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Old 20th Apr 2017, 12:24
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Thomson Summer 2018

Here's what's planned

Corfu - 2 weekly (Monday & Friday)
Dalaman - 2 weekly (Monday & Thursday)
Faro - 2 weekly (Thursday & Sunday)
Fuerteventura - 1 weekly (Wednesday)
Heraklion - 1 weekly (Thursday)
Ibiza - 3 weekly (Wednesday, Friday & Saturday)
Kefalonia - 1 weekly (Sunday)
Kos - 1 weekly (Tuesday)
Larnaca - 1 weekly (Sunday)
Las Palmas - 1 weekly (Monday)
Mahon - 2 weekly (Monday & Friday)
Palma Mallorca - 3 weekly (Tuesday, Thursday & Saturday)
Paphos - 2 weekly (Wednesday & Saturday)
Rhodes - 2 weekly (Wednesday & Saturday)
Tenerife - 1 weekly (Friday)
Zakynthos - 1 weekly (Tuesday)


So apart from the loss of AYT and one less HER no real changes to the short-haul programme compared to this year.
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 12:42
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Jet2 Summer 2018 being put on sale at the minute. Possibly another aircraft for next year.
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 14:35
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Jet2.com Summer 2018

Looking a bit more encouraging than Thomson's release.

Increases to 8x based aircraft with several additional sectors flying in on ALC and PMI based aircraft.

No cancelled routes with a number of frequency increases.

Brings total so far from 96 up to 114 weekly departures with still a few gaps in the schedule, so new routes I dare say are imminent.
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 15:05
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8 aircraft is staggering!! That's probably more than Thomson and Thomas Cook base at Stansted and Luton combined!

I don't believe there was ever this big a gap in the market. It's pretty clear as to why TUI are making capacity cuts north of the river.
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 15:25
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Fantastic news....Jet2 to 8 a/c base in just one year of ops....must soon leapfrog into their 2nd largest base after that other MAG airport....& yes looks to be having a detrimental effect on sun route numbers @ neighbouring airports in Essex & Beds.....
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 17:28
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Originally Posted by FRatSTN View Post
Looks as if TOM have cancelled all long-haul for S18.

Remains 2 based aircraft but down to 26 weekly departures.

Cancelled Routes
Antalya
Cancun
Montego Bay
Orlando-Sanford

Frequency Cuts
Heraklion

Hardly much of a fight to Jet2!

I mentioned in a previous post 3848 a few weeks ago that TUI would not be flying long haul from STN in summer 2018 but it was disputed by others.
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 17:48
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I think maybe one person might have had a different view to that of yours. I think to the rest of us the fact that CUN had been dropped for Winter 17/18, we knew what was coming. Anyhow, if it makes you feel better, you were right.
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Old 20th Apr 2017, 18:10
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But at the time of my post 3848 I wasn't assuming that TUI would be ceasing long haul operations from STN for summer 2018 it I had actually read it before hand hence my post regarding it.

With CUN being withdrawn for Winter 17/18 I wasn't actually expecting any other long haul
destinations being cut a complete opposite actually as I expected CUN to be replaced by another long haul destination. When I had previously read what I had regarding a total withdrawal of long haul from STN I was shocked and now it has been officially confirmed.

And as you politely commented, I was right :-)
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 12:37
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Such a shame of the loss of TOM long haul after this summer.

I can understand why they wouldn't operate Cancun through the winter again as loads and yield have been rather poor on the route outside the summer.

I'm quite surprised they've abandoned long haul entirely as Orlando flights for this summer are almost full already and Montego Bay seems to be performing well sales wise. Both SFB and CUN were at 95%+ loads throughout the summer last year.

The demand is there but a complete lack of advertising and constant changes in the days of operations throughout the schedule I can imagine affected loads. TOM may want to focus on BHX and MAN where the crew and aircraft are based, as apposed to ferrying the aircraft down and back every week.

The reality is Jet2 will have more aircraft at Stansted than Thomson and Thomas Cook at Luton and Stansted combined next year. There is going to be over capacity on the short haul routes. I would of thought they would focus a bit more on long haul at STN because of this?

I'm sure there will be a new TOM short haul route announced with two gaps in the peak summer schedule to have the standard 4 flights a day schedule on two aircraft. Maybe Santorini, Mykonos, Preveza or Catania if they want a unserved STN route?

Thomas Cook short haul schedule for next year appears the same with two based aircraft between May and October with a 3rd based in July and August. Long haul appears to also been cut by 50% with just one long haul aircraft as apposed to two, although the second aircraft may yet to be sourced with the air tanker lease ending.
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 13:08
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There's no gaps in TOMs schedule for new routes unfortunately. Two flights a week do a W-pattern away from STN, one to HUY from PMI on a Tuesday and the other to BRS from FAO on a Sunday.
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 13:36
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Oh that is a shame. Suppose STN are lucky they haven't lost a entire aircraft as Luton has.
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 16:04
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Mentioned already in the trade press but not on here I believe....RYR bringing forward the start of 5 new STN routes from start of the Winter scheds as first proposed to the first week of September....comprising... Aalborg..Kiev..Lviv... Oradea & Pardubice...
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 16:08
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Originally Posted by southside bobby View Post
Fantastic news....Jet2 to 8 a/c base in just one year of ops....must soon leapfrog into their 2nd largest base after that other MAG airport...
LBA currently has 13 based aircraft.
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 18:10
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That's strange - I thought there were only grass strips north of STN/LTN!
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Old 21st Apr 2017, 18:10
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Stansted's looking a firm No.3 for Jet2.com in Summer 2018 behind Leeds/Bradford and Manchester
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 12:40
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Excellent...I guess that`s the sentiment I was pursuing...A great & solid start for Jet2.com @ STN & into a firm #3 base for them next year all in a comparatively short time scale....
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 12:54
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I know that Easyjet and Ryanair are much larger than Jet2 and either has the resources to win a price war against Jet2 if they want the fight, but what impact has Jet2 had on Easyjet/Ryanair ? It can't be just Thomas Cook and Thomson who are losing out with 7 or 8 new Jet2 aircraft flying beach routes

I can see direct competition on the following routes flown by Jet2 from Stansted (more if you include Luton):
Easyjet - Malaga, Palma de Mallorca, Dalaman, Dubrovnik, Geneva, Ibiza, Menorca, Split, Zakynthos
Ryanair - Alicante, Corfu, Faro, Fuerteventura, Girona, Gran Canaria, Ibiza, Lanzarote, Malaga, Palma de Mallorca, Paphos, Pula, Reus, Rhodes, Salzburg and Tenerife
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 13:29
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I don't think Jet2 so much compete with EasyJet / Ryanair as show them the size of a market that they're missing out on by the way they market themselves. They must surely be tempted to make a better than half-hearted attempt at entering Jet2's holiday market?

Competing would be predominantly an IT and marketing thing, backed by a few extra customer service staff that could be outsourced?
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 13:31
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It could well be the case Jet2.com are taking more than custom from just STN based services & airlines...Jet2.com are advertising extensively throughout the South & as STN is their only Southern base it perhaps stands to reason they are pulling from more than just the STN catchment...You may well need to look @ LTN which you bracketed & with not too much hope for further sun flight growth @ SEN I would expect....time will tell...
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 13:35
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By coincidence yesterday I had a look at easyJet prices on the affected routes from STN, LTN and SEN this summer to see if there was any visible impact from the new Jet2 operation at STN. I couldn't detect any to be honest and certainly STN prices looked pretty firm in comparison to LTN and SEN. Obviously I couldn't compare these with last year's prices and it could just be that LTN and SEN are equally affected. SEN is offering additional capacity to PMI this year so it should be possible to look at their actual pax numbers at the end of the summer to see if growth is proportionate to the increased capacity.

Edit: I posted before I saw southside bobby's post so maybe I have partly reflected his thoughts inadvertently.
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