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Since MaxJet are a business-class only airline, would they get enough business in Cork? It's one thing to imagine filling a 757 out of Cork, but to fill 102 business-class seats would be quite a challenge.
I'd go along with the thinking that the most likely candidate is a US legacy carrier with 757s. Their set-up would make servicing the route much more straightforward.
I'd go along with the thinking that the most likely candidate is a US legacy carrier with 757s. Their set-up would make servicing the route much more straightforward.
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It's not going to be easy to get a US service from Cork. Aerlingus are the one airline that has expressed an interest in ORK JFK but that was under the Walsh/Kearney management.
Let's hope that Cork are not tempted to get involved in any more Charter intiatives as the failure of 3 such attempts has undermined the credibility of transatlantic from Cork.
Let's hope that Cork are not tempted to get involved in any more Charter intiatives as the failure of 3 such attempts has undermined the credibility of transatlantic from Cork.
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I honestly don't think transatlantic charters will ever work from ORK, and I guess this has been proved by the failed efforts so far. I for one would steer well clear of a charter as if an aircraft goes tech (and this has happened alot with charters out of Cork), you could be waiting quite a while for your take off. It is simply not a good option re connections or seasonal scheduling. A legacy carrier would probably work as there is plenty of US MNCs operating in the Cork area and they would certainly rather fly direct to the states if at all possible. Mind you, the US immigration pre-clearance at SNN and DUB is a great asset and something that you would obviously not get at Cork. Anyway, just my two cents worth....
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The amount of US based companies, especially in the Pharmaceutical and IT industries that it's a no brainer that it will work from Cork. It has double the population of the Shannon region which has multiple US destinations. Charters simply do not work for business travel.
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easyJet Cork - game over
This evening's Cork Evening Echco newspaper has a front page story confirming that easyJet are quitting Cork on 30th September. The newspaper is quoting that whilst Cork was their most successful Irish route tough competition from Ryanair has forced them off the route. Flights from Gatwick to Knock Airport and Shannon are also ending on the same date.
This is a very bad blow in public relations terms for Cork Airport in the days prior to the opening up of her new terminal. The move by easyJet makes Cork Airport look very foolish indeed and again brings into question last autumn's courting of Ryanair by the bunch in charge at Cork Airport.
That was one bad day's work and brings into question the competence of the Cork Airport board. By any yardstick Ryanair have made clear their own lack of committment to Cork Airport since January of this year by pulling the FR903/4, FR907/8 for the peak summer months and the cutting of their Liverpool flight to 4 weekly down from a daily service.
The competence of the Cork Airport board is further drawn into even more question today if what is being rumored around Cork today has any basis - there was a significant electricity failure in the Cork south city area last Monday in the localities, roughly, from Ballincollig to Crosshaven. The airport must have been affected in some way because that electricity failure is now being touted around as the latest lame excuse for not yet opening the new terminal!
The bunch in charge at Cork Airport are just something else, aren't they! Why would you have any faith in them?
This is a very bad blow in public relations terms for Cork Airport in the days prior to the opening up of her new terminal. The move by easyJet makes Cork Airport look very foolish indeed and again brings into question last autumn's courting of Ryanair by the bunch in charge at Cork Airport.
That was one bad day's work and brings into question the competence of the Cork Airport board. By any yardstick Ryanair have made clear their own lack of committment to Cork Airport since January of this year by pulling the FR903/4, FR907/8 for the peak summer months and the cutting of their Liverpool flight to 4 weekly down from a daily service.
The competence of the Cork Airport board is further drawn into even more question today if what is being rumored around Cork today has any basis - there was a significant electricity failure in the Cork south city area last Monday in the localities, roughly, from Ballincollig to Crosshaven. The airport must have been affected in some way because that electricity failure is now being touted around as the latest lame excuse for not yet opening the new terminal!
The bunch in charge at Cork Airport are just something else, aren't they! Why would you have any faith in them?
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Easyjet's decision is very disappointing. However there is nothing the board could do to stop Ryanair from going head to head with them on Gatwick.
At present Cork will have 10 return flights per day to London for Winter 2006/07 as against 12 for 2005/06. This in itself should not have a major impact. However if Ryanair row back on their plans to operate 3 per day to both Gatwick and Stansted, the shining terminal on the hill could be handling less traffic than the old terminal before the year is out.
Early morning flights to Poland etc won't make up the difference.
At present Cork will have 10 return flights per day to London for Winter 2006/07 as against 12 for 2005/06. This in itself should not have a major impact. However if Ryanair row back on their plans to operate 3 per day to both Gatwick and Stansted, the shining terminal on the hill could be handling less traffic than the old terminal before the year is out.
Early morning flights to Poland etc won't make up the difference.
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Desperate shame to see Easyjet go 
People always give out how Ryanair battled them off the route. And I agree, it would have been better to see Ryanair use their Cork based aircraft to introduce new routes from Cork.
Don't forget though that Easyjet introduced Cork - Gatwick when BMI baby were already operating the route.
Of the 3 flights now offered daily to Gatwick by Ryanair, it would be nice to see the middle one used for Luton instead.
People always give out how Ryanair battled them off the route. And I agree, it would have been better to see Ryanair use their Cork based aircraft to introduce new routes from Cork.
Don't forget though that Easyjet introduced Cork - Gatwick when BMI baby were already operating the route.
Of the 3 flights now offered daily to Gatwick by Ryanair, it would be nice to see the middle one used for Luton instead.
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It must also be said that Irish people in general did not support Easyjet but invariably travelled to London with Ryanair and Aerlingus.
Their name recognition just didn't penetrate the Irish market and they generally just captured UK originating traffic.
Having said that I am sure they could sustain a daily ORK-LGW service if they really wanted to.
Their name recognition just didn't penetrate the Irish market and they generally just captured UK originating traffic.
Having said that I am sure they could sustain a daily ORK-LGW service if they really wanted to.
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Isn't that what everyone wants to be honest
I came in on EI715 on Tuesday last and was disappointed to see the terminal not open after being in Egypt for 3 weeks. It does look impressive though and I have seen a few pics from inside and they have done it quite tastefully. Alot nicer than Shannon or Dublin anyway. Only thing I would say is the check-in desks look small but I suppose that it will all sort itself out in the future. I'm thinking i'll have to book a cheap flight up to Dublin after it opens to see the depature lounge and all that, Can't wait until November - Too far away, or will it even be open by that stage the way things are going. Just out of curiosity, What airlines will be using the jetway, And will it be like heathrow Terminal 1 where you have to walk through the depatures to get to the arrivals once you come off the plane? All in all though it does look great and I can't wait to see it open - whenever that does happen......
Isn't that what everyone wants to be honest
I came in on EI715 on Tuesday last and was disappointed to see the terminal not open after being in Egypt for 3 weeks. It does look impressive though and I have seen a few pics from inside and they have done it quite tastefully. Alot nicer than Shannon or Dublin anyway. Only thing I would say is the check-in desks look small but I suppose that it will all sort itself out in the future. I'm thinking i'll have to book a cheap flight up to Dublin after it opens to see the depature lounge and all that, Can't wait until November - Too far away, or will it even be open by that stage the way things are going. Just out of curiosity, What airlines will be using the jetway, And will it be like heathrow Terminal 1 where you have to walk through the depatures to get to the arrivals once you come off the plane? All in all though it does look great and I can't wait to see it open - whenever that does happen......
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Originally Posted by ryan2000
It must also be said that Irish people in general did not support Easyjet but invariably travelled to London with Ryanair and Aerlingus.
Their name recognition just didn't penetrate the Irish market and they generally just captured UK originating traffic.
Having said that I am sure they could sustain a daily ORK-LGW service if they really wanted to.
Their name recognition just didn't penetrate the Irish market and they generally just captured UK originating traffic.
Having said that I am sure they could sustain a daily ORK-LGW service if they really wanted to.
Gatwick is a 40 quid cab ride from London...an hour...it's a 40min train ride. Prices from LGW have to be 50 quid better and then add more to justify the time.....LHR only 15 mins from Paddington or 25 mins from say Knightsbridge on all but the busiest times
I know Stansted is miles out too but it's got cheapflights to beat the band where LGW is more charter-city with some cheapos tacked on. Go to Gatwick and you see charter people, go to STN and you see cheap flights people. People are conditioned to go to STN for cheap flights and LHR if time is important. EI flights are really competitive from LHR to be fair. I tried to give EZY from LGW a look-in a few weeks back (been reading too much on here maybe) but it was still better value to fly LHR-SNN and take my chances with the coonagh-dock road drive of shame ! :-) than take EZY to Cork. I reckon they'd have better luck if they did LTN-ORK
Even people living south of the river in London go to LHR....my argument may not be accurate and i do live 15mins from LHR at a walking pace..but I think that's a good stab at why LGW isn't a vote-winner for routes home
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[ sorry for slightly off topic...does anyone know how NOT to get hosed by car hire companies in either Cork or SNN....the prices they charge !!.....the crowd in Cork are ok but SNN take scalps that would make the indians blush...appreciate any input ]
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Opening date!
An ad made by the airport has said that the terminal will open on the 1st of Augest for ARRIVALS and on the 15th for all traffic.
I rung airport and they confirmed this.
An ad made by the airport has said that the terminal will open on the 1st of Augest for ARRIVALS and on the 15th for all traffic.
I rung airport and they confirmed this.
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Originally Posted by ryan2000
It's not going to be easy to get a US service from Cork.
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Its areal pity that EZY have withdrawn from Ireland. But we must remember that FR have a history of defending its Irish routes. Remember GO, any one? There is a very good reason for this, as most of FRs profits come fro Ireland-UK routes. MOL would see beating up easyJet(or whoever) as a wothwhile investment.
On the subject of the terminal, its looking good so far, lets keep the fingers crossed! The airport are advertising their 'superior complex' to teh public at the moment lest hope they are doing the same to DL, US, AA, CO. etc. An American route would be great and really help to broaden the profile of the airport. Time will tell!
On the subject of the terminal, its looking good so far, lets keep the fingers crossed! The airport are advertising their 'superior complex' to teh public at the moment lest hope they are doing the same to DL, US, AA, CO. etc. An American route would be great and really help to broaden the profile of the airport. Time will tell!
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A transatlantic service would be a massive boost as the new terminal opens. However the travelling public in Cork will sink it fast if they continue to use Shannon flights just to save a few bob.
Unlike their counterparts in Dublin, Cork people are much more willing to fly from other Irish Airports if the price is right.
People who constantly flew with Ryanair rather than Easyjet cannot complain if fares now go back to their pre 2004 levels now that the duopoly has been restored on Cork London.
Watch the Ryanair website carefully in the days and weeks ahead.
Unlike their counterparts in Dublin, Cork people are much more willing to fly from other Irish Airports if the price is right.
People who constantly flew with Ryanair rather than Easyjet cannot complain if fares now go back to their pre 2004 levels now that the duopoly has been restored on Cork London.
Watch the Ryanair website carefully in the days and weeks ahead.