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Old 5th Jun 2006, 18:59
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Well the same was said about DUB before that was announced so im am now slightly more optimistic. Yes i agree they could have done far better, and they should have pulled their socks up as soon as the low cost airlines came onto the scene instead of seemingly passing them off as unsustainable.

Yes people vote with their feet but when offered the choice i dont suppose people of lincoln etc would shrug HUY off. There are seperate markets for the two airports and i hope its not too late for HUY to get back into the game and start off where it should have done ten years ago.
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Old 5th Jun 2006, 21:57
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I have absolutely no doubt that in time DSA will become the main airport of Yorkshire and North Midlands. I am not dissing LBA, its just that I believe DSA is far better placed, both logistically and realistically, for expansion. I do, however, feel you are being disrespectful to HUY. HUY is not a mickey mouse operation and it will continue to grow. Not in respective proportion to DSA, but nevertheless it will grow. Rather than try to discredit HUY, please try and embrace the fact that the region between Hull and Sheffield have two airports, both of whom are increasing operations and giving its people a choice of destinations and AIRPORTS of origin. This surely should be applauded, not criticised.
I can leave my home just outside Hull and can be at DSA in 45 minutes and HUY in 20 minutes. Is this just great or what? I have a colleague in Scunny who can be at either airport in 25 minutes!!
I think it is absolutely fantastic and long may it last.
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Old 7th Jun 2006, 17:57
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Tue a.m PMI now on sale with XL!

The programme is filling up nicely.

Also, FR have announced they are very pleased with the HUY-DUB route so far, with approx 20,000 seats having been sold so far.

What is comforting is that FR have said that LPL-INV and LPL-ABZ sales are above expectations at 3200 and 2550 seats so far, indicating that 20,000 for HUY-DUB is an excellent figure!

Seems the critics have been proven wrong, there IS room for both DSA and HUY to co-exist, and HUY appears to be going from strength to strength!

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Old 8th Jun 2006, 12:38
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They just keep on coming!

SSH now loaded up into the XL timetable.

Dep HUY every Sunday at 11.00.

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Old 9th Jun 2006, 15:17
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nik nak wrote:

"whereas I fear that HUY will continue to bumble along and gradually lose the majority of the revenue earning trade."

I don't think so, because all of a sudden it is not 'bumbling along' it is starting to boom. And now that it is providing destinations then people will fly to them. I don't believe either that they will be passengers who are necessarily other airport customers. Half (or more) of the hassle and a considerable amount of the expense of flying is involved in getting to the airport. It is a big put-off, but suddenly if your local airport just around the corner starts flying to all sorts of destinations you'd always wanted to go but couldn't be bothered with the airport hassle, then you think twice. How often do we hear or read that demand for air travel outstrips capacity? Well this is the living proof

In the cold light of day what ticks me off about the whole HUY thing is that if there are this many people (and probably more) wanting to fly from there now, then most likely there always was. The economic benefits to the Humberside region that must have gone begging for years don't bear thinking about. Somebody should be strung up The apparent years of neglect which I can't believe wasn't in some way part of a management policy is the main reason DSA has outstripped HUY so quickly.

By the way, nice to see we can work together. I bet the pax on last nights Malaga-HUY flight weren't complaining about DSA when it had to divert here, probably because of fog. It must have been so much better and easier getting home than having to get back from MAN.

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Old 26th Jun 2006, 13:22
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The full XL programme has now been released;

MON
Corfu

TUE
Palma
Heraklion

WED
Paphos
Rhodes

THU
Arrecife
Malaga

FRI
Tenerife
Tenerife

SAT
Palma
Alicante
Las Palmas

SUN
Sharm el Sheikh

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Can anyone confirm a rumour that has been passed to me that some of Ryanairs flights from HUY have been culled?
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Old 18th Jul 2006, 11:21
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Just the tuesday flights at the moment, that is the badly performing one of the lot but should bring the loadings back up to a better figure as friday to monday the flights are going out with very good loads but the weekday flights are quite low, with the lowest being 49 a few weeks ago on a tuesday.
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Originally Posted by holidaymax
Can anyone confirm a rumour that has been passed to me that some of Ryanairs flights from HUY have been culled?
As things stand all flights have been culled from the winter timetable
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Anymore further information on who the Humberside and Air Southwest meeting went on back in May?
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Air Southwest has no interest in operating from HUY unfortunately.

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It would appear that FR have culled all flights from HUY after the summer season, quite disapointing news as i do not think it will be replaced and i feel it may have ruined any chance HUY might have had for low cost expansion.
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Old 25th Jul 2006, 16:04
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Pug,
if true that's a real kick in the nads for HUY and will truely put the kibosh on low cost asperations of the management.

I only hope they put everything into concentrating upon the IT world, its the only thing left in the battle with DSA.
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Do the management have any low cost aspirations though? The fopcus really is on charters at the moment
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Old 25th Jul 2006, 19:04
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Many feared a daily 189-seat 738 would be too much aircraft for a DUB service, unfortunately this looks like the case.

It seems almost baffling that HUY continues to prosper with charter flights and yet falls flat with scheduled services. There is an obvious demand for flights to the sunspots, but does nobody in the region ever want to travel to other places in sufficient numbers too? The DSA effect can't be blamed too much either, the situation existed long before it opened and even now DSA only offers a handful of non 'sun' destinations.

Perhaps the focus, as already seems, ought to be on continuing to be relatively strong in the charter market and cement it's postion there. Over time, and if remaining successful in this market, then maybe a LCC will take another look at HUY principally for Spanish destinations (which, I imagine is where any money is to be made) and build it from there.
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Old 25th Jul 2006, 21:36
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To be perfectly honest i dont think HUY want to be in direct competition with DSA, that would be far too risky. I heard from someone 'inside' that they have said they are to keep playing to their strengths, strengths being IT/charter.

Though i dont believe they actively discourage lo-co ops i dont think attracting one is on the top of the agenda, its all down to money at the end of the day, HUY makes more money for MAG than BOH does, BOH's expansion being predominantly from low cost airlines.

The sun routes would work, i have no doubt, but a lo-co would surely want more than just the potential of operating to the usual ALC, AGP and PMI. A similar operation to that of Jet2's at BLK would be good and it is thought they are still looking at HUY for a base in the future, though the thing thats stopping them is not the catchment size more the demographics of the region.

All that said though, FR have proved that there is at least demand for low cost flights from HUY and maybe some potential lo-co will be watching closely before making that investment.

At least the core routes are stil there and growing KLM going 4xdaily, CFU and SSH with a full based a/c from XL next summer. You never know we may have someone else in by then.
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Old 26th Jul 2006, 08:44
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Originally Posted by pug
HUY makes more money for MAG than BOH does, BOH's expansion being predominantly from low cost airlines.
Sure about that?
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Old 26th Jul 2006, 12:55
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Dublin

Ryanair have a aircraft in their Dublin base that is still unscheduled for winter on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays and Sundays between 9pm and 11:30pm.

Fingers crossed the may use this aircraft to operate Humberside
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4 times a week wouldn't be a bad frequency and those flights times would be OK for the weekend break market as people could go straight to HUY after work on a Friday

Hopefully that aircraft will be coming to HUY
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Old 26th Jul 2006, 18:56
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Originally Posted by pug
HUY makes more money for MAG than BOH does, BOH's expansion being predominantly from low cost airlines.

Sure about that?
I have it on reliable sources working within the group, i should imagine considerable investment has been put into BOH due to the rapid growth?

I like the sound of those flight times and the frequency, hopefuly theyl take it up.
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