EAST MIDLANDS - 3

[symphonyangel]

Had they done this first time around it would have been ok - just adding the city names in the small print beneath EMA - like Basel Mulhouse Freiburg. It's because they clearly made a mistake 2-3 years ago that loses them credibility, and to compound it they lost the brand of Robin Hood back then too.

[nema/robin hood]

Oh well - That's my username just b*ggered up!!!

As for the name, I LIKED the addition of 'Nottingham' but then again plain old 'East Mids' it will now be..............Now how do I go about changing my username without re-registering?

[CentreFix25]

Bizarre!. Every other airport's flight info board will read 'East Midlands', the 'Nottingham, Leicester, Derby' bit will get left out and forgot beacuse its too much bother to say or type.

[Mr Angry from Purley]

No Training unless the airline is "based". No more Virgin A340's, that makes me so angry i could throw the phone down

[wawkrk]

So, to compete with DSA, my names longer than your name.
Where will it all end ?

[Sausagehead]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry from Purley

No Training unless the airline is "based". No more Virgin A340's, that makes me so angry i could throw the phone down

I wonder what drove that decision

the cynic in me wonders if another "based" airline has been applying pressure on EMA management

[symphonyangel]

More likely is the pressure would be from the Derby and Leicester councils and not the airlines

[ALTSEL]

turn-COATES!


Suasagehead -

apparently the "No more Virgin A340 training" is a result of management pressure from the East Midlands Flying school - probably the longest based operator at Castle Donington aerodrome after Bm!!!

[EastMids]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry from Purley

No Training unless the airline is "based"

The actual wording is on page 6 of this section of the master plan:
http://www.eastmidlandsairport.com/d...ing-impact.pdf

It says no jet training by airlines that don't undertake regular operations from the airport from April 2007 (and no jet training on Saturday, as well as the existing ban on Sunday/Bank Holidays). Of the regular trainees that would seem to put a stop to the likes of Virgin and Spotty-M, but allows Baby, SleasyJet and the Tinkers etc to continue training in the week at least.

If anyone thinks that it was East Midlands Flying School that were responsible for stopping Virgin A340 training (when in fact there are relatively few occasions when those turn up anyway), then...

[NutLoose]

I think you will find the none based training was dropped simply due to complaints from the villages around the airport about the amount of training going on at the airport.....

After all a lot of the locals would start to wonder what the heck is a Virgin A340 doing flying round and round over your head disturbing your pimms and lemonade as you sit in the back garden when they do not operate from East Mids....

Also I would imagine most operators at the airport block book landings per quarter or similar, imagine the scenario of one of these airlines etc wanting to do circuit training and use some of their prepaid landings up to be told you cannot fly in the the circuit because an aircraft that does not operate from the airfield will be here doing circuits at that time..... no doubt that would also add to it.

[Local Variation]

The problem with Virgin in the circuit was due to the noise of the 4 engined jets doing orbits at both ends of the downwind leg on 27.

The EFATOs were also causing angst amongst drivers on the A453.

Now, how do we get rid of those pesky airlines..............

[Navy_Adversary]

Will the RAF be affected by the no circuit bashing for non EMA based aircraft?

[almost professional]

RAF do not tend to circuit bash-just instrument apps-but think it says restrictions on civil training

[bmibaby.com]

I was at the airport today, my first day working under the new title, and have been surprised at how quickly the new signage has gone up. The sign at the front of the terminal as well as the entrance sign has all changed with the "East Midlands Airport" name in big titles, with the three cities mentioned in smaller titles, then the slogan "Three Cities. One Airport." underneath. I know there has been criticism from those saying it is too much of an added expense, as well as Nottingham residents for "losing" their name from the airport, but the city's name is still there and I think it's a real boost for the residents of the East Midlands as a whole.

I heard that all other signage such as inside the terminal, all vehicles operating on site as well as public transport buses are all expected to have the new name used on them by February. Not sure how realistic that is, but I heard that that was the target, presumably to tie in with the new Ryanair flights.

I totally agree that it will be sad to stop seeing the virgin atlantic Airbus aircraft at the airport, though these low flying training flights are a real noise nuisance to those living or working under their routes, and think it's a small measure which will really go a long way in helping to improve community relations. As the airport becomes busier with based aircraft traffic, it doesn't seem unreasonable to want to minimise noise impact to local people, but also as previously mentioned to keep the runway and airspace free for this based traffic.

[almost professional]

Level of training both circuit and I/R is assesed daily by the Watch Sup to ensure that it does not impact on normal ops-and at present levels is unlikely to do so unless something else-such as taxyway closures-is thrown into the mix

[Lite]

Originally Posted by bmibaby.com

I was at the airport today, my first day working under the new title, and have been surprised at how quickly the new signage has gone up. The sign at the front of the terminal as well as the entrance sign has all changed with the "East Midlands Airport" name in big titles, with the three cities mentioned in smaller titles, then the slogan "Three Cities. One Airport." underneath. I heard that all other signage such as inside the terminal, all vehicles operating on site as well as public transport buses are all expected to have the new name used on them by February. Not sure how realistic that is, but I heard that that was the target, presumably to tie in with the new Ryanair flights.

I too was quite surprised at the speed in which the airport managed to change some of the signage, though it's true what you say in that the airport is wanting to move over to the new title as soon as possible, especially considering that the name change has been made effective immediately. I think it's asking quite a lot though for all branding to be EMA by February - given how much there is (with some things are still EMA branded anyway) but also the cost for external companies like KinchBus and NCT. They also have to consider changing all of the information at bus stops etc. serving routes for the airport - it's a hefty task for two months!

[bmibaby.com]

I didn't think much about the effects on the bus companies actually, but when you think about it, both the interior and exterior of the buses (at least on the airline shuttle and the Skylink services) are full of signage for "Nottingham East Midlands Airport" and then you have to change all promotional literature and timetables. Clearly a sudden change of airport name was well intentioned, but I must wonder how quickly this name change can be taken into effect for public transport providers.

As mentioned, any idea when we can see some firmed up plans for the terminal works? Everything at the moment appears to be well-founded speculation but little in the way of an official comment from the airport management themselves. From what I can decipher, it's a major overhaul of where Central Search will be and expanding the departure lounge, as well as working on the arrivals area and more landside shopping.

[UPS@EMA]

if Virgin want to use the airport for training purposes then all we need them to do is offer a 3 times weekly service to MCO or even daily / 6 times weekly to Dubai

Regards
Stu

[emaint2003]

Almost professional I have heard that JS has been mentioned as one of the ex MDs and I would guess the other one as GK (although he seems to be doing well for himself in the middle east somewhere). Would be very interesting if we went on our own away from MAG.

[UPS@EMA]

has the application gone in for the runway extension????

Regards

stu