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A total off 9 shamrocks a320s plus a csa nice to see northern ireland having an airport for a change any 1 got any nice pics off it, was a real sight all lined up around the international peer 
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Press release from flybe today confirming 12 flights per week from Belfast City to Cardiff. bmi recently announced an increase from 1 - 2 daily, passenger are bound to benefit in the short term but what will happen in the medium to long.
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Bmibaby cost base is much cheaper with lead in fares at £13.99 against Flybe at £19.99.In the long term the winner will be whoever has the most cash in the pot ala easyJet/flybe on routes to Bristol,Liverpool and Newcastle.
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Not necessarily.....
It's fair to say that Baby's lead in fare may be lower but this is nothing to do with their 'cost base'. It would be interesting to see just what sort of financial figures Baby is posting but they seem to keep such figures close to thier chest, unlike Flybe.
Whilst it is easy to cite markets such as LPL/BRS and NCL where Flybe competes with Easy and has reduced its flying, there are markets such as LGW, GLA and EDI where Flybe ares undoubtably competing very effectively against the 'orange one'.
Easy has a huge base at LPL and this has helped them keep passengers. With Flybe now operating 5 daily flights ex BHD to MAN daily, and along with the anticipated aquisition of BAConnect, Flybe's aspirations look to be centred on Manchester instead of LPL where I imagine greater yield exists.
The rivalry between BMIBaby and Flybe appears to be hotting up at present. With BMI encroaching on Flybe's patch in BHX with further based aircraft and Flybe building up MAN and now the announcement of BHDCWL, the launch of the full Flybe summer programme could be very interesting.
Not necessarily.....
It's fair to say that Baby's lead in fare may be lower but this is nothing to do with their 'cost base'. It would be interesting to see just what sort of financial figures Baby is posting but they seem to keep such figures close to thier chest, unlike Flybe.
Whilst it is easy to cite markets such as LPL/BRS and NCL where Flybe competes with Easy and has reduced its flying, there are markets such as LGW, GLA and EDI where Flybe ares undoubtably competing very effectively against the 'orange one'.
Easy has a huge base at LPL and this has helped them keep passengers. With Flybe now operating 5 daily flights ex BHD to MAN daily, and along with the anticipated aquisition of BAConnect, Flybe's aspirations look to be centred on Manchester instead of LPL where I imagine greater yield exists.
The rivalry between BMIBaby and Flybe appears to be hotting up at present. With BMI encroaching on Flybe's patch in BHX with further based aircraft and Flybe building up MAN and now the announcement of BHDCWL, the launch of the full Flybe summer programme could be very interesting.
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I just do not see the point in 2 Lcc's fighting it out on a low pax nos route. Flybe left Brs route, which has about 20k pax per month. Why then move in on Cwl, unless they think they can put Baby off completely. Baby will have to change the very silly summer times that they have at the moment, I think.
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Double Daily - BFS/BLK
Just seen Jet2 have put the BFS/LBA, BFS/BLK routes on sale for Summer07.
BFS/BLK - Operating 2xDaily on weeks days (Early Morning/Early Evening Departures) with 1 rotation on SAT/SUN.
BFS/LBA - Operating 2xDaily with a 3rd flight on Fridays and 2 Evening departures on a Sunday.
BLK route must be doing OK!
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BFS/BLK - Operating 2xDaily on weeks days (Early Morning/Early Evening Departures) with 1 rotation on SAT/SUN.
BFS/LBA - Operating 2xDaily with a 3rd flight on Fridays and 2 Evening departures on a Sunday.
BLK route must be doing OK!
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I think yure wrong on this one. Just had a girl going round BLK airport here today with a new leaflet pushing the 4x a day Belfast/IOM/ shuttle and a new second Sunday rotatiun to Aldergrove. The website has flights to BFS available right throu 2007.
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JobsaGoodun,easyJet are operating A319 on your said routes against Flybe Q400,s and are carrying upwards of 80% of slf on lgw/gla/edi routes.The caa stats are there for all to read.With the 2 daily Doncaster/Sheffield services are they going to start running from Jet2 as well ala lba.
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No Extended Opening Hours for BHD
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Delayed night flights facing £800 penalties
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Tuesday, December 12, 2006
An independent panel has recommended that a community charge of up to £800 a time be levied on flights breaching the night-time curfew at George Best Belfast City Airport.
The proposal was made in the report of a panel which convened an Examination in Public in June, details of which were published today by the Planning Service.
The key recommendations are:
Night-time curfew from 9.30pm to 6.30am to remain in force, but a community fund be set up to penalise delayed flights.
Cap on seats on offer per annum to be raised from 1.5 million to two million (inbound and outbound).
Restriction on aircraft movements to 45,000 in any 12-month period to remain unchanged.
Brian Ambrose, chief executive of City Airport, said they welcomed the findings of the panel, which were consistent with the Government White Paper of 2003.
"The findings provide a sound basis for moving towards a new planning agreement," he said.
"The challenge facing airports throughout the world is to manage the increased demand for air travel in an environmentally sensitive manner."
Environment Minister David Cairns said his officials would open discussions with the airport management following publication of the report.
No chance of a late BMI flight anymore!
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Delayed night flights facing £800 penalties
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An independent panel has recommended that a community charge of up to £800 a time be levied on flights breaching the night-time curfew at George Best Belfast City Airport.
The proposal was made in the report of a panel which convened an Examination in Public in June, details of which were published today by the Planning Service.
The key recommendations are:
Night-time curfew from 9.30pm to 6.30am to remain in force, but a community fund be set up to penalise delayed flights.
Cap on seats on offer per annum to be raised from 1.5 million to two million (inbound and outbound).
Restriction on aircraft movements to 45,000 in any 12-month period to remain unchanged.
Brian Ambrose, chief executive of City Airport, said they welcomed the findings of the panel, which were consistent with the Government White Paper of 2003.
"The findings provide a sound basis for moving towards a new planning agreement," he said.
"The challenge facing airports throughout the world is to manage the increased demand for air travel in an environmentally sensitive manner."
Environment Minister David Cairns said his officials would open discussions with the airport management following publication of the report.
No chance of a late BMI flight anymore!
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See from the Caa stats just posted that Bfs seems to have handled just over 5m pax in the rolling 12 months to Nov 06. I believe that this is the first time that Bfs has exceeded that total. Bhd, small decline again.
Where has all this talk with easy about new routes and increased frequencies went to?
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Where has all this talk with easy about new routes and increased frequencies went to?
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a little orange birdie told me that easy's supposed abundance of new routes was a knee-jerk reaction to Jet2 treading on their patch. I don't think they new what routes they were talking about themselves and nothing has been sanctioned by LTN (yet).
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Knee Jerk reaction to Jet2
I think the comment that Easyjet announced that 5 new routes were coming is in fact a polite warning to Jet2 to stay off EZY patch at BFS!
It will be interesting to see what goes on in terms of competition on the competing routes to Faro/Ibiza/Malaga. From memory those are the new routes for Jet2.
My wish for Christmas is that AerLingus would start up at Belfast International .A new base is badly needed.??
It will be interesting to see what goes on in terms of competition on the competing routes to Faro/Ibiza/Malaga. From memory those are the new routes for Jet2.
My wish for Christmas is that AerLingus would start up at Belfast International .A new base is badly needed.??
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From what i've heard all the new Jet2 routes are doing very well for bookings with many flights having over 100 pax booked already for next June/July. Jet2 got the head start as easyjet didn't start selling their routes until a month after jet2 announced the AGP/PMI routes.
Could be fun since Jet2 are operating a 757 on the AGP/PMI routes.
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Could be fun since Jet2 are operating a 757 on the AGP/PMI routes.
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I would also love to see EI go back to BFS. They had JFK service, but i think they could do well with services to Europe.
Belfast to: Warsaw, Riga, Madrid, Barcelona, Milan, Budapest, Hamburg/Frankfurt or Munich, and possibly a few more!
I think EI offers great fares, and good service. Most of those routes could also be operated in a W pattern from Cork or Dublin, so not many crew or a/c would need to be based at BFS!!!!!
COME ON AER LINGUS, COME BACK TO BELFAST!!!!
Belfast to: Warsaw, Riga, Madrid, Barcelona, Milan, Budapest, Hamburg/Frankfurt or Munich, and possibly a few more!
I think EI offers great fares, and good service. Most of those routes could also be operated in a W pattern from Cork or Dublin, so not many crew or a/c would need to be based at BFS!!!!!
COME ON AER LINGUS, COME BACK TO BELFAST!!!!
Right - so let me get this straight. Aer Lingus at Dublin who have to compete with Ryanair should open a new base up the road where they would have to compete with easyJet... is that just sadism or is that actually what you think wuould be a good plan?
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Aer Lingus would have no problem competing with Easyjet on fares. Easyjet have much higher fares than Ryanair. One of the reasons Easyjet failed on Gatwick-Cork was because their fares rivalled Aer Lingus, not Ryanair, without the added benefit of Heathrow. Aer Lingus have a headline fare for their UK routes of €1 plus taxes. When are Easyjet fares ever that low? Also if EI did return to Belfast, it would probably be from Belfast City (where they operated previously), and not Aldergrove, where Easyjet operate from.