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Old 28th Oct 2006, 16:46
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There must be an element of truth in the rumours. Gate 9 is definately having an airbridge built and it is only full service scheduled airlines (probably with business class passengers) who choose to pay to use the facility. Gates are usually no-go areas for lo-cost carriers.

I have no knowledge of the airbridge for Gate 7 apart from what I have read on here.

If a Dubai service is to start next year I would expect an announcement soon...advance bookings are vitally important.
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Old 28th Oct 2006, 16:59
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You mean gate 26? its stand 9 they are presently building the airbridge on
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Old 28th Oct 2006, 17:29
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A number of very enthusiastic people posting their wishful thinking me thinks. Dubai daily, doubt it!. It was entioned on one of the earlier threads that JFK would be anounced at the end of the Summer, it didnt happen. With regard to the airbridge, my guess is the airbridge will be for ThomsonFly, NCL seem to be getting on really well with TOM and theyve just about got the stand 10 airbridge to themselves.
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Old 28th Oct 2006, 17:59
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New to this forum. I have been following it for months but never posted a thread. I can definately say that stand 7 will not be getting an airbridge after the one on stand 9 in complete. Max aircraft for stand 7 is B738 - A320 (group 2 if i'm not mistaken) and is usually used by locos!!!!!
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I think if we are all realistic weve got to admit that its now unlikely we will have New York for 2007. Based on how route announcments are normally made a New York route starting next May would already be on sale. Remember when AA intended to fly NCL - JFK those routes went on sale in the September for the following May.

This would leave NCL as the only top 10 airport in the UK without a link to New York.

On the subject of easyjet they have now announced that Nice will be back for next Summer but no mention was made of Berlin and Budapest, I take it weve lost these routes for good as far as easyjet are concerned.
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Old 28th Oct 2006, 20:58
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Stand 9 is the parkng position used by Monarch A330 a/c on transatlantic charters, only stand on the pier which can handle aircraft of this size. Even EUK 747 has parked there previously.

Stand 7 is at the top left of the pier and usually only sees EZY, FR, MYT etc with small narrow bodied airliners like 737 and A320 family. A very unlikely position for an airbridge.

TOM do have the greatest useage of the current airbridge (the other being the sole use of BA LHR/LGW shuttles). They pay to use the facility and prefer it. Other airlines do use it from time to time, like TCX and XLA, and occaisionally KL. Swissport use it 100%, as Servisair are not trained.

Should the new bridge on stand 9 be built for a long haul carrier, it must be full service, which severely limits the possibilities at NCL. Indeed this topic has been discussed in the past on this forum and airlines generally prefer steps, as it enables quicker turnarounds and greater access for service personnel. Especially true with loco carriers, which NCL is very popular with. Generally full service airlines that fly into NCL are the likes of AF, SN, LH, WF which use small regional jets and turboprops - aircraft not able to use jettys.

EK may start services, possibly not on a dily frequency though. As with rumours of further long haul scheduled services, the possibilities are limited, with really only NYC potentially viable, though outside possibles are TLV and India/Pakistan. Large communities of both nationalities in the NCL area.

Seemingly, mentioned a while ago, but Menzies handling are a dead cert for operation next summer as 3rd handling company.

Next few months promise to be interesting, rumours will come and go, but the definates will be revealed.....(I suspect we've not heard the last from Jet2!)
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[QUOTE=transwede;2934313]Generally full service airlines that fly into NCL are the likes of AF, SN, LH, WF which use small regional jets and turboprops - aircraft not able to use jettys.
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Erm, the BAe 146, Canadair RJ and Embraer 145 types most certainly can use airbridges. Chicago O'Hare, Memphis, Charlotte, Newark, San Francisco all do it hundreds of times a day. At the other end of the route you will see 146s routinely airbridged. With will you can also put an airbridge on an ATR-72 and Saab 340 (that I've seen) and therefore no reason why not on a Dash 8 either....

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Old 29th Oct 2006, 06:15
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Intresting debate about airbridge on stand 7, i dont think that carriers like FR/EZY would want to use an airbridge. While i doubt that one would be built just for the singluar based TOM737 next year.

What is the maximium size aircraft stand 7 can handle? Is it 757? (i know it normally only 737/320 size......but stand 9 most of the week had 757s, yet 747s can park there) If stand 7 is capable of taking 757 its possible the airbridge is being built for a NYC carrier .

Can anyone please point me in the direction of where i can find a diagram of the layout of all the stands at ncl? I've seen one in the past just cant find it anymore. Thanks for your help
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Old 29th Oct 2006, 07:09
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You can find the stand layout here

Once youve registered (free) the path is Publications/UK AIP/The UK AIP Package/Aerodrome Data/Aerodrome Specific.
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Old 29th Oct 2006, 16:03
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= (go egnt) What is the maximium size aircraft stand 7 can handle? Is it 757?
Maximum aircraft for stand 7 is a A320 - B738.

If there was an airbridge installed on stand 7 (which there wont be) you can kiss goodbye to easy jet parking on stand 6!!!!
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Old 29th Oct 2006, 22:25
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I always thought servisair were trained on air bridge as ive been on there a few times with MYT on the airbus
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Old 29th Oct 2006, 22:45
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I heard that servisair were trained on the airbridge, but due to a safety incident whilst using it they have stopped.
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Old 29th Oct 2006, 22:52
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They where used until a certain incident occured about 2yrs ago.
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Old 30th Oct 2006, 09:02
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Incident? What happened with Servisair and the airbridge? Having said that they must not be particularly worried about not being able to use airbridge, considering biggest customer is EZY. Do we know if anything is happening regarding Menzies?

First 6 months of summer punctuality results are out and NCL still performing well against other UK airports, abeilt with a slight increase in charter delays. Among the UK charter operators, heres how they stand at NCL:

1. Mytravel Airways
2. Thomas Cook Airlines
3. Thomsonfly
4. Excel Airways
5. Flyjet
6. Monarch Airlines

Quite surprised at the results, thought TOM would have been lower, judging by some of their delays and FJE a bit higher, they seem to have performed very well at NCL so far. Monarch doesn't shock me, they have had some bad delays. Would be interesting to see where the airlines are placed if all the foreign charter operators, which fly into the UK are included in the league tables!
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Someone souposidly got there foot run over
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Old 30th Oct 2006, 12:48
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Originally Posted by Marra123
I heard that servisair were trained on the airbridge, but due to a safety incident whilst using it they have stopped.
About two years ago, whilst retracting the airbridge, little did the operator know that someone was underneath out of view of the CCTV where they shouldn't have been. How his foot got ran over is beyond me, as an alarm sounds and if you somehow dont hear that, Im pretty sure it would knock you down before it got a chance to run you over!!

Said person now works for swissport!!
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Old 30th Oct 2006, 13:08
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Heard today that BA are pulling off NCL-LGW at the end of the winter season.

Sad, but seems to be the way things are going.
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Old 30th Oct 2006, 13:18
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Airline rumours at NCL

alot has been said in recent weeks regrading airlines coming to NCL. a lot of people think this is great but there are a few that think these will never happen and somebody is making them up. I will start a list hear of where these reports have started

Emirates - daily to Dubai
this was in the trade press (ie. Travel weekly & ttg) ages ago that they are talking to airports in the north of england about starting a service to Dubai. lots of people working at the airport have said that they have paid for the airbridge on start 9. these people are management and staff of different companies within the airport.

Qater Airways - Doha
Again this was in the trade press earier in the year that they were talking to NCL management yet nothing seems to have happened yet.

Delta Airlines - Somewhere in the US (New York)
Hoping to start services from NCL to the USA within 2 years. THat was again in the press when AA started selling New York.

These above if happen will be great.
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Old 30th Oct 2006, 13:25
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BA pulling out of NCL-LGW wont be a great loss.

rumours have it that easyjet are going to take over the route in march using A319 from the gatwick base.


Menzies will start handling may next year and rumours have it that they are after the following airlines

Easyjet and Jet2
Thomson and Thomas cook
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Old 30th Oct 2006, 13:34
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As for Delta, yes they are starting new routes to the UK on 757 aircraft, but in 2008 from what ive heard. They are now recieving 14 ex TWA 757 aircraft starting from next June, so too late for 07 summer season.
I do believe that NCL will be one of these routes, that will suposedly be announced in November, a year and a half in advance . Although thay have already announced Cleavland-Paris for 2008, so this may well happen, and keep an eye out

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