Ryanair - 2

[EI896]

Originally Posted by Charlie Roy

Wow, merci for that juicy titbit of news Baron Rouge.

FR at LYS (France's 4th busiest Airport after CDG ORY NCE)
That would be great!

I thought that Toulouse was the 4th busiest Airport in France?

[shamrock7seal]

rumours for the BOH operation:

PIK to rise to 12 weekly flights (twice daily) from next spring in response to BA connect withdrawl from SOU-GLA and Flybe increasing flights from 4 to 6 daily.

If easyJet launch Milan Malpensa (as rumoured) Ryanair will immediately start Milan Bergamo.

Marseille, Stockholm, Murcia and Rome to be launched during 2007 and 2008.

[Charlie Roy]

Originally Posted by EI896

I thought that Toulouse was the 4th busiest Airport in France?

In 2005 Lyon was in 4th position behind CDG ORY and NCE with 6.5 million passengers, Marseille was in 5th position with 5.8 million passengers and Toulouse came 6th with 5.6 million passengers.

[Charlie Roy]

BOH

Originally Posted by shamrock7seal

PIK to rise to 12 weekly flights (twice daily) from next spring in response to BA connect withdrawl from SOU-GLA and Flybe increasing flights from 4 to 6 daily.

Nice

Originally Posted by shamrock7seal

If easyJet launch Milan Malpensa (as rumoured) Ryanair will immediately start Milan Bergamo.

Ah ha, that could be why Ryanair have not yet finalised their winter timetable for Milan, with 21 weekly flights currently unaccounted for...

Originally Posted by shamrock7seal

Marseille, Stockholm, Murcia and Rome to be launched during 2007 and 2008.

Interesting to see Ryanair are still thinking of Stockholm in its plans. Do they expect the pending aviation tax to die a quick death? Or shall they nonetheless expand Swedish operations even if they don't get their way on this enviromental tax? ...

And so, we're are not talking about a Ryanair base at BOH? Simply other bases linking to it? If that's the case, looks like Murcia is really on the cards to become a base. Unless of course the aircraft used for MJV - BOH would be doing a W coming from a different base.

[garthicus]

That number you were looking for....

On Friday the palace of Westminster – seat of the UK government – closed its doors for the annual summer break and it may be that MPs had sun, sea, sand and those summer-holiday flights on the mind.

Buried beneath the traditional rush of early-day motions filed before the house on the last day of parliament (timing surely no coincidence) was one regarding Ryanair’s complaints record in which it was stated that MPs had been lobbied by frustrated Ryanair passengers who have found it impossible to get hold of the airline’s elusive and expensive complaints desk. MPs obviously thought about this subject for quite some time before coming up with the ingenious solution of naming and shaming Caroline Green, head of customer services at Ryanair. The early-morning motion read:

“She can be contacted at [email protected] and the geographical telephone number for the company’s head office in Dublin is 00 353 1812 1212, which is cheaper than its high tariff 0871 number.”

To table an early-morning motion in the UK parliament costs around Ł300. One MP is quoted as saying: “Seldom, I feel, has taxpayers’ money been so splendidly spent.” Clearly, he is a Ryanair customer too!

[shamrock7seal]

I should have mentioned that Stockholm is only on the assumption that they can reach an agreement on fees and charges.

as for Murcia, it is not a base consideration in the short term but BOH-MJV is thought to be a potentially lucratrive route.

BOH-GRO might possibly see an extra one or two flights per week by 2008 (meaning ten flights per week in the summer)

[cessna l plate]

Moeny well spent I agree. But how long before that number changes??

[MyData]

From SayNoTo0870.com (a great site for finding 'real' numbers and 0800 alternatives)

Company Name - 0870 / 0871 - Geographical - Other Info
RyanAir - 0871 2460000 - [phone] - Head Office, Dublin, Eire; Fax: [phone];
RyanAir - 0906 2705656 - [phone] - Bookings, Eire;
RyanAir - 0906 2705656 - [phone] - Customer services menu - Eire;
RyanAir - 0906 2705656 - [phone] - Customer services; Fax: [phone] - Eire;
Ryanairhotel.com - 0871 2460004 - [phone] - Cheaper to call direct to Eire;
Stansted Airport (STN) - 0870 0000303 - 01279 662966 - RyanAir Baggage Enquiries only; ask 'Left Luggage' for a number for other Airlines


Let them change the number - its geo equivalent will soon appear on-line somewhere.

[airhumberside]

FR used to do BHX-Murcia with a DUB based aircraft so something similar could happen at BOH

[Charlie Roy]

Originally Posted by EI896

I'm surprised by Ryanair releasing nothing and then people going around with rumours from no-where

Between the day Ryanair begin negotiations with a prospective base, and the day an announcement is made officially on their website, a lot of people learn of the intent to open the base, what routes, what times etc.

Some employees from all of the airports involved, some employees from Ryanair, employees who work for the slot co-ordination centres for the countries / airports involved, even some people from Boeing are probably also savvy.

Then consider the wives / husbands / lovers / brothers / buddies of these people. It just takes a few posts on a few forums from a few people in the know, or some official or unofficial comments to journalists...

A new base usually takes weeks/months of planning, so still I'm not so surprised that Ryanair have already planned the exact frequency, arrival and departure times of a new Madrid - Eindhoven flight. There'll be people in Madrid Airport, in Eindhoven Airport, in the Dutch slot coordination centre (and others who have access to their website), and people in Ryanair who know this.

It is not surprising that this information can surface on the web before the official Ryanair announcement

This is a rumour forum afterall

[sky_high]

EGHH info appreciated

Enoying the latest news/thoughts/rumours on new routes - especially those relating to south coast UK airfelds!! Keep it up one and all.

SkyHigh

[dwlpl]

Taken from todays comments on the FR website re latest financial results.

'Our new bases at Liverpool, East Midlands and Shannon continue to perform well, with strong bookings over the Summer months, albeit that fares at Shannon continue to be lower than expected. We plan to announce two new bases over the coming months with launch dates in early 2007, as well as further expansion of our existing bases.'

[airhumberside]

I take it SNN-EDI/BOH will mean reductions in frequencies to other SNN routes - is this an attempt to boost yields?

[egnxema]

I predict an EMA-BGY FR starting 27OCT

[True Blue]

Ryanair at BFS

Can you ever see Ryanair operating from Belfast International? They operate from other airports owned by the same group as owns Bfs, but they apparently have never been able to come to an agreement with Bfs. Is the fact that the orange machine has a large operation at Bfs a deterrent? Any views on this ?

True Blue

[Kalium Chloride]

Madrid does not necessarily = Barajas!

Quite. These are excerpts from Air Transport Intelligence, I've highlighted an interesting paragraph:



Spain clears way for completion of Don Quijote Airport
David Kaminski-Morrow, Warsaw (23May06, 11:06 GMT, 404 words)

Spanish authorities have given the go-ahead for construction to resume on the country’s first private airport, Don Quijote outside Cuidad Real, after several months’ dormancy prompted by environmental investigations.

...

Don Quijote Airport is being marketed as a potential low-cost airline base for Madrid despite being some 200km south of the capital.

....

While no customers have yet been formally signed to serve the airport, [Don Quijote marketing director] Rafael Echevarne says that discussions have been held with carriers including Irish budget airline Ryanair.

“Low-cost carriers are going to be our main target,” he states. “Airlines in major alliances are still going to go to Madrid Barajas.”

[CCR]

I heard a rumour a while back that Ryanair were talking to Belfast International but that Easyjet threatened to pull out if Ryanair were going to base aircraft there.

[Charlie Roy]

Shannon yields

Originally Posted by airhumberside

I take it SNN-EDI/BOH will mean reductions in frequencies to other SNN routes - is this an attempt to boost yields?

Indeed, which SNN routes will be reduced to facilitate the new routes to BOH and EDI?

Glasgow PIK, East Midlands EMA, and Bristol BRS are currently daily from SNN.
I expect we are liable to see Tuesdays, Thursdays, Saturdays possibly disappearing from these routes' schedules.

They've axed LTN, so I suppose LGW and STN are safe enough... (Not holding my breath). But there's no way they'll reduce Paris BVA from daily, as I heard it's FR's best performer at SNN

[worldwidewolly]

RYR punctuation

Just copied this from the RYR website.

News Release
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01.08.06
RYANAIR CALLS ON AER LINGUS TO END ITS SNEAKY FUEL SURCHARGE

'Ryanair, Europe’s largest low fares airline today (1st August) called on Aer Lingus to withdraw its sneaky fuel surcharge which was introduced on 15th May at €35 per long haul ticket – but zero on short haul tickets - because Ryanair guarantees no fuel surcharges Aer Lingus cannot impose them on their short haul passengers.'


Calling today on Aer Lingus to withdraw its fuel surcharges, Peter Sherrard, Ryanair’s Head of Communications said:

“There is no justification for Aer Lingus’ fuel surcharge on long haul passengers only. There is even less justification for the recent €10 increase in Aer Lingus’ fuel surcharge.


Who wrote the first paragraph? It makes no sense whatsoever.

And Peter, you can't have even less justification than no justification.

p.s. It's old news but great to repeat it again.

Ryanair recently lost a major court case on every count against REPA/IALPA.

They were humiliated in the case, were found to have been untruthful and lost a s*** load of money.

Ha ha.....

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Kalium Chloride

While no customers have yet been formally signed to serve the airport, [Don Quijote marketing director] Rafael Echevarne says that discussions have been held with carriers including Irish budget airline Ryanair.
“Low-cost carriers are going to be our main target,” he states. “Airlines in major alliances are still going to go to Madrid Barajas.”

I can see that Don Quijote would be a more obvious choice for Ryanair than Barajas, but I believe it's not due to open until mid-2007 at the earliest and there seems to be a suggestion (from other posters here) that Ryanair would be starting Madrid services with effect from October 2006.

Now I could certainly see Ryanair starting service from Barajas and then noisily stomping off to Don Quijote in a couple of years pretending to be appalled that landing fees have gone up after their introductory period (see also: BHX, SNN,...) but I'm not aware of any short-term alternatives to Barajas (unless Quatro Vientos???) if they want to start Madrid services in October.