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All depends on the routes surely. Pisa, Gerona, Katowice would be regarded by Jet2 with considerablely more interest than say Hahn, Wroclaw or some of the other baltic / Eastern European places.
Could be all academic anyway - apparantly there is the sum total of zero evidence of any press conference taking place this morning at LBA.
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Could be all academic anyway - apparantly there is the sum total of zero evidence of any press conference taking place this morning at LBA.
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682, not meaning to be pedantic but it's this afternoon.
To quote the email, (names, phone numbers & email addresses taken out)
''Tomorrow Thursday May 31, Ryanair, Europe's largest low fares airline, is holding a special News Conference at LBIA to announce exciting new developments at the airport. Ryanair's Deputy Sales & Marketing Manager UK will be at LBIA with full details of the developments.
DATE Thursday May 31
TIME 1400
PLACE Boardroom''
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To quote the email, (names, phone numbers & email addresses taken out)
''Tomorrow Thursday May 31, Ryanair, Europe's largest low fares airline, is holding a special News Conference at LBIA to announce exciting new developments at the airport. Ryanair's Deputy Sales & Marketing Manager UK will be at LBIA with full details of the developments.
DATE Thursday May 31
TIME 1400
PLACE Boardroom''
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Bhx-lba??
This was in Birmingham Post today maybe BHX-LBA is on the cards?
EU to clip Ryanair's wingsMay 31 2007
The European Commission, in a highly unusual move, is expected to reject Ryanair's proposed purchase of rival Irish airline Aer Lingus, sources familiar with the situation said yesterday.
The prohibition of Ryanair's unsolicited offer, originally valued at 1.48 billion euros (£1 billion), will be only the 20th in more than 3,000 cases reviewed by the European Union's executive arm since 1990, and the first since 2004.
The move comes as today Ryanair is expected to announce the start of a new domestic route from Birmingham International Airport - where it virtually abandoned services in favour of East Midlands Airport some years ago in a row over charges.
Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has said he would challenge the Commission in court if the deal was turned down. The decision runs to more than 300 pages in an effort to deal with issues that may end up in legal wrangling.
Commission competition spokesman Jonathan Todd declined to comment on the investigation until a final decision is taken.
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EU to clip Ryanair's wingsMay 31 2007
The European Commission, in a highly unusual move, is expected to reject Ryanair's proposed purchase of rival Irish airline Aer Lingus, sources familiar with the situation said yesterday.
The prohibition of Ryanair's unsolicited offer, originally valued at 1.48 billion euros (£1 billion), will be only the 20th in more than 3,000 cases reviewed by the European Union's executive arm since 1990, and the first since 2004.
The move comes as today Ryanair is expected to announce the start of a new domestic route from Birmingham International Airport - where it virtually abandoned services in favour of East Midlands Airport some years ago in a row over charges.
Ryanair chief executive Michael O'Leary has said he would challenge the Commission in court if the deal was turned down. The decision runs to more than 300 pages in an effort to deal with issues that may end up in legal wrangling.
Commission competition spokesman Jonathan Todd declined to comment on the investigation until a final decision is taken.
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Well, 3x weekly Shannon from LBA has been announced from November, Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.
Does anyone think the press conference listed above could be announcing a bit more?
Does anyone think the press conference listed above could be announcing a bit more?
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It seems not. I'm sure if the local media trooped up to LBA with appetites whetted about "exciting developments", there may have been a sense of anti-climax round about 14:05.
For me the most interesting thing about this is the message it sends about Ryanair and their relationship with the airport. General consensus for some time has been that the management were unwilling to meet the commercial terms demanded by Ryanair, despite interest from the airline in expanding services from LBA. 4 weeks to the day since ownership transferred to a company who are reliant on growth in passenger volume to make their investment work and hey presto.
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For me the most interesting thing about this is the message it sends about Ryanair and their relationship with the airport. General consensus for some time has been that the management were unwilling to meet the commercial terms demanded by Ryanair, despite interest from the airline in expanding services from LBA. 4 weeks to the day since ownership transferred to a company who are reliant on growth in passenger volume to make their investment work and hey presto.
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Absolutely agree 682.
I reckon the new owners have spoken to Ryanair and asked why they are not so interested in LBA. New broom kicks in.
I remember in the early days of Ryanair at LBA, the airline was talking about many possible new routes. But,I do remember EA was saying that they could not decide whether to go for high volume or high profits and quoted Liverpool as an example of an airport making the wrong decision.
Obviously the management opted for high profits and low numbers. I think time has shown that this was a mistake because you quickly reach your limit.High passenger figures seem to attract more and more airlines mainline included.Ryanair expect 310,000 pax from their 2 routes.
I reckon the new owners have spoken to Ryanair and asked why they are not so interested in LBA. New broom kicks in.
I remember in the early days of Ryanair at LBA, the airline was talking about many possible new routes. But,I do remember EA was saying that they could not decide whether to go for high volume or high profits and quoted Liverpool as an example of an airport making the wrong decision.
Obviously the management opted for high profits and low numbers. I think time has shown that this was a mistake because you quickly reach your limit.High passenger figures seem to attract more and more airlines mainline included.Ryanair expect 310,000 pax from their 2 routes.
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Delicate balancing act for New LBA....do you prejudice your home-grown loco by supping with the proverbial devil? It's probably no coincidence that Jet2 don't fly to DUB or SNN whilst Ryanair don't fly anywhere else from LBA (yet). If LBA undermined Jet2 and Ryanair replaced them, I don't think LBA would be left with much profit as they would get screwed to the floor by O'Leary. I hope they provide a long spoon in the LBA boardroom!
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I really can't see why Jet2 and Ryanair couldn't operate together at LBA, the same that way that Ryanair and easyJet do at LTN, LPL, BRS etc. I really hope with the new owners in place, that FR expand at LBA!
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For sure Jet2 would never have selected LBA if Ryanair had really been invited to exploit their full potential.So, I must admit in this case, every cloud has a silver lining.
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Delays toDAY
Anybody know the reason for all the delays and deparures if any today
the manx flt was 90mins late as a example this am mixture of all airlines not just J2
the manx flt was 90mins late as a example this am mixture of all airlines not just J2
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Yes....it was fog, a south easterly wind and on a METAR that I saw gave RVRs of 200m.
The bmi from Dalaman diverted to Teeside whilst the Flybe from SOU went to Doncaster. Fog lifted in time for the rest.
The bmi from Dalaman diverted to Teeside whilst the Flybe from SOU went to Doncaster. Fog lifted in time for the rest.
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No not only in lovely LEEDS, Cork was very bad on Saturday a freind was coming back on Ryanair and the fog meant most ac ended up in Shannon or Kerry. He ended up with a Eur150 taxi fare to Shannon to catch a flight 11 hours late to LPL. His destination from Cork was Stanstead! Another Ryanair customer that won't be flying Ryanair again. Aparently after cancelling the 0805 Sat flight when he finally got to the desk the earliest available flight ORK/LSS was Tuesday. Most passengers were faced with a trip to Dublin at their expense to get home. Lets not be too pleased Ryanair are expanding at LBA they do have previous for this kind of thing.
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Weather at LBIA
Hi Hooded,
What I was getting at was how unusual the fog / low cloud can be at Leeds. I know it can be similar at Cork. Ryanair may or may not expand at LBIA but one thing is almost sure they are going to expand. People, especially in Yorkshire want low fares and if they don't go to Leeds they will go elsewhere (passengers and airline). Every airline messes you about from time to time but I think it would be advantageous to having Ryanair offer flights similar to those announced at Bristol.
Regards,
App.
What I was getting at was how unusual the fog / low cloud can be at Leeds. I know it can be similar at Cork. Ryanair may or may not expand at LBIA but one thing is almost sure they are going to expand. People, especially in Yorkshire want low fares and if they don't go to Leeds they will go elsewhere (passengers and airline). Every airline messes you about from time to time but I think it would be advantageous to having Ryanair offer flights similar to those announced at Bristol.
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Just catching up on this thread. So, which one was the surprising annoucement that was predicted in advance? Ed leaving or Ryanair growing????
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PS - I guess KLM are still restriced to CAT1 at LBA if they can't get in with 1500m RVR. Will this sort of thing make Sir Graham spend a bit of the £70m on sorting out CAT2/3 ops once and for all
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PS - I guess KLM are still restriced to CAT1 at LBA if they can't get in with 1500m RVR. Will this sort of thing make Sir Graham spend a bit of the £70m on sorting out CAT2/3 ops once and for all
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Once upon a time KLM were happily shooting 32 in their Fokkers at Cat II (TDZ RVR 350m). bmi got themselves, if memory serves, from Cat I to Cat II on their Fokkers and ended up requiring a TDZ RVR of 300m.
Then something changed at KLM and they've been Cat I (550m) ever since.
In the meantime bmi changed eqpt on the LHR (mainly A319) - downgraded to Cat I, however have persisted with trials and the suchlike and have now attained Cat IIIa (200m) and its been used in anger. The bmi A320s (on the IT contract for Mytravel plc) remain Cat I at LBA though from what I can work out - suspect all those punters and all those bags aboard on landing make it a different kettle of fish vs a light A319.
Any news of J2 sorting the 757 out for Cat III at LBA? If not we might loose alot of 757s this winter!
Then something changed at KLM and they've been Cat I (550m) ever since.
In the meantime bmi changed eqpt on the LHR (mainly A319) - downgraded to Cat I, however have persisted with trials and the suchlike and have now attained Cat IIIa (200m) and its been used in anger. The bmi A320s (on the IT contract for Mytravel plc) remain Cat I at LBA though from what I can work out - suspect all those punters and all those bags aboard on landing make it a different kettle of fish vs a light A319.
Any news of J2 sorting the 757 out for Cat III at LBA? If not we might loose alot of 757s this winter!
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In the meantime bmi changed eqpt on the LHR (mainly A319) - downgraded to Cat I, however have persisted with trials and the suchlike and have now attained Cat IIIa (200m) and its been used in anger.
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It's Cat 3B and that's been used "in anger" too! (Only for A319 - others CAT1)