Scandinavia after the DUO
collapse and SAS pulling the Dash 8 from the Stockholm.
Pete
Yes Lisbon from BHX was a nice surprise although it was apparently on
the airports hit list.
You have also mentioned another one - Stockholm.
November CAA provisional stats: - Manchester Stockholm 8000 +
Birmingham - Stockholm Nil
I think flybe were rumoured to be looking at Scandinavia after the DUO
collapse and SAS pulling the Dash 8 from the Stockholm.
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Sky Europe today announced that they will base 2 aircraft at Vienna airport and operate 16 destinations from there.
However Manchester is not featured in this list of 16 destinations
However Manchester is not featured in this list of 16 destinations
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Charlie Roy - I'm not surprised that NE haven't included MAN from VIE because of the Bratislava service. It's an interesting development because VIE has so far been largely left behing by LCCs, and SkyEurope is usually reported to be struggling, so VIE could be a good place to open a hub.
I'm wondering at the moment whether BE will continue their inherited MAN-VIE route. It carried 1462 passengers in November on a daily ERJ service, which equates to a load factor of approx. 50%.
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I know they are using an MH 772 at the moment, but didn't know there were any 773s knocking around for lease.
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Vienna to be served thrice nicely - one hopes?
Charlie Roy;Sky Europe today announced that they will base 2 aircraft at Vienna airport and operate 16 destinations from there.
However Manchester is not featured in this list of 16 destinations :ouch
Possibly because Austrian Airlines have applied for 3 / day slots VIE-MAN from April 2007 with FK70 aircraft. Time will tell !?
Adola
However Manchester is not featured in this list of 16 destinations :ouch
Possibly because Austrian Airlines have applied for 3 / day slots VIE-MAN from April 2007 with FK70 aircraft. Time will tell !?
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Manch was one of the few fog free UK airports yesterday but it was good to see that they weren't letting their pax miss out of their share of misery by having an hour long queue at security in T1. The YTS girl telling people that having a magazine in a carrier bag constituted a second cabin bag and wasn't allowed enhanced the overall experience.
Twinning the place with Bombay would be unfair to Bombay's reputation.
Rant over - diving for cover.
Twinning the place with Bombay would be unfair to Bombay's reputation.
Rant over - diving for cover.
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Manch was one of the few fog free UK airports yesterday but it was good to see that they weren't letting their pax miss out of their share of misery by having an hour long queue at security in T1. The YTS girl telling people that having a magazine in a carrier bag constituted a second cabin bag and wasn't allowed enhanced the overall experience.
Twinning the place with Bombay would be unfair to Bombay's reputation.
Rant over - diving for cover.
Twinning the place with Bombay would be unfair to Bombay's reputation.
Rant over - diving for cover.
Fog due overnight and tomorrow I believe.
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Second airport in Manchester?
Could Manchester do with a second airport?
MAN is getting very busy, and cannot offer good enough rates to attract EZY or other LC airlines into the airport. Jet2 and BMIBaby are giving it a good go, but a second airport would provide the carriers with better turnarounds (if it was smaller) and better landing rates.
Glasgow, which attracts less traffic than Manchester, has two airports Glasgow International and Glasgow Prestwick. How can Glasgow sustain two airports, where as Manchester has to do with one?
Would be very pleased to hear thoughts.
MAN is getting very busy, and cannot offer good enough rates to attract EZY or other LC airlines into the airport. Jet2 and BMIBaby are giving it a good go, but a second airport would provide the carriers with better turnarounds (if it was smaller) and better landing rates.
Glasgow, which attracts less traffic than Manchester, has two airports Glasgow International and Glasgow Prestwick. How can Glasgow sustain two airports, where as Manchester has to do with one?
Would be very pleased to hear thoughts.