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Charlie Roy 16th Jul 2006 19:12

Ryanair - 2
 
This article says that Porto in Portugal will soon be a base of Ryanair.
http://www.fabricadeconteudos.com/?l...a36f30086ec37f

Wouldn't have been my first guess though...
From reading various news articles the last few months I would expect the next base to be in Poland, probably Krakow. Ryanair bosses have also visited Murcia to see how construction of the new terminal is proceeding, Hamburg Lubeck is still waiting in the wings, Madrid is the surprise hot new favourite to be Ryanair's next base, and an Oslo Torp base wouldn't surprise me in the slightest as Ryanair can't get enough of the place recently.

Some interesting months ahead... :O

Ananda 16th Jul 2006 20:12

Any news regarding eventual Ryanair operations to Greece?

airhumberside 16th Jul 2006 21:05

When will the final DUB schedule be released and will HUY be dropped (which is unfortuantely expected)?

Charlie Roy 17th Jul 2006 15:05

airhumberside

:( Unfortunately Humberside is currently the only destination from Dublin that is not bookable for winter. You never know though... Malmo and Goteburg were only added today. Maybe they still have to add Humberside in the next day or two.

fredtheanorak 17th Jul 2006 21:54

BOH
 
Seems like Ryanair are getting pretty hacked off with TOM's expansion down at BOH and having taken them on with Pisa are looking to duplicate other TOMMY routes? Anyone know what's cookin down there? Seems EZY are also gettin in on the act this autumn.

phil_2405 17th Jul 2006 22:02


Originally Posted by fredtheanorak
Seems like Ryanair are getting pretty hacked off with TOM's expansion down at BOH and having taken them on with Pisa are looking to duplicate other TOMMY routes?

What makes you say that?

Evileyes 18th Jul 2006 00:54

Ryanair - 2
 
Moderator pruning. Old Ryanair thread is still available but is now read-only.

Charlie Roy 18th Jul 2006 22:58

Ryanair's Polish airports
 
This is an interesting article on how the low cost airline explosion in Poland is putting enormous pressure on Poland's small regional airports that are so well loved by Ryanair.

http://www.pulsbiznesu.pl/content.as...8-517640B1B1EE
"Lodz airport noted record increases and had nearly 82,000 passengers while in the same period of last year it was below 1,000"

EI-MICK 20th Jul 2006 09:51

just about travel if anyone can help,do ryanair accept provisional driving licenses for ID?? flying from Ireland and my friend wants to know for definite.

Shanwickman 20th Jul 2006 10:03

The Ryanair website states "driving licence", it does not state that it has to be a full licence. It must of course have a photo. A driving licence is only acceptable for flights within Ireland or between Ireland and UK.
Also if you use web checkin you MUST show your passport at security and when boarding the aircraft, regardless of whether the flight in within Ireland or not.

Charlie Roy 20th Jul 2006 10:54

New winter routes
 
Prestwick - Eindhoven
Prestwick - Riga
Hahn - Balaton
Hahn - Biarritz
Hahn - Nantes
Hahn - Valencia

Are these routes to replace routes possibly being dropped from Prestwick and Hahn?

XSBaggage 20th Jul 2006 11:11

All current routes seem to be operating as normal from PIK and HHN in the winter 06 season. I dont know for certain, but it appears some of the "sun" routes frequencies are being cut back slightly to allow these new routes to operate. PIK-EIN appears to be simply there to drive Transavia off the PIK-AMS route.

On a similar topic, I always had Ryanair down for providing high frequencies to stimulate demand. Recently they seem to have been veering from this model. For their sake, I hope it doesn't backfire in the long run. But if you are not really catering for business traffic I dont suppose daily is necessary on STN-SUF and PIK-MJV for example.

XSB

brian_dromey 20th Jul 2006 22:36

Is the Ryanair business model really viable in the long term? My thoughts would be no. I just dont see how you can continue to treat your customers like an inconvenience and still enjoy repeat business.

If I may atke my recent FR experience....
At check-in we presented three large suitcases for check-in (at Dubai they wieghed 57 kilos, we were allowed 60kg in total(15 x4). Two bags were overwight, the charge would have come to €180 had I not packed an extra bag. We then had to go through the unnecessary stress of repacking our bags and we then sent four bags under.

At the gate I noticed an older lady who had trouble even getting up from her chair...did FR offer her a wheelchair to the aircraft. No, they made her queue up with everyone else and then fight for a seat on the aircraft.

The aircraft itself was fine, the Cork based crew were not. Very poorly turned out, awful attitude and most were chewing gum. Apparently passengers are only there to be flogged inedible snacks at shocking prices.

Fair enough my ticket was about €25 return. But what about the people who booked a few days in advance, it would have cost them almost €500. This level of serivce surely isnt good enough for those kind of fares?

My basic question is why do FR have so many hidden charges( baggage, overweight baggage, and phantom taxes???) Why are they so bloody inflexable and why in Gods name cant they assign a seat. Its not that difficult.

Actually my basic question is why bother? Will people eventually get sick of being screwed for cash at everypossible oppertunity?

And befor anyone says it, I would complain to FR, but I wouldn't waste the price of a stamp, or my time.

onion 21st Jul 2006 10:34

I think Ryanair have bitten off more than they expected with the 737-800s. They are starting to struggling to make them pay on some routes such as Dublin to Durham Tees Valley. This must be due to the fact that the 738 has 189 seats. When you compare this to other low cost carriers that generally operate 150 seat aircraft you can see the difference and it becomes clear why Ryanair are having to push seats at such low prices. This in turn reduces the yield. The deal they got from Boeing may have been the steal of the century but I think it may start to hurt them. Hopefully they have realised this and change some of the options they have into 737-700s.

essexboy 21st Jul 2006 12:15

A 737-700 is no cheaper to run than a 737-800.

onion 21st Jul 2006 13:30

Essexboy are you sure? Yes full it probably is cheaper to run than a 738, but running half full it won't be. Remember a 738 is heavier than a 737-700 so fuel costs should be more.

Cyrano 21st Jul 2006 14:12


Originally Posted by essexboy
A 737-700 is no cheaper to run than a 737-800.

I beg to differ. I don't have up-to-date detailed numbers to hand but here's a US starting point:
http://www.unisys.com/micro/images/c...harts/fig6.gif
This is from a Unisys report which is a few years old but which gives a rough idea. Of course fuel costs, landing fees etc will have changed, but not the fact that there's a difference in operating costs (on a plane-mile basis) between the -700 and -800. You can see from the chart above that for the airlines flying both -700s and -800s (e.g. Continental, Alaska) there's an appreciable difference.
C.

Looooong haul 21st Jul 2006 14:22

Reading the graph correctly for the ASM the 737-700 and 800 are similar in cost using Alaska as the figure to compare.

On a mile basis the 700 is cheaper as it should be. In Europe the figure is different due to landing fees and overflight costs that are MTOW related..

johnrizzo2000 21st Jul 2006 19:28

Any news on the DUB-ORK route? Any idea of loads? I think FR 737-700's would be a good idea! I've noticed a lot of new routes are 3/4 weekly, as a 738 is to much capacity for a lot of routes! Flying a 738 from Dub to Durham and Humberside is overkill!

HH6702 22nd Jul 2006 11:31

Is NCL to Milan been pulled also


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