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Old 29th Aug 2012, 11:30
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davidjohnson, given the number of passengers using the airport, I would guess the number of passengers using rail via Barnetby to get to the airport would be negligable. The frequency of the Humberflyer service would mean that a stop at Barnetby would make no difference anyway. I believe there is a large information board at the station for people wanting to reach the airport, including numbers for the airports own taxi company.

Also, I would expect another announcement by 'jetXtra' soon.. I wonder if the airport will be talking to any real operators regarding restarting leisure routes? As things stand only the weekly Bourgas flights are on sale for next summer.
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Richard Lake makes money by buying up unfashionable and un loved things, and turning them round. Humberside tick those boxes, and has made either a small profit or small loss in most recent years.

He obviously sees a future for the place where others have lost interest, and since his airline is based there he is now in charge of his own destiny rather than being beholden to someone buying up the place for other reasons.

Doncaster is a white elephant, Huy whilst not that busy, ticks along in a different way.
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Horsebox, I agree. However white elephant or not, DSA has stolen a march on HUY's leisure routes.

Are the new owners going to be able to get some of that market back?
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If the staff who are 'in charge' of getting new flights and interest in the Airport are still being employed by Eastern, then there is more chance of me growing 3 extra legs than them getting anything extra, flight-wise. Lets face it, they have done NOTHING for HUY in the last few years, have they?

Eastern should get their own people to work on improving the number of flights, or all I can see for the next summer season and the following winter season is tumbleweed rolling down the runway.
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Tonto68, at least we will be hearing some news from 'jetXtra' soon...
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 23:56
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tonto68 - things aren't quite as bad as you think. If you reckon times are bad, there's always MME to look at as well...
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lowcostholidays appears to have on sale humberside charter flights with an unnamed charter airline (presumably someone spanish as flights seem to start in Mallorca) for summer 2013. These don't seem to match with anything that is currently available with anyone else (Thomas Cook etc)..

Tuesdays 28May, 02-16July, 03September
Palma Mallorca 0700 - 0845 Humberside
Humberside 1720 - 2105 Palma Mallorca
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Humberside 0945 - 1330 Alicante
Alicante 1430 - 1620 Humberside

..I can't quite figure out if these are just random dates or if there is actually a full summer operation but their system isn't fully updated yet?
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Old 12th Sep 2012, 10:37
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Tuesdays 28May, 02-16July, 03September
Palma Mallorca 0700 - 0845 Humberside
Humberside 1720 - 2105 Palma Mallorca
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Humberside 0945 - 1330 Alicante
Alicante 1430 - 1620 Humberside
Looks very jetXtra/Albastar..

At the same time, Thomas Cook appear to have finally dropped HUY in favour of DSA with the remaining PMI and DLM capacity from HUY this year having been switched to DSA, and today added to by a weekly Enfidha flight.. Shame as the once strong Turkish market from HUY has been reduced to nothing.

Olympic Holidays appear to have abandoned HUY for next year too, with their remaining weekly flight to HER having been transfered to BFS.

So as things stand, only BH Air to Bourgas is on sale for next year. Will be interesting to see how the new owners plan to take the airport forward. Management have said in interview that the airport will return to profit if the 500,000 ppa figure can be reached again. With over a million people living within 30 minutes of the airport that really shouldnt be too difficult in the longer term.
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There is talk of the above flights having some tie in with the Monarch Group, operated by a third party airline.
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Management have said in interview that the airport will return to profit if the 500,000 ppa figure can be reached again. With over a million people living within 30 minutes of the airport that really shouldnt be too difficult in the longer term.
Last time they went from 273000 (=2011 levels) to 500000 pax a year it took them seven years - 1996 to 2003.
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CAA provisional stats for the period Sep 2011 to Aug 2012 show Humberside had 240,000 passengers. It would take very rapid growth to reach 273,000 for calendar year 2012.
This means that Humberside is currently slightly below 1994 passenger levels.

The demons of Teesside are not that far away...

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Davidjohnson, as Im sure you are aware, airports are long term investments. Eastern got the place for a steal. Operating losses had reduced in the year 2011-12 from £0.7million to £0.4million..

The helicopter movements generate 5-6000 passengers per month.

Im not sure of MME's financial situation, however you are comparing apples with oranges in my opinion.
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pug - yes, airports like any other large item of infrastructure have to be treated as long term investments. Yes, with all the offshore carbon-based energy under the sea and the related helicopter trips to rigs, Humberside has a stable customer base.

But, with just 240,000 passengers, over the last 12 months, compared to 273,000 in calendar year 2011, HUY is not in a good place.
Yes, it can be turned around, but it's a hefty job to get it back to its glories of 2003 / 2004

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Some new flights are looking likely to be announced soon, which may go towards replacing some lost capacity. Uts unclear who it is at the moment as no announcement has been made. Small steps but these things take time for airports like HUY.. It will be interesting to see whether the new owners can turn things around on the leisure front.
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Just been told that they will be an official announcement made sometime tomorrow regarding new routes from Humberside Airport for summer 2013.

So watch this space!
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 09:38
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So far PMI and ALC announced, supposidly more to come. No operator has bern mentioned as yet.
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Where exactly are these announcements do you have a link?
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Old 21st Sep 2012, 10:27
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Humberside Airport Travel will be announcing routes sporadically through the day it seems, you will find them on facebook.
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The humberside airport travel website is showing holidays for 2013 available to:

Benidorm (ALC)
Mallorca (PMI)
Bulgaria (BOJ?) - presumably this is the Balkan Holidays option
Greek Isles (HER?) - I guess this is Olympic Holidays
French Riviera (NCE) - is this a one-off, or another new charter series yet to be announced??
Croatia (DBV) - I assume this is the Newmarket Holidays one-off flight
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The last three in the list are one offs, they haven announced the rest of the new routes as of yet.

All they are saying is that the 'holidays are with Humberside Airport Travel'..
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