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Old 21st Feb 2013, 16:33
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an indication of things to come?

MAG's Andrew Harrison set to become new Stansted boss - Airport World News Online
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 08:14
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Sale is complete. Website has now got the MAG logo but still the old BAA design at the moment.

Sad news of course is the Ryanair cut backs although still yet to see any changes on the booking system as of yet. I hope MAG will be able to recover this last minute loss promptly.

A few bits and pieces below:

Ferrovial/Baa Hikes Stansted Fees By 6% From April 2013 In A?

New owner sets out Stansted’s growth plan - FT.com

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Old 1st Mar 2013, 10:55
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Sad news of course is the Ryanair cut backs
Serous? There will only be a 4% cut back as they say they will cut 9% but planned to grow 5%. I bet there will be zero affect on traffic as Ryanair's bark is worse that there bite.
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 11:07
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The new owners of Stansted today launched a battle of the skies as they vowed to take passengers from Heathrow and Gatwick after competing the £1.5bn purchase of the Essex airport.

They promised to take the airport, traditionally a stronghold of budget airlines, into the premier league with flights to 40 new long-haul destinations including the US, Caribbean and the Middle East.

Owners Manchester Airport Group (MAG) pledged to double annual passenger numbers 35 million, build new stands for the A380 superjumbos and spend £40m on new shops.

By 2018 they aim to boost annual passenger numbers by 5.5m to almost 23 million per year. There will be an extra 40 destinations, mainly long-haul flights to the US and the Caribbean and the Gulf. Emirates, Qatar, Etihad, Singapore Airlines, Air France, KLM and Virgin are all set to fly out of Stansted which has been traditionally dominated by budget airlines Ryanair and easyJet.

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Old 1st Mar 2013, 11:44
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By 2018 they aim to boost annual passenger numbers by 5.5m to almost 23 million per year. There will be an extra 40 destinations, mainly long-haul flights to the US and the Caribbean and the Gulf. Emirates, Qatar, Etihad, Singapore Airlines, Air France, KLM and Virgin are all set to fly out of Stansted which has been traditionally dominated by budget airlines Ryanair and easyJet.
Can you link to where you are getting this BS from please? This is SO far off the planet I need a source. A380s and long haul LGW can only dream of in under *five* years? Someone's been smoking something. This is a fanboys's wet dream not a serious proposition to take to market in such a timescale. The only thing missing is Concorde. If it's the (pay to read) FT link, they should know better.

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Old 1st Mar 2013, 12:09
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A simple Google search shows this comes from that highly reputable journal, the Evening Standard (!):
Manchester Airport Group seals Stansted airport takeover deal - Transport - News - London Evening Standard
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 12:29
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It's good manners to always quote one's sources.....
Stansted takeover: Manchester Airport Group pledge sky battle as they seal £1.5bn deal - Transport - News - London Evening Standard
From the ever excitable Charlie Cornish.
“If we get the right level of customer experience and the right product, which is the right airlines flying the right planes at the right price, we will start to move volume around London. Some will always go to Heathrow and Gatwick but if it’s a strong product we hope to take volume not just from the north but the south”
That "IF" is big enough to be seen from space. How is GIP's plan at LGW going to do exactly the same? They've lost Korean, US Airways, Hong Kong Airlines and Delta in the space of a year, yet MAG is going to do all of the above in a five year timescale. Not being funny but that is so misleading there's a case for it being blatantly dishonest, unless he actually thinks he can achieve this in which case he's an amateur and out of his depth.
Charlie Cornish - United Kingdom | LinkedIn
This bloke's background is Thames Water where we have enough leaks to refloat Belgium, his aviation background appears limited. Anyway back to A380s at Stansted

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Old 1st Mar 2013, 13:32
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Good manners

Sorry the source was from the London evening standard.
I agree it is a bit of a tall order but at least they have an aim
Something BAA were lacking .
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 13:41
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I can just see funding these plans will keep Ryanair happy at STN....but I suppose they have nowhere else to go in London so they will just have to put up with it.
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 15:33
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Dream on Mr Cornish (MAG CEO) - does he honestly think airlines like Emirates etc are going to fly from Stansted - you have only got to look at Gatwick where long haul only waits for slots for Heathrow - except for some Caribbean and bucket and spade services. Well it sounds good but absolutely no chance!
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 16:31
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MAG might be the management team but those Ausi Speculators will be looking for quick results for their money one imagines.

These guys aren't know nothing amateur local councillors !
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Old 1st Mar 2013, 21:17
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Grrr

MAG calculates that 50 million people live within two hours’ drive of the Essex airport.

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Stansted takeover: Manchester Airport Group pledge sky battle as they seal £1.5bn deal - Transport - News - London Evening Standard

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Old 2nd Mar 2013, 09:08
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BBC News - Ryanair threatens to cut Stansted Airport flights

Excellent news for Stansted
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Old 2nd Mar 2013, 09:16
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there will be a lot of posturing by Ryanair in the next few months.... dont believe everything you hear.

Ryanair have no new aircraft on order so they need to think about where they put theor existing fleet to make the most money and to fulfill the commitments thay have made to airports.
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Old 2nd Mar 2013, 13:20
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As a resident of Stockport, a rate payer and therefore a part owner of MAG I am more than a bit concerned that within days of MAG's acquisition of STN their largest customer at STN makes an announcement about reduction of service.

Ryanair's overly dominant position as a customer of STN was often cited as a reason not to be interested in buying STN.

Ok we all know about the high profile posturing that Ryan's get involved in in order to exert pressure and reduce costs, but for this to happen before the ink is even dry on the MAG acquisition is a real concern for me.

I want to see MAG prosper but I'm not sure that the STN deal was a good deal, especially now that now that they are in bed with a financial aprtner who will no doubt be looking for a quick return ... at any cost.

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Old 2nd Mar 2013, 15:38
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I think FR have reacted to BAAs last move which was a strange one and up charges days before the takeover happened.
I am also from Stockport avturboy.


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Old 2nd Mar 2013, 15:59
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The Ryanair cuts are probably a fairly short term issue. Can't see MAG keeping the charges as high as they are for any length of time if they really want to grow passenger traffic.

They've built bridges with Ryanair at Manchester (not litterally otherwise FR will be straight back out again), so I'm sure that they can entice Ryanair in some way or another, unless of course they want Ryanair to cut back to help get other airlines in???
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Old 2nd Mar 2013, 20:52
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The issue is that Ryanair have no-where else to go. Yes, they can cut a few movements from STN, but the only economic hub that they have in SE England is STN, and there is nowhere else with sufficient capacity where they can move to.
Like it or not, Ryanair and STN are stuck with each other - but at least STN/MAG have the possibility of attracting more customers, whereas Ryanair can posture, but cannot easily move, say 50% of their flights to another airport.
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 05:26
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Like it or not, Ryanair and STN are stuck with each other
You're probably right, but once the toys have been picked up, I wouldn't be surprised if FR start sniffing around Southend and are probably looking at increasing flights out of LTN to compensate.

MAG calculates that 50 million people live within two hours’ drive of the Essex airport.
Again with a UK population of 59.8 million (at the last census) then all carriers should be scrambling to operate from there
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Old 3rd Mar 2013, 06:29
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You're probably right, but once the toys have been picked up, I wouldn't be surprised if FR start sniffing around Southend and are probably looking at increasing flights out of LTN to compensate.

Don't think Southend will ever be an option until Ryanair start to replace their fleet due to runway limitations.
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