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Old 4th Jun 2006, 18:37
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Turnover isn't everything, it's the bottom line that counts, but I am told the airline industry works on a 7% profit.
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Old 4th Jun 2006, 18:57
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Charter airline ready for take-off
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I wonder who the lucky new owner will be?
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Old 4th Jun 2006, 20:00
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Company valuations

Never bought an airline, but bought/sold several companies.
Valuation is very difficult. There are three ways:
1. Book value (value of assets), usually only used when business is loss-making or in receivership.
2. Future value of free cash flow. Simply, how much the business will make, in today's money, in the future. So what discount factor do you use (inflation/interest rates), and how far into the future do you project? Mainly applicable to contract-backed businesses.
3. Price-earnings multiple. If this years profits are £x, multiply by 6 (for a private company), 10 (for a business with prospects), or 12 if you're selling.

As I said, it's difficult. But if the vendors want to sell, and a buyer wants to buy, they'll find a way!
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Old 4th Jun 2006, 20:22
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Well I think that at least part of the equation has to be the existing slots at LGW, they are becoming rarer and rarer, also the oil contract work is VERY profitable.
I wonder what they will do with the crews, I hope its just a uniform change when its sold
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Old 5th Jun 2006, 08:08
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Pricing a sell

As previous, have never sold an airline. But in the manufacturing sector, where you have fixed assets, on-going contracts and a tangable product or service products (ie not pr-media-consultantcy).

I have always worked on the assets at near fire sale value, possibly with a debt element and a multiple of profit b/t this will depend on the future prospects of the bussines but is normally between 6 and 10 times, 12 would have to be the top end and need a very secure future. Of course all of the above is also important to how much a bank will lend to fund the deal.

As for the airline in question. They do seem to have a niche market and a good repuation / public perception. Some of that must be down to operating reasonable fleet in the middle market (ie not some old 732's feeding from the floor)
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Old 27th Jun 2006, 20:58
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Astraeus

Hey, has anyone heard about Astraeus basing a 737 at PIK for summer 2007, according to the Seguro Holidays booking site the aircraft operates a pretty full schedule, some flights doing a W pattern with Manston. According to the taxiwayalpha site, they are to also do some longer charters to destinations outside of Europe, Egypt? Anyone at Astraeus in the know?
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Old 27th Jun 2006, 22:32
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post I made on Manchester thread -- MAN announced that they would fly to Cape Verde (sal) this winter on Thursdays 737-8
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Old 28th Jun 2006, 08:40
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sorry peakp I meant ex pik
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Old 28th Jun 2006, 17:01
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Gpik

Go to the Astraeus website, then at the bottom of charter flights click on our destinations. No.PIK flights listed though

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Old 28th Jun 2006, 18:30
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There was also talk of basing a 737CL and a NG abroad somewhere.Anyone know any gen on that?
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Old 29th Jun 2006, 22:04
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According to the seguro site there is certainly astreus flights everyday from pik apart from wednesday to TFS,PMI,FAO,ALC and LPA
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Old 14th Jul 2006, 21:48
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ASTRAEUS FOR SALE!!!

Astraeus has been sold........The company will not go public or advise employee's who has aquired the airline until mid August. I just Hope the crew will be looked after in this sale. Is this True?
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Old 14th Jul 2006, 21:54
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Really??? how did you find such info....I see you joined today.Are you cc for astraeus? cheers
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Old 14th Jul 2006, 21:59
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Im CC with aeu, was told yesterday, thought I would see if anyone else had the same information so I joined this thread.
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Old 14th Jul 2006, 22:43
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Astraeus Sale

Astraeus have appointed Cavendish Corporate Finance to negotiate with (unsolicited) would-be buyers.

However, Jonathan Hinkles (Commercial Director) said "Our existing shareholders are happy with the progress of the company and may conclude at the end of this process that we wish to retain the structure as it is"

Source: Airliner World - August 2006
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Old 15th Jul 2006, 00:04
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TRS2 - I wonder how many understand the title? Good ship - well ahead of the times.
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Old 15th Jul 2006, 03:46
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Nothing like getting next month's a bit early eh?
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Old 15th Jul 2006, 07:31
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Go on then, dont keep us hanging in our straps............who does rumour control think is buying Astraeus?.....I'll go with the Post Office for starters, plans to convert all the 75's to Parcel vans and rival DHL, looking good in pillar box red. Great money savings on uniform- pair of Dm's and shorts- finally I get to wear elasticated waistbands again..
But then again...no.
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Old 15th Jul 2006, 09:00
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How about Seguro Travel ? Fast growing package holiday firm who utilise a number of foreign carriers , LTE, Spanair, etc - might be bying Astreus as their 'in-house' airline.
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Old 15th Jul 2006, 10:48
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I heard there is a name change in prospect.

Regards

Mike
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