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This has yet to be brought in and I cannot see it being so in the way its been 'publicised'.
Then it is more likely than not to appear!
Just remember the extra fuel you will use to get to LPL in your car and then a possible extra £2 per pax as well for security reasons.
Sounds like a no brainer.
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..... not as 'publicised'.
Its (the Security Charge) got to provide something different from what they (the airport) provides to passengers now with the reason being the passenger has already paid the Security Charge within the air fare.
Well thats the explanation given me by a friend who works in Trading Standards.
Its (the Security Charge) got to provide something different from what they (the airport) provides to passengers now with the reason being the passenger has already paid the Security Charge within the air fare.
Well thats the explanation given me by a friend who works in Trading Standards.
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I read elsewhere that the machines are already installed, but not yet in use. An expensive mistake and egg on someone's face if it doesn't happen.
All this MAN v LPL bickering is pointless. LPL is bound to have a superior overall terminal as they had the benefit of starting from scratch a few years back, whilst MAN (in T1 at least) have to tweak what they have, that is many years older. T2 and T3 are bit less problematic for the same reason. The only way this would be solved would be if MAN copied LHR, and built a new terminal that would give sufficient extra capacity to allow T1 to be closed for a couple of years whilst it was knocked down and rebuilt - financial constraints make that unlikely.
I flew in and out of T1 last weekend, and it could be worse, a lot worse. As usual when travelling from Amsterdam I looked at both EZY and Jet2, compared prices and the relative convenience, and this time opted for MAN (I also use LPL sometimes). The ease of use of the 2 airports is not sufficiently different to push me towards one or the other; the ticket price difference and the distance from the 2 airports to my final destination is.
If both airports were popular to be interlined through eh route to a final destination then the rivalry might be bigger than in the minds of a few locals at each place, but the nature of their respective traffic means that this also is a minute consideration.
This is not to suggest that MAN is a beacon of good service or management, but spotters allied to both MAN and LPL do sometimes demonstrate a stunning ignorance of what matters to 99% of passengers!
All this MAN v LPL bickering is pointless. LPL is bound to have a superior overall terminal as they had the benefit of starting from scratch a few years back, whilst MAN (in T1 at least) have to tweak what they have, that is many years older. T2 and T3 are bit less problematic for the same reason. The only way this would be solved would be if MAN copied LHR, and built a new terminal that would give sufficient extra capacity to allow T1 to be closed for a couple of years whilst it was knocked down and rebuilt - financial constraints make that unlikely.
I flew in and out of T1 last weekend, and it could be worse, a lot worse. As usual when travelling from Amsterdam I looked at both EZY and Jet2, compared prices and the relative convenience, and this time opted for MAN (I also use LPL sometimes). The ease of use of the 2 airports is not sufficiently different to push me towards one or the other; the ticket price difference and the distance from the 2 airports to my final destination is.
If both airports were popular to be interlined through eh route to a final destination then the rivalry might be bigger than in the minds of a few locals at each place, but the nature of their respective traffic means that this also is a minute consideration.
This is not to suggest that MAN is a beacon of good service or management, but spotters allied to both MAN and LPL do sometimes demonstrate a stunning ignorance of what matters to 99% of passengers!
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MAN bigger on Low cost flights
Bagsgo I read your above post and you got me thinking. Yes Manchester airport has more LC flights but In my view the LOW Fares are much more widespread from LPL. Obviously thats because costs are lower, and there is FR and EZY on a big scale from LPL.
Bmibaby is borderline LCC in my view and if it were not classified as LCC would MAN still be a bigger LCC operations airport that LPL?
Jet2 sure are a good example ofLCC they will be leading the way at MAN for a long time to come I think!
Bmibaby is borderline LCC in my view and if it were not classified as LCC would MAN still be a bigger LCC operations airport that LPL?
Jet2 sure are a good example ofLCC they will be leading the way at MAN for a long time to come I think!
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Just read on another forum that ZB are set to announce some new routes out of MAN within the next couple of weeks. Any ideas as to what these might be? Will there be any surprises from Monarch here or will it be the usual bucket and spade Spanish destinations and, if so, what? They've pretty much got Spain covered now!
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MAN has had a monopoly on the region for years. Now the free market has allowed others to reach critical mass (LPL etc) who are providing an interesting alternative, better in some respects and worse in others, but alternatives nonetheless. MAN's figures are therefore slowing and plateauing, but the usual MAN-supporters-but-competition-deniers can't accept that new Reality. "Reality" I say. MAN must accept the Reality and adjust their performance and attitude to compete in the new Reality. That means customer service, usability, price, access, car parking, working infrastructure, delay management etc.
As others have already said Saudi are on the way, B777 three times a week I heard. Anyone know what time of day?
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Re Saudia
My contact reports that the Saudia request was for twice weekly B777 via Geneva.
In at 1030Z and out again 1230Z on a Monday and Friday.
I'll believe it when I see it !!
Anyone heard of Great Wall Cargo starting up ops from April with B747F?
What a Great Wall he's bangin' his head on ??!!
Night night
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In at 1030Z and out again 1230Z on a Monday and Friday.
I'll believe it when I see it !!
Anyone heard of Great Wall Cargo starting up ops from April with B747F?
What a Great Wall he's bangin' his head on ??!!Night night
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Looks like MAN wont be seeing the 777 from CO. They didnt get PVG, so they had 2 777's to spare, but man is staying 2x 757-200's! BRU get a 777, GVA gets a 767-400 and DUB goes from 2 757's (one via SNN) two one 762 direct, and one 757 via SNN!
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Bye Bye KA, hello more CX
I understand that Dragonair cease to operate under their own flight numbers with effect from 1st February. KA535/535 becomes CX039/040 - not 100pc certain of the new CX numbers.
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Anyway the KA 747's are being replaced by their 747-400's from the summer on that route.
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On the MAN LPL issue.
I would much rather fly from MAN with BA,LS,ZB or WW to Europe and NOT pay extra charges than fly for a 'penny' plus excessive extras with FR and EZY at LPL.
MAN has better connections across the globe, better demand and excellent facilities, especially on the internal flights.
For example:
VLM: Started with 5 times daily from LPL - now twice daily.
MAN will operate 12 times daily later this year - MAJOR DIFFERENCE!
Add the other carriers that fly to London from the MAN: BA,BMI,LS and AB. To become a great airport, the internal and international connections need to be in place and operating efficiently - LPL struggles in the domestic sector.
BLK offers THREE times more seats to LON than LPL! This shouldn't be happening!
Another example:
BE stated that a new base would be opened at LPL for many domestic flights. Now it operates weekend flights from Belfast.
If LPL could start to grab more Long Haul and Domestic routes, and put less effort into the European routes, then maybe they can be classed in the same league as MAN.
Long way to go for LPL to compare at all to MAN.
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I would much rather fly from MAN with BA,LS,ZB or WW to Europe and NOT pay extra charges than fly for a 'penny' plus excessive extras with FR and EZY at LPL.
MAN has better connections across the globe, better demand and excellent facilities, especially on the internal flights.
For example:
VLM: Started with 5 times daily from LPL - now twice daily.
MAN will operate 12 times daily later this year - MAJOR DIFFERENCE!
Add the other carriers that fly to London from the MAN: BA,BMI,LS and AB. To become a great airport, the internal and international connections need to be in place and operating efficiently - LPL struggles in the domestic sector.
BLK offers THREE times more seats to LON than LPL! This shouldn't be happening!
Another example:
BE stated that a new base would be opened at LPL for many domestic flights. Now it operates weekend flights from Belfast.
If LPL could start to grab more Long Haul and Domestic routes, and put less effort into the European routes, then maybe they can be classed in the same league as MAN.
Long way to go for LPL to compare at all to MAN.
Continued on: http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...56#post3080956
