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What sort of feast do you get on LHR -BRU 
The all-day disappointment is an insult ......albeit a free insult.
Some people intentionally avoid Griefrow for short-haul as it can take just as long to get from the car park to the gate as it does from pushback to touchdown. If the market will bear high prices for a direct flight avoiding the LHR scrum then is that not a sound business decision from the chaps in Marketing ?
I was very sceptical when the new product was launched however business is picking up quite nicely
The all-day disappointment is an insult ......albeit a free insult.Some people intentionally avoid Griefrow for short-haul as it can take just as long to get from the car park to the gate as it does from pushback to touchdown. If the market will bear high prices for a direct flight avoiding the LHR scrum then is that not a sound business decision from the chaps in Marketing ?
I was very sceptical when the new product was launched however business is picking up quite nicely
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The way its going, Titan and Flightline will make out of this. First of all BAConnect decide to sell the 'best' Avros (G-CFA...) to LH/Swiss, then they decide to increase routes only the Avro can fly and add an additional new route from EDI... What the hell are the BAConnect management up to? Titan and Flightline have been doing numerous routes recently for BAConnect as there are tech acft (whats new) and lack of acft, and crew.
It makes one think that there is a conspiacy theory going on at Waterworld to make things not work out...
It makes one think that there is a conspiacy theory going on at Waterworld to make things not work out...
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quotefrom tristar 500 : First of all BAConnect decide to sell the 'best' Avros (G-CFA...) to LH/Swiss...
If you were to know a little more about this deal you might find out why BA have done this deal, the lease cost of the newer RJ's was OTT and handback requirements were interesting!. The aircraft are being sub-leased to Swiss abit like the Eastern 41 deal. I'm glad to see the back of the RJ as they are a royal pain in the ar*e to maintain, and support from BAe systems is getting worse by the day!.
We all know BA Connect have the wrong aircraft for the job, and probably being prepared to be ditched by BA in less than 2 years, but we can only do the job with the equipment we have as re-investment will never happen!.
If you were to know a little more about this deal you might find out why BA have done this deal, the lease cost of the newer RJ's was OTT and handback requirements were interesting!. The aircraft are being sub-leased to Swiss abit like the Eastern 41 deal. I'm glad to see the back of the RJ as they are a royal pain in the ar*e to maintain, and support from BAe systems is getting worse by the day!.
We all know BA Connect have the wrong aircraft for the job, and probably being prepared to be ditched by BA in less than 2 years, but we can only do the job with the equipment we have as re-investment will never happen!.
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The deal to 'let go' the newest Avros must surely have been approved by the management. Ok, the cost of the leases were high, but that cost must be worth it as they were the most reliable Avros in the fleet... Whats left isnt fit for the grassy fields of East Fortune Museum of flight. If BAConnect continue to '****' about with their routes (in particular the EDI-LCY-EDI route) then things will go from bad to terminal, in a very short space of time.
I agree that the staff - whom Iam part of in the bigger picture - can only do their job with the tools they are given, but who is listening to the people trying to do their job? Investment is badly needed and it isnt cheap. Someone, somewhere needs to sit up and take stock of the situation and fast.
Alternatives to the Avro for LCY, and other domestic routes could come in the form of the new Embraer line up (EMB170-195), the A318, and even the B737 NG (modified models).
If BAConnect were to fail, then my job along with hundreds of others would go too, but maybe thats the way these things go when you are run from a fantasy world on the outskirts of Heathrow. Having offices in MAN and IOM really only dilutes the problem. LHR decides and thats it. Mainline are in need of a significant fleet upgrade so where do BAConnect come in to it?
I agree that the staff - whom Iam part of in the bigger picture - can only do their job with the tools they are given, but who is listening to the people trying to do their job? Investment is badly needed and it isnt cheap. Someone, somewhere needs to sit up and take stock of the situation and fast.
Alternatives to the Avro for LCY, and other domestic routes could come in the form of the new Embraer line up (EMB170-195), the A318, and even the B737 NG (modified models).
If BAConnect were to fail, then my job along with hundreds of others would go too, but maybe thats the way these things go when you are run from a fantasy world on the outskirts of Heathrow. Having offices in MAN and IOM really only dilutes the problem. LHR decides and thats it. Mainline are in need of a significant fleet upgrade so where do BAConnect come in to it?
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this airline is a complete waiste of time and space - the only benefit for business men who dont pay their tickets is the free mileage and lounge access.... wake up and smell the coffee! where routes already have low-cost frequency service, get rid of BA Connect - they are useless. £400 return BRS to Munich? please....
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From Ryanair1's reply we can only guess this person has a slight bias.
Having experienced both sides of the BA/FR fence I know which one I'd choose.
It would be nice to have a cut price fleet of shiney new jets and low paid workers???. I wonder how life would be for FR if Boeing were desperate to sell 737's a few years ago??????
Every dog has it's day remember!
Having experienced both sides of the BA/FR fence I know which one I'd choose.
It would be nice to have a cut price fleet of shiney new jets and low paid workers???. I wonder how life would be for FR if Boeing were desperate to sell 737's a few years ago??????
Every dog has it's day remember!
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BACON
All,
Once again, BACON has failed to perform. Myself, along with a few colleagues regularly commute over to Manchester (2-3 times a month) and have in the past regularly been let down by BACON - basically, the timetable tells porkies
Now, we had started using Flybe as an alternative rather than the BACON option, but since last Friday happened to be our company golf day and given Flybe's new charging scheme for hold baggage we decided to resort to good old British Airways... What a mistake!!! (And yes, I lnow BACON is a franchise partner, not BA Mainline).
So, what happened? Well, we all booked in online the night before and printed our boarding cards.... so far so good. But when we reached the airport the following morning (about 07:40 for an 08:30 departure), we discovered that the fligth had been cancelled - and no-one could give us a reason. Instead everyone for MAN was transferred to the BHX flight (Also 08:35).
Luckily, we had the office change our hire car bookings and al other details, but instead of a half hour drive and time to practise, we ended up with a 2.25hour drive and no practise time
Finally, since the BHX flight was only expecting 12 people (ERJ 145) there was only limited catering.
I should also say at this point that both the ground staff and the cabin crew did a spectacular job in dealing with a lot of
passengers like myself. It is a shame that such professionalism is being let down by poor communication and the ops department.
But to the crux. Do the managers at BACON really feel that this type of service is acceptable. I know aircraft can go "tech" and I am not an unreasonable person, but the regularity with which this service suffers "problems" is beyond a standing joke. We met others in our industry on Friday morning who regaled is with the horror stories of BACON to MAN.
The new services got plenty of advertising in the local press and I am sure initially, plenty of other people were happy to switch back to BA. However, I shall not be flying BACON again and shall be switching back to Flybe and the other alternatives - being late for a golf day is inconvenient. Missing a business meeting with a client is not and this is what I must think of in future.
BACON, pls take note. If you want to be successful, you must provide a reliable service.
Regards,
Shuttlebus
P.S. If anyone can enlighten me as to why there was no flight on Friday, I would be interested....
Once again, BACON has failed to perform. Myself, along with a few colleagues regularly commute over to Manchester (2-3 times a month) and have in the past regularly been let down by BACON - basically, the timetable tells porkies
Now, we had started using Flybe as an alternative rather than the BACON option, but since last Friday happened to be our company golf day and given Flybe's new charging scheme for hold baggage we decided to resort to good old British Airways... What a mistake!!! (And yes, I lnow BACON is a franchise partner, not BA Mainline).
So, what happened? Well, we all booked in online the night before and printed our boarding cards.... so far so good. But when we reached the airport the following morning (about 07:40 for an 08:30 departure), we discovered that the fligth had been cancelled - and no-one could give us a reason. Instead everyone for MAN was transferred to the BHX flight (Also 08:35).
Luckily, we had the office change our hire car bookings and al other details, but instead of a half hour drive and time to practise, we ended up with a 2.25hour drive and no practise time
Finally, since the BHX flight was only expecting 12 people (ERJ 145) there was only limited catering. I should also say at this point that both the ground staff and the cabin crew did a spectacular job in dealing with a lot of
passengers like myself. It is a shame that such professionalism is being let down by poor communication and the ops department.But to the crux. Do the managers at BACON really feel that this type of service is acceptable. I know aircraft can go "tech" and I am not an unreasonable person, but the regularity with which this service suffers "problems" is beyond a standing joke. We met others in our industry on Friday morning who regaled is with the horror stories of BACON to MAN.
The new services got plenty of advertising in the local press and I am sure initially, plenty of other people were happy to switch back to BA. However, I shall not be flying BACON again and shall be switching back to Flybe and the other alternatives - being late for a golf day is inconvenient. Missing a business meeting with a client is not and this is what I must think of in future.
BACON, pls take note. If you want to be successful, you must provide a reliable service.
Regards,
Shuttlebus
P.S. If anyone can enlighten me as to why there was no flight on Friday, I would be interested....
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Don't know about BHX or MAN but is there any word about BA Connect expanding in Belfast? A route to London City would be good as Flybe gave this direct route up three years ago, now there's a very good opportunity for a Belfast to London service with BA! If there can be a EDI-LCY, why not BHD-LCY? Surely the normal buissness traveller into London is buy now very sick of a £15 rip off train journey fare from Heathrow to Paddington (even though efficient, quite exspensive), and the tube is a drag.
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Originally Posted by BHDflyer
Don't know about BHX or MAN but is there any word about BA Connect expanding in Belfast? A route to London City would be good as Flybe gave this direct route up three years ago, now there's a very good opportunity for a Belfast to London service with BA! If there can be a EDI-LCY, why not BHD-LCY? Surely the normal buissness traveller into London is buy now very sick of a £15 rip off train journey fare from Heathrow to Paddington (even though efficient, quite exspensive), and the tube is a drag.
Corporate Watch states
Edinburgh is the second largest financial services centre in the UK after London, and despite its geographical size is the sixth largest investment management centre in Europe and the 15th largest in the world.
Domestic routes into LCY have come and gone primarily as it is such a niche market. There are currently seven domestic routes into LCY and the EDI route carries more passengers than the rest put together.
I cannot see a compelling reason for a BHD-LCY route as airlines do not want to operate into expensive, restricted and difficult airports such as LCY without the sort of premium pax mix available from EDI.
Sorry
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BA Connect have announced the withdrawal of services between Southampton and Glasgow from the beginning of the Winter 2006 schedule. The last departure will be on Friday 27 October 2006.
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SOU-GLA
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Gosh Flybe wasted no time - increasing to 6 a day from September and
will use the 195 at some point (reported on terms & endearment thread
and also on flybe site).
Talk about smelling blood.
Is SOU-EDI staying? I suppose it could change to an EDI based aircraft.
Pete
Gosh Flybe wasted no time - increasing to 6 a day from September and
will use the 195 at some point (reported on terms & endearment thread
and also on flybe site).
Talk about smelling blood.
Is SOU-EDI staying? I suppose it could change to an EDI based aircraft.
Pete
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Flybe have Today announced a 33% increase in Frequency and a 50% increase in capacity on the route, to take effect in september. They are obviously making it plain the pain they will inflict on anyone who seeks to try and take BA's place- having spent 3 years providing evil competition to BACON.
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With only GLA / EDI / MAN the closure of SOU base is not too surprising given Flybe's success but a shame for all those involved. Do we have any info where the displaced aircraft are going?