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Old 23rd Apr 2008, 17:00
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realistically were can you see HUY in the next year or two
The way things are going, general decline year on year. The only saving grace would be KLM...
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I know KLM recently introduced another daily flight from HUY to AMS but what have the load factors been like? I really don't see how HUY can support 4 flights a day with KLM.
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The percentage increases in loads have been very small since the 4th flight was introduced (it doesnt run all year). But KLM have kept it probably about 75% of the year for a couple of years now so it must be performing well enough for KLM not to reduce to an all year round 3xDaily
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I know KLM recently introduced another daily flight from HUY to AMS but what have the load factors been like? I really don't see how HUY can support 4 flights a day with KLM.
The load factors for the route are conststantly high. have been for years. HUY supports these flights due to the business in the region. Something DSA cant provide. Yields are a big factor.. And over 10,000 pax per month.

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humberside just been put up for sale

just been announced that the MAG group intend to sell Humberside airport
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Humberside Airport Up For Sale

just been reported.
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BBC News report:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/humber/7367258.stm
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The book is open on who the top five buyers might be:

1) The limstone mining and processing company across the road (there's a huge demand for limestone in the steel processing industry worldwide, and HUY sits bang on top of millions of tons of the stuff).

2) A consortium of local businessmen with no clear idea of what to do with it, other than blather their Little England ideas to the press.

3) Any automotive manufacturer and/or testing organisation.

4) Centerparcs.

5) Lord Yarborough (or is he an Earl?), very wealthy local landowner, owns most of Lincolnshire and Humberside, always has been a staunch opponent of the airport and would return it to agricultural use tomorrow.
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BBC news item

Humberside Airport to be sold off


The airport was bought for £10m nine years ago



The owner of Humberside Airport has announced it is planning to sell its stake in the business.
Manchester Airports Group (MAG) said it wanted to sell its 82.7% share to focus on its larger airports - Manchester, East Midlands and Bournemouth.
The news surprised North Lincolnshire Council which owns the remaining 17.3% of Humberside Airport.
Council chief executive Simon Driver said the local authority "now needed to consider its position".
A spokeswoman for MAG admitted that its decision had left an uncertain future for the 730 people who are employed by a variety of companies based at Humberside Airport.
"It is a great airport, it returns a profit but we feel it needs somebody else to take it forward as we concentrate on our core business at our other airports," she said.
"We have grown the business since taking over in 1999 and we would hope that would be the case under new ownership.
"However, it is difficult to say how someone else is going to run the business."
In light of the news from Manchester Airports Group, the council now needs to consider its position


Simon Driver, North Lincolnshire Council chief executive



MAG chief executive Geoff Muirhead said: "Humberside Airport is a solid business but the attention needed to maximise its full potential may not fit easily with the group's emerging strategy.
"The Humberside Airport team has done a fantastic job retaining and attracting airlines and maintaining stable passenger numbers, particularly during the last few years when competition has increased significantly."
Mr Driver said: "North Lincolnshire Council welcomes the long-term relationship with Manchester Airports Group and recognises that now is the time to look to the future.
"We will build on the success of the airport for the benefit of North Lincolnshire and the wider region.
"The airport has real potential and the council, as a shareholder, will look to maximise the development of the airport in the future.
"The council has maintained its shareholding in the airport since 1996.
"In light of the news from Manchester Airports Group, the council now needs to consider its position. It is inappropriate to comment further at this stage."
Since buying its majority stake in Humberside Airport in 1999 for £10m, MAG has invested nearly £7m to improve and develop the airport's infrastructure. Routes currently served from Humberside include Air France/KLM's worldwide hub at Amsterdam, many popular holiday destinations, including the Canaries, Lapland and the Channel Islands, and domestic services to Scotland. Government forecasts indicate that Humberside Airport is expected to handle about one million passengers every year by 2016.
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good building land bye any chance
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Quick, let's cover this thread up before someone at the BAA decides that they want it.

The potential for legislation to order them to sell some of their airport assets may be making some rather uncomfortable, even if it's still a way off.

Humberside is reported as making a profit, anybody seen any commentary about baggage issues, terminals that cannot cope, high landing charges, traffic congestion or grim queues at security. Nope, didn't think so !

Let's hope that someone (other than the BAA) step up to the plate and invest to allow an airport that has started to build slowly and successfully to continue to do so for the benefit of those who it serves.

Good luck to them.
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Dysonshere it is in the middle of nowhere (as it should be) and is no good to build house. Has had enormous pretension to greatness ever since it changed the name from Humberside to Humberside INTERNATIONAL. Thats not to say the lads and lasses on atc etc dont do a good job because they are absolutely spot on. It was far better as RAF Kirmington!
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1) The limstone mining and processing company across the road (there's a huge demand for limestone in the steel processing industry worldwide, and HUY sits bang on top of millions of tons of the stuff).

2) A consortium of local businessmen with no clear idea of what to do with it, other than blather their Little England ideas to the press.

3) Any automotive manufacturer and/or testing organisation.

4) Centerparcs.

5) Lord Yarborough (or is he an Earl?), very wealthy local landowner, owns most of Lincolnshire and Humberside, always has been a staunch opponent of the airport and would return it to agricultural use tomorrow.
I think if MAG do sell, it would be in the councils best interests to keep it as it is. I would realy like to wait and see who intends to buy before making statements like the above!
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 17:55
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MAG say they are not bound to sell and will only do so to the best interests of the airport. Hmmm...

I hope they keep to that, North Lincs council still own a share afterall and they wont want it as a quarry.

Though some charters have been lost the overall utilisation of the site is keeping it afloat along with the strong klm service. I dont see why a better suited operator of smaller airports, say omniport and the like, cannot make a real good go of it.

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Old 25th Apr 2008, 18:59
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Small Is Good

The secret of Humberside or any small regional airport is no hasel, queues etc. Check in at HUY and fly to anywhere via Schiphol. Might be one reason HUY - AMS works. Or select one of the charters for a holiday and miss the stress at MAN LGW etc. It will be a shame if the airport is not sold as a going concern as I would miss the facility. Was it not brought by MAG to stiffel its development so that the people in the catchment would drive along the M62 to MAN.
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 19:06
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Humberside sale

MAG to review its stake in Humberside Airport


MAG to review its stake in Humberside Airport
We have today announced that we are examining our majority shareholding in Humberside Airport.
Humberside Airport is a solid business and we recognise the fantastic job the team at Humberside have done in retaining and attracting airlines and maintaining stable passenger numbers, particularly during the last few years when competition has increased significantly. However, the attention needed to maximise the full potential of Humberside may not fit easily with the Group’s emerging strategy.
Therefore, it is sensible in order to secure the best possible long-term future for colleagues, partners and airlines at Humberside Airport that all options including a possible transfer of ownership are considered.
MAG is well aware of the uncertainty this situation creates for people at Humberside Airport and we are committed to fully consulting and engaging with colleagues and the Trades Unions during this review process.
Colleagues at Humberside who are working this afternoon have already received face-to-face briefings and those not present will receive a written communication tomorrow. Further face-to-face briefings will be offered next week. We are establishing a formal consultation process across the site which includes a colleague forum. This will be established over the coming weeks and will be one of the key elements for communication across the site.


This is taken from the MAG website dated today 25/04/08
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 19:10
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Am i right in thinking HUY is still in profit? Would that not have a swing on things to a good smaller operator? A going concern?
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Old 25th Apr 2008, 19:18
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Was it not brought by MAG to stiffel its development so that the people in the catchment would drive along the M62 to MAN.
Not so. HUY came as part of the package MAG bought from National Express which also contained EMA and BOH. Ironically, it is more likely to be EMA that is hoovering up pax from HUY, than MAN.

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Old 25th Apr 2008, 19:27
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HUY came as part of the package MAG bought from National Express
HUY was bought in 1999 from the four unitary authorities that were once Humberside county. North Lincolnshire keep a minority share however. They came to aquire EMA from National Express (which apparantly came with BOH for free) some time later.

It is thought to have been political reasons, initialy to fight for the second runway approval and then to fight the Peel plans for DSA (which is turning out to be less popular than origionaly believed)
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I stand corrected.

Thanks.

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