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Old 19th Sep 2006, 03:07
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From todays Glasgow Herald -
http://www.theherald.co.uk/business/70318.html
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Old 19th Sep 2006, 09:01
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3 steps back or 1 forward?

I can only imagine what is going through all the employee's heads right now . Now would be an ideal time for Ba Connect to really begin the onslaught!
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Old 19th Sep 2006, 09:31
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Souter is disposing of a lot recently. A few weeks ago he sold all of the Stagecoach London bus operations to the Australian MacQuerie bank corp.
Cashing in...!!
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Cashing In? Don't think so

He may be cashing in on some of his investments but I get the impression he took quite a bath on ScotAirways/Suckling. Not that he can't afford it. The concerned employees should be grateful he kept it afloat for the past few years. As the article says, its not really big enough for him to devote the attention it deserves.
I have no figures here but I suspect the London Stagecoach operations would be many times the value of the airline.
Hopefully ScotAirways/Suckling will be able to live long and prosper.
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Nice 1 Blue foot

I bet she would be wearing that classy grey suit that we have all never seen before (not!!).

Seriously though I'm not sure this was the best direction the company could have went but time will tell .
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Perhaps they should ask some of those rich footballers they fly around at the weekend to invest??
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Old 19th Sep 2006, 21:42
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What makes me laugh is that an airline named after Scotland, with a Scottish tartan logo, flies between SOUTHampton and Amsterdam!!!

They over - charge people and provide a service that is prone to weather disruption and too many hand luggage restrictions because of the aircraft type

They used to provide a niche service from Cambridge. They should have stuck to niche routes that wouldn't see competition.

Don't give them long to be honest... (But don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing they go under)
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Old 19th Sep 2006, 23:36
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I wish them luck at SOU. Now that Flybe are on the SOU/AMS route, at a fraction of the cost of SAY (unless you decide to travel about 2 hours before your flight) how can they survive?

Apparently BMI threw their rattle out of the pram and ditched SOU/AMS before starting the service, due to Flybe also starting, with rumours of 10K+ seats sold by BMI, where are the PAX going, I doubt if it will be Scot Airways.
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Old 20th Sep 2006, 01:37
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Originally Posted by TCAS FAN View Post
Apparently BMI threw their rattle out of the pram and ditched SOU/AMS before starting the service, due to Flybe also starting, with rumours of 10K+ seats sold by BMI, where are the PAX going, I doubt if it will be Scot Airways.

Think Bmi may have thrown the rattle out of the pram when Scot Airways got slots to operate a 3 times a day M-F to Leeds Bradford from Edinburgh, and once on Sundays.
That route from Scot Airways doesn't seem to be starting now. Sounds like a deal between the two.
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Old 20th Sep 2006, 16:17
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Eh????

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Who rattled your cage?
"What makes me laugh is that an airline named after Scotland, with a Scottish tartan logo, flies between SOUTHampton and Amsterdam!!!"

Why does that make you laugh exactly? How about an Irish airline, Irish reg, American built aeroplanes, flown by non Irish crew who are based in LONDON Stansted, in and out of Prestwick or Edinburgh, which is in SCOTLAND by the way!!! That's called cabotage BTW.
As for ScotAirways, well as Scotland is part of the UK then ScotAirways is classed as a BRITISH company. The name or colour scheme is of no bearing on anything, so laugh or not, they can fly wherever they like. See "Air Scotland/Greece Airways!" Does "British" Airways make you laugh too when they only have bases in LHR and LGW?? Shouldn't it be London Airways?
Personally I'd love to see Scotland as a seperate country with our own reg and all our aeroplanes painted in tartan. Then we could be left alone to our Haggis and Irn Bru! (But that is for another thread!)
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Well said Eff Oh! Couldn't have said it better myself - except it's Diet Irn Bru nowadays!!
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Old 20th Sep 2006, 18:57
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Well said Eff oh.

Also lets not forget British Caledonian - Tartan Uniforms, Scottish names for aircraft, Lion Rampart on the tails oh and where was it based London Gatwick.
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Air Berlin between Stansted and Belfast City too. Whatever next
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Donaldson International....thistle on the tail...Gatwick based.
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Suckling/Scot Air

Quick heads up for those Ppruners who can get BBC4 - at 21.00 next Thursday (16/11/06). The original programme about the setting up of Suckling from 1990, with an update...
"9:00 pm 40 Minutes On
Darling Let's Set Up an Airline: In 1990 40 Minutes told the surprising story of a husband and wife team who started the UK's smallest international airline, how did they get on?"
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Does anyone have any ideas what is going on at Scot Airways. The airline is operating 7 aircraft and only has 3 routes in its timetable

I was visiting LCY in July and 4 of there aircraft were parked idol at the airport, surely this must be costing them a fortune. The Sou/Ams route is now in competition with BE and it must be losing another fortune/

Since the Suckling family have taken back control of the airline, that tells me that things are not so good anybody got any comments. I would be surprised if the company is around in 6 months.

Itís a pity they had not done a VLM type operation at LCY and become truly a good little profitable niche operator.
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Old 19th Nov 2006, 08:16
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The writing is on the wall regards Scotty I am afraid....

There was an article in a newspaper recently which said they owe Souter 2.5 Million pounds! Even allowing for journo's it does not look good.

Could have been a great little airline, but its come to this, probably will be bought out by another, maybe VLM or City Star.
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Old 19th Nov 2006, 08:27
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Originally Posted by EI-BUD View Post
Does anyone have any ideas what is going on at Scot Airways. The airline is operating 7 aircraft and only has 3 routes in its timetable.
3 aircraft needed for Edinburgh. One for Dundee. One for Amsterdam. One or two on charters. What's wrong with that ?

Scot have made a good niche in 30-seat charters (football teams etc), there are not that many operators in this category. In recent times I've noticed them in Dublin, Liverpool, and other places.

You can see a couple at London City midday but they are gone by the evening rush, plus it's a place they do their charters from. That's how the traffic on these routes is.
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On any weekday morning at 8 o clock you will find 2 aircraft heading north to EDI. 3 aircraft heading south to LCY, One from DND and two from EDI and 1 heading to AMS. All very full with the possible exception of the AMS at the moment. Leaving 1 aircreft spare for backup, charters, maintenance or whatever.
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Old 19th Nov 2006, 12:26
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Be ready with your facts before you write a company off into insolvency.

Always busy morning and evening from LCY dues peak business periods. Usually one , max two aircraft parked during the mid day period when LCY is very quiet. NEVER seen four doing nought so I suspect two were on a long or tech delayed turnaround.

Not a loco by any means.
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