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Word on the street is Flybe going to announce 4 a day on BHX-ABZ. As I just posted on Flybe thread- I think Bacon will exit in March, and Baby will lose their shirt in the winter.
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PM works well for such exchanges
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So with all these BACON attackes and issues, why dont they develop more at LCY? From what I can see as a egular flyer from their, the EDI service I use is always packed and the FRA is pretty good a well. Not had a need for MXP yet as their schedule isnt very good. The new MAD service will be ideal for me and lots of colleagues in the city. The great thing is that I get to choose sectors between BA @ LHR & LCY which increases my choices enormously. So what else would work there? I have used the SAS service to CPH and would prefer if BA came on that!
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Friend of mine is being made redundant from Southampton by BA Connect,12 years service as a Capt he gets just under 6000,how cheap can BA get.(BA own BA connect, what a shabby way to treat loyal staff).
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Pha thats a better offer than some staff i know with over 20 years service for Mainline.
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Sorry Railgun I thought this was sinking to a new low.I will shut up now as I can see its bad for all outside of LHR.Goodluck to all at Connect, LGW and anyone else not going to T5.
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What is to say the announcement will not be the Connect product been launched from LGW on all shorthaul routes? Part of the business plan is to change the LGW product iirc. That would then allow GB to go to the connect product from LGW as well.
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I do not know how true this is but have been told that any cabin crew that are contemplating the move to one fleet at LGW the new contract they sign has BA CONNECT writtten on it can anybody confirm/deny?
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Rather than being "made redundant from Southampton by BA Connect". Don't you mean your friend may be choosing volountary redundancy, rather than the relocation package on offer?
Since I don't believe any of the Southampton aircaft are leaving BACON, why would they want to make any pilots redundant?
Not to mention the number of pilots apparently resigning! Perhaps that's why the 'incentive' for redundancy isn't very tempting?
Rather than being "made redundant from Southampton by BA Connect". Don't you mean your friend may be choosing volountary redundancy, rather than the relocation package on offer?
Since I don't believe any of the Southampton aircaft are leaving BACON, why would they want to make any pilots redundant?
Not to mention the number of pilots apparently resigning! Perhaps that's why the 'incentive' for redundancy isn't very tempting?
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Guess if that is true then there will be another smooth transition period between 2 different sides of BA! Another BRAL, Brymon, cityflyer merger on the horizon. Wonder if DE will be incharge of the smooth transition period.
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I hope not, the man is a bafoon!.
Even before DE came on the scene, we have had a few crackers in charge.
The good people from BRAL, BRYMON etc all got out when the going was good and the money was right.
We have a few good managers who are left, but who have the watersde accountants breathing down their necks for every last penny.
How about a staff buy out?
I hope not, the man is a bafoon!.
Even before DE came on the scene, we have had a few crackers in charge.
The good people from BRAL, BRYMON etc all got out when the going was good and the money was right.
We have a few good managers who are left, but who have the watersde accountants breathing down their necks for every last penny.
How about a staff buy out?
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For what it's worth I think the staff are ALL being led up the garden path. Where are the BA Connect titles on the fleet? er..... on a couple of RJ100s and a smattering of 145s and Dashes. Is the brand really being pushed in the press?
If BA Connect had any future beyone the current aircraft leases they would be hammering the advertising to build brand recognition. At the very least, they would have all the fleet repainted. What do you have? You have "ba.com" down the back which will offer you a LHR / LGW connection before you get to BA Connect at all. Go figure, they are clever people at BA, contrary to the impression they often give.
If BA Connect had any future beyone the current aircraft leases they would be hammering the advertising to build brand recognition. At the very least, they would have all the fleet repainted. What do you have? You have "ba.com" down the back which will offer you a LHR / LGW connection before you get to BA Connect at all. Go figure, they are clever people at BA, contrary to the impression they often give.
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BA/BACON to order EMB190
There is increasing mumblings around that BA Connect will be sold before the financial year end. However, the RJ's will remain under the mainline umbrella and their lease extended with BAe until Embraer can fulfill an extended lease with BA mainline for the 190 which will continue the EDI-LCY-MAD-FRA-MXP etc operation.
I presume this means the BACON RJ pilots will become mainline-similar to the Cityflyer integration.....what happens with seniority in BACON?
Anyone know anymore?
BUDGIE
I presume this means the BACON RJ pilots will become mainline-similar to the Cityflyer integration.....what happens with seniority in BACON?
Anyone know anymore?
BUDGIE
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Interesting but there will be a lot of digruntled mainliners if the order go's ahead. The LGW 737 are in a desperate condition inside as to are some of the older 320's. Both types are at the top of the customer complaints list. Lastly, what is left of BACON that is worth buying (I am not being nasty), but the whole thing is such a mismatch.
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I have to agree with HZ here, who would want to buy BACon? I was under the impression that the RJs are still on fairly long leases anyway and i can't see mainline adding an extra type to their inventory, with all the associated costs, just to compete with its own services at its main hub some ten miles to the west. Also I don't see the logic in adding an embraer 190 to the mainline fleet when the A318 is about to be approved for LCY ops and could be integrated into the existing BA fleet.
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Well Lufthansa were very eager to purchase the business less than 2 years ago to utilise the airline as a feeder for their longhaul services. This was immediately blocked by mainline for obvious reasons.
Operationally the A318 is a loss maker on the LCY operation which apparently makes the BA group shedloads of money. The banking contracts that exist are expanding too.
I understand the Embraer is best suited operationally to the route network and BA are keen on dominating the LCY operation before A318's can fit on the pan and EZY move in. The overall impact to the Club loads ex-LHR if an LCC LCY operation existed would hit BA SH very hard indeed.
Indeed what is said about the RJ leases is relatively correct, but the delivery times would coincide with the lease expiries. Also the Embraer order would likely coincide with the LGW replacement order - GB Airways operating as BACON anyone? - and the 30+ 777/787 order before the end of 2007.
Anyone in BA firming up 777 orders before the end of October too?
All conjecture of course..........
Operationally the A318 is a loss maker on the LCY operation which apparently makes the BA group shedloads of money. The banking contracts that exist are expanding too.
I understand the Embraer is best suited operationally to the route network and BA are keen on dominating the LCY operation before A318's can fit on the pan and EZY move in. The overall impact to the Club loads ex-LHR if an LCC LCY operation existed would hit BA SH very hard indeed.
Indeed what is said about the RJ leases is relatively correct, but the delivery times would coincide with the lease expiries. Also the Embraer order would likely coincide with the LGW replacement order - GB Airways operating as BACON anyone? - and the 30+ 777/787 order before the end of 2007.
Anyone in BA firming up 777 orders before the end of October too?
All conjecture of course..........