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Heard that some passengers stood up for themselves at Cork yesterday around lunchtime. Futura had the Bravo Air Congo Boeing 767-200 hired in for a flight to Palma. It was just beginning to rain as she landed and by about half an hour later it was pouring down. Being a widebody the 767-200 was parked up at Stand 17, the sole widebody stand and the one furthest from the terminal. Then the boarding of pax began. Some of the pax were stuck in a queue on the steps and other pax refused to board the 767. I am told the Duty Manager was called and that is as much as I know but you can understand the feelings of the refusing pax with families of young children not wanting to take Cork Airport's long Walk of Shame in such inclement and wet weather. However, things must have been sorted as the 767 left some time later after 2 pm. Impressive take off from 17 throwing up a lot of spray on the take off roll.
The Morning Ireland RTE Radio 1 news programme has a special on Cork business tomorrow morning, Tuesday, 20th June, 2006 so get in your comments now on the present state of play at Cork Airport with regard to the terminal and it's costings and the upcoming loss of easyJet flights from Gatwick and the loss of revenue to the airport that this will bring.
The Morning Ireland RTE Radio 1 news programme has a special on Cork business tomorrow morning, Tuesday, 20th June, 2006 so get in your comments now on the present state of play at Cork Airport with regard to the terminal and it's costings and the upcoming loss of easyJet flights from Gatwick and the loss of revenue to the airport that this will bring.
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The cessation of Easyjet services to Gatwick is disappointing, but at least there will still be a reasonable level of service to London (even if the prices will go up).
What has happened with UK regional services is considerably more depressing. Manchester is back to one daily having peaked at 5 daily. I'd be considerably happier with the 3x daily BA service than what is there at present. The twice daily Birmingham service from Aer Arann has been replaced with poorly timed flights from two different carriers. Plymouth is gone. Glasgow is going. NEMA has gone. Leeds-Bradford is going. Liverpool has reduced. Bristol has reduced. Cardiff has reduced.
The only two bright spots are Edinburgh, which is now up to 11 weekly and Durham Tees Valley, which will be going to daily in the Winter.
Up to now, it has been possible to hide behind increasing figures for flights to the European Mainland.
Time for airport management to start courting operators like Eastern and Air SouthWest?
What has happened with UK regional services is considerably more depressing. Manchester is back to one daily having peaked at 5 daily. I'd be considerably happier with the 3x daily BA service than what is there at present. The twice daily Birmingham service from Aer Arann has been replaced with poorly timed flights from two different carriers. Plymouth is gone. Glasgow is going. NEMA has gone. Leeds-Bradford is going. Liverpool has reduced. Bristol has reduced. Cardiff has reduced.
The only two bright spots are Edinburgh, which is now up to 11 weekly and Durham Tees Valley, which will be going to daily in the Winter.
Up to now, it has been possible to hide behind increasing figures for flights to the European Mainland.
Time for airport management to start courting operators like Eastern and Air SouthWest?
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Easyjet and Cork
Reports of Easyjet leaving Cork are wide of the mark. Load factors are quite good and they could sustain at least one return service a day during the winter. I'm told that no decision has been made in relation to their Cork services.
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Maybe there is a chink of hope if the bunch in charge at Cork have got the wind up 'em and are now scrambling around trying to save the day and are really trying to get easyJet to stay onside with some kind of service.
Otherwise, if all the predictions about autumn and winter losses come true it will be hard for Cork or any airport to ever get back that amount of capacity to the UK and then the CAA are facing in to an uncharted vista which can only end in job cutbacks?
Unlike anything else up there that might focus the ol' mind among the top brass at Cork?
Otherwise, if all the predictions about autumn and winter losses come true it will be hard for Cork or any airport to ever get back that amount of capacity to the UK and then the CAA are facing in to an uncharted vista which can only end in job cutbacks?
Unlike anything else up there that might focus the ol' mind among the top brass at Cork?
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So one 1 or 2 airlines are ceasing routes to Cork...they'll be replaced by other airlines. We saw that recently when Air Wales announced they were ceasing the Cork-Cardiff service, Aer Arann replaced them. I wouldn't be surprised if the same happened to Leeds Bradford and Glasgow routes.
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Hopefully EI starts DUB-GLA! They are finally showing an interest in ORK and realising there is money to be made there! I think a codeshare with RE on the Dublin-Cork route would make sense, so EI could connect PAX from Cork and onto EI's services to the US, Dubai and Europe! Although EI serves a number of routes ex ORK, it would offer ORK PAX an alternative and give put bums on seats ex DUB!
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Taken from RTE
DAA warns on Dublin Airport's limitations
June 20, 2006 19:51
The Dublin Airport Authority needs to charge passengers a €7.50 tariff to ensure improvements planned for Dublin Airport are finished on time.
The DDA told the Oireachtas Transport Committee today that the current maximum tariff charge of just over €6 is too low.
Construction on a new terminal and runway at the airport is planned to begin next May and should be completed within 30 months.
Unless there is a new runway built at the airport, the DAA's CEO Declan Collier said they will have to turn planes away sometime between 2010 and 2012.
The DAA also told the committee that the sale of the Great Southern Hotels should be completed before the end of the year.
Also at that meeting, DAA chairman Gary McGann said that Shannon Airport was currently not financially viable and it would therefore take longer than originally thought to separate it from the control of the Dublin Airport Authority.
Under the State Airports Act, which broke up Aer Rianta, a viable business plan for each of the three state airports had to be demonstrated before they could function independently.
He said that military flights using Shannon Airport were masking underlying losses at the airport.
Meanwhile, the new terminal building at Cork Airport is due to open in July the Committee also heard today
DAA warns on Dublin Airport's limitations
June 20, 2006 19:51
The Dublin Airport Authority needs to charge passengers a €7.50 tariff to ensure improvements planned for Dublin Airport are finished on time.
The DDA told the Oireachtas Transport Committee today that the current maximum tariff charge of just over €6 is too low.
Construction on a new terminal and runway at the airport is planned to begin next May and should be completed within 30 months.
Unless there is a new runway built at the airport, the DAA's CEO Declan Collier said they will have to turn planes away sometime between 2010 and 2012.
The DAA also told the committee that the sale of the Great Southern Hotels should be completed before the end of the year.
Also at that meeting, DAA chairman Gary McGann said that Shannon Airport was currently not financially viable and it would therefore take longer than originally thought to separate it from the control of the Dublin Airport Authority.
Under the State Airports Act, which broke up Aer Rianta, a viable business plan for each of the three state airports had to be demonstrated before they could function independently.
He said that military flights using Shannon Airport were masking underlying losses at the airport.
Meanwhile, the new terminal building at Cork Airport is due to open in July the Committee also heard today
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Looks like the new terminal will see some custom for the first time around 10th July, 2006 when inbound flights and passengers will be processed through the new terminal. A week later the IT flights will come and go via the new terminal and then one week later all flights will be operating from the new 200 million euro creation and about time too says you!
The above was gleaned from last night's Evening Echo which I saw only very briefly so it is maybe possible there were a few other gems of info about Cork so if anyone has any updates please go ahead!
Very interesting remarks at the Oireachtas Committe from Mr McGann of the Dublin based multi-national, the Dublin Airport Authority, about snn not being currently financially viable. Guess this will be an another excuse to top up the snn incentives for the likes of FR for a few years more and try to shaft the rest of the country with more transatlantic favouritism and the oul' stopover? Absolutely no chance of a modest runway extension for Cork or an ILS CATIII in these circumstances, is there?
The above was gleaned from last night's Evening Echo which I saw only very briefly so it is maybe possible there were a few other gems of info about Cork so if anyone has any updates please go ahead!
Very interesting remarks at the Oireachtas Committe from Mr McGann of the Dublin based multi-national, the Dublin Airport Authority, about snn not being currently financially viable. Guess this will be an another excuse to top up the snn incentives for the likes of FR for a few years more and try to shaft the rest of the country with more transatlantic favouritism and the oul' stopover? Absolutely no chance of a modest runway extension for Cork or an ILS CATIII in these circumstances, is there?
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Aer Arann is launching 3 new routes from October 2nd!
Cork-Galway
Cork-Leeds Bradford
Galway-Leeds Bradford
http://www.rte.ie/business/2006/0621/aerarann.html
Cork-Galway
Cork-Leeds Bradford
Galway-Leeds Bradford
http://www.rte.ie/business/2006/0621/aerarann.html
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Cork - Galway Aer Arann at one daily must be a winner so is very welcome.
ORK-LBA is welcome too of course but an early morning MAN could have been a winner for connections east and westbound from Manchester and with FR four weekly on LPL-ORK another Manchester flight from RE could pick up some of the lost slack from FR and also help to nibble away with small bites at the three weekly FR snn-MAN?
Overall though the new RE flights are very welcome.
ORK-LBA is welcome too of course but an early morning MAN could have been a winner for connections east and westbound from Manchester and with FR four weekly on LPL-ORK another Manchester flight from RE could pick up some of the lost slack from FR and also help to nibble away with small bites at the three weekly FR snn-MAN?
Overall though the new RE flights are very welcome.
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I notice Arran have also added an extra Cork to Dublin at 0700 - this connects in both ways with their Dublin Galways to give the day return using the direct service.
I thought this wold be right up against Ryanairs first departure to Dublin but their website shows them going down to two a day for winter, with the first one out of Cork to Dublin at 1000. What are they planning for the early slot out of Cork?
I thought this wold be right up against Ryanairs first departure to Dublin but their website shows them going down to two a day for winter, with the first one out of Cork to Dublin at 1000. What are they planning for the early slot out of Cork?
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JDB1052--Ryanair will be using their first slot to operate a LGW flight.
Who will want to go to Galway via Dublin. dosent make sense especially when you'd drive it just as quick!!!
Who will want to go to Galway via Dublin. dosent make sense especially when you'd drive it just as quick!!!
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The timetable is showing Cork - Galway via Dublin at 3 hours. Allow an hour for checking in on the Cork side and getting to where you want to go in Galway and it's four hours.
The return trip, direct, is half an hour, so the total trip time is 5 and a half hours (again allowing an hour returning for checkin and Cork side travel). That makes it half an hour faster than driving, assuming you're not driving at rush hour, which could add half an hour in Limerick alone, not to mind Ennis....
Can't believe Ryanair are stopping the 6.45 to Dublin, it's always full when i travel on it, and it's a brilliant time. You can be in Dublin city centre by 8, do your thing and get the 13.30 home with RE.
The return trip, direct, is half an hour, so the total trip time is 5 and a half hours (again allowing an hour returning for checkin and Cork side travel). That makes it half an hour faster than driving, assuming you're not driving at rush hour, which could add half an hour in Limerick alone, not to mind Ennis....
Can't believe Ryanair are stopping the 6.45 to Dublin, it's always full when i travel on it, and it's a brilliant time. You can be in Dublin city centre by 8, do your thing and get the 13.30 home with RE.
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Ryanair vs Easyjet
So the customer and customer demand for routes is of no relevance in the entire process. Get rid of EZY and then do whatever you want to the passengers when you're the only/biggest dog left in town.
With regard to the uncertainty (see posts above) to EZYs future in Cork, does this indicate that they are sticking at it in Cork if RYR are continuing to try and beat them up?
With regard to the uncertainty (see posts above) to EZYs future in Cork, does this indicate that they are sticking at it in Cork if RYR are continuing to try and beat them up?
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It's a bit peculiar that they are putting in a connecting service since up to now they have only shown point-to-point. They have a number of other routes that they could treat this way (GWY-CWL, ORK-CWL). I wonder why they've decided to show it for Cork-Galway alone.
Jackson visit to Cork