ABERDEEN

[CaptainDoony]

They'd be as well packing up now.

Hers the definition of a token presence:

1x weekly 98 seater to Reus and a 2x YEARLY service to Tenerife.

[Heathrow Harry]

with the falling passenger numbers at least we might be able to get a beer from the airside bar in less than 20 minutes

[CabinCrewe]

seems said 'volatility' is only affecting ABZ... as DLM freely available from everywhere else. #copout

[Richard Taylor]

Yes CC, I did think it was a convenient smokescreen... but not smokey enough to see the real reason.

Cook should just withdraw totally.

[SWBKCB]

as DLM freely available from everywhere else

But at what level compared to previous years?

[Ametyst1]

Bookings to Turkey from the UK are down about 40% down this summer. I know that flights from Leeds-Bradford and Cardiff have been cancelled too.

Thomson Holidays, Thomas Cook Holidays and British Airways have all reduced/or cut routes to Turkey for Summer 2016.

[Heathrow Harry]

the real danger is that in a long recession in Aberdeen BA will cut the number of flights to LHR - and once they've gone I doubt they'll ever come back........................

[deecie]

the real opportunity is that in a long recession in Aberdeen BA will cut the number of flights to LHR - and once they've gone I doubt they'll ever come back........................

Leaving, more passengers for AF/KLM/Lufthansa/easyJet - who have all cut back already.

But positivity is a scarce attribute at the best of times in Aberdeen, never-mind right now.

[cg78]

Diversion LH974

Does anyone knows why tonight's LH974 FRA-ABZ turned back just north of Amsterdam and returned to FRA?

[Big Tudor]

Originally Posted by CabinCrewe

seems said 'volatility' is only affecting ABZ... as DLM freely available from everywhere else. #copout

TUI announced only a few weeks ago that their bookings to Turkey were down 40%, so volatility is not confined to one airport or one operator. And today's bombing in Ankara, whilst not close to the big tourist areas, will do little to restore travellers confidence. More likely to drive bookings even lower.

[Richard Taylor]

Correct Deecie, & I would think twice about the oil industry as a career choice for today's school leavers up here. Many made redundant may also think twice about returning if there ever is a pick up again - although no doubt some may do.

Let's put it this way - if I had the money I would get the hell out of the place & not return; it's dying on it's arse & there are very few Sir Ian Wood's out there trying to revive it. I wouldn't trust any politician whose lips move.

A lack of foresight to diversify & being taken for granted are now being brought into very sharp focus.

More jobs/less unemployment - except here
More hotel occupancy & revenue - except here
More flights & routes - except - well you get the picture.

[CaptainDoony]

2015 (Grim(2016 to be even grimmer)) Full Year Data for ABZ:

Domestic:

LHR / 726745 / -6.5
MAN / 202495 / -10.5
LGW / 163184 / +0.8
LSI / 144254 / -5.2
SCS / 143022 / -10.7
BHX / 115812 / -7.4
LTN / 71254 / -4.4
LCY / 63343 / +0.3
NWI / 50650 / -15.8
KOI / 48347 / -1.5
BHD / 40026 / +6.9
HUY / 30218 / -17.4
MME / 28203 / -19.5
BRS / 26447 / -16.8
NCL / 20775 / -31.1
JER / 17896
EMA / 15359 / -8.0
SOU / 13884 / -0.5
WIC / 12814 / -11.0
CWL / 10559 / -17.9
LBA / 9226 / +31.7
SYY / 5523 / -11.2

International:

AMS / 306004 / -0.4
FRA / 151684 / -7.6
SVG / 116837 / -15.5
CDG / 110739 / +0.2
CPH / 50838 / -4.2
BGO / 43964 / -15.2
DUB / 40467 / -14.4
OSL / 36075 / +17.1
PMI / 28163
TFS / 26040 / -20.2
DLM / 19247
GDN / 18118
EBJ / 9991 / -16.5
CFU / 7427
FAO / 6953
BOJ / 5638
IBZ / 5519
GVA / 4377
AGP / 4246
REU / 3025
ENF / 376 (So the Santa Charter went out full)

[jfy1999]

According to this PDF from Airlineroute, Thomson were to operate a one-off 787 flight to Dalaman on May 5, although I'd be surprised if it's still on:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6e...hwZlo2SXc/view

[CaptainDoony]

I can't think of any possible reason why they would use a 787 out of ABZ!

That said, I do note that it leaves at 0900 on that date instead of the afternoon departure it seems to be down to operate for the rest of the Summer season. Obviously not sure if this is related or not.

Edit: Also, I've just noticed that there is no return flight planned on that date which does suggest it won't be the ASL 73G. Interesting.

[Richard Taylor]

Cheer up all (incl me!) - Air Iceland starts soon

On the other side, CRJ900s will shortly be on all SAS flights, eventually no more 737s. Although I'm not so bothered about that. If the routes are dropped then that is slightly more concerning.........................

[kcockayne]

Can't see anything in Heathrow Harry's post that irritates me to quite the same degree as it irritates you, Hipsway !

[Heathrow Harry]

ABZ has held onto a lot of LHR slots because of the amount of full-fare traffic and connecting traffic to the USA

Now that the oil companies are cutting people, cutting travel and cutting back on the FF fares it becomes less attractive - watch for downsizing of equipment, "technical cancellations" (of non full aircraft) and a gradual cut in frequency - probably starting with the middle of the day flights

[Richard Taylor]

Well there's already a JetTime(?) B737-7 down to operate some freqs in S16.

[ANYWHERE BUT ABZ]

Another huge decline for February, even with an extra day of flying included.

On the other hand central belt airports go from strength to strength

[mrzzzz]

Originally Posted by ANYWHERE BUT ABZ

Another huge decline for February, even with an extra day of flying included.

On the other hand central belt airports go from strength to strength

How's Melbourne mate? You still moaning I see!!