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Are you saying, people actually PAY to fly from LGW to Canada in a B737??
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ETOPS
There are generally two accepted definitions
Extended Twin (engine) Operations
or
Engines Turning Or Passengers Swimming
Basically, once the reliability of an engine is proven to be of a certain standard the aircraft is allowed to fly further away from its nearest suitable diversion airfield. 120 ETOPS means 2 hours- 180 means 3 hours etc etc. The longer your ETOPS approval the further south you can fly across the Atlantic (or Pacific) nearer to your optimum Great Circle track to your destination or avoiding the eastbound jetstream. Otherwise you have to fly within 60 mins of Scotland/Iceland/Greenland/Canada. A basic definition.
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Extended Twin (engine) Operations
or
Engines Turning Or Passengers Swimming
Basically, once the reliability of an engine is proven to be of a certain standard the aircraft is allowed to fly further away from its nearest suitable diversion airfield. 120 ETOPS means 2 hours- 180 means 3 hours etc etc. The longer your ETOPS approval the further south you can fly across the Atlantic (or Pacific) nearer to your optimum Great Circle track to your destination or avoiding the eastbound jetstream. Otherwise you have to fly within 60 mins of Scotland/Iceland/Greenland/Canada. A basic definition.
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Flights are currently operated with the 737-700 in a 148 seat configuration. The likelihood is that these flights will transfer to the 757-200 aircraft during the summer season.
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tallseabird - further to aeulad's comment (above), all AEU B737-700s are configured with 148 seats. However, the passengers load on the LGW/DeerLake route is capped at something quite a bit less than maximum number of seats ( wherein a figure of just over a 100 people comes to mind ).
ElectroVlasic - AEU B757-200's have at least a 35 inch seat pitch throughout the whole cabin ( and all with business class type seats ). As I presently understand it, AEU's B757's should take over the Deer Lake route toward the end of March ( when it goes to twice a week - with crew layovers !
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ElectroVlasic - AEU B757-200's have at least a 35 inch seat pitch throughout the whole cabin ( and all with business class type seats ). As I presently understand it, AEU's B757's should take over the Deer Lake route toward the end of March ( when it goes to twice a week - with crew layovers !
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Had a look at the humber valley website looks good, how's this route doing? Does anyone know if Astreus accept standby travel or do you have to go through Barwell for an inclusive deal?
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Well, there are plenty of examples of doing meduim-to-long haul with narrowbodies:
OS doing VIE-DXB on 738, that's 5:30
and for a while they been doing VIE-CMB via DXB on the same metal, that's close to 10 hrs plus techstop
BA doing LHR-THR on 321, that's 6:00
BA doing LHR-ADD on 321 with one stop, close to 9 hrs plus techstop
GC doing LGW-BJL on 738, that's 6:00 as well
CO flying to Europe on 757s
When it comes to the charters, hold your breath...
One Scandinavian operator used MD83 to fly from Scandinavia to Carribean, there are plenty of 757s deployed on Europe to Far East routes via DXB or MCT or somewhere else. 757s also not rare on Europe to Florida and even Carribean runs...
It is the market who dictates which equipment is suitable and which is not.
OS doing VIE-DXB on 738, that's 5:30
and for a while they been doing VIE-CMB via DXB on the same metal, that's close to 10 hrs plus techstop
BA doing LHR-THR on 321, that's 6:00
BA doing LHR-ADD on 321 with one stop, close to 9 hrs plus techstop
GC doing LGW-BJL on 738, that's 6:00 as well
CO flying to Europe on 757s
When it comes to the charters, hold your breath...
One Scandinavian operator used MD83 to fly from Scandinavia to Carribean, there are plenty of 757s deployed on Europe to Far East routes via DXB or MCT or somewhere else. 757s also not rare on Europe to Florida and even Carribean runs...
It is the market who dictates which equipment is suitable and which is not.
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Anyone know why Astreus restrict the number of seats to Deer Lake, is it for range or comfort. Can't imagine in this day it's for comfort unless the tickets were priced higher, so must assume 5.58 hours as shown on the flight plan must be at the limits of everthing crew and fuel.
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OLBA18 - It's mostly for a mixture of comfort and for the purposes of complying with ETOPS requirements for floatation rafts ( and the pax capacity thereof ) - though pax throuput at the small airport at YDF and crew duty day do have their part to play.
You might be interested to know that Astraeus regularly operate with 148 pax ( i.e. full ) to Aswan, i.e. there and back on a two sector day, which is a flight which is actually longer than is LGW to Deer Lake, e.g. the Great Circle Route Distances are as follows:
You might be interested to know that Astraeus regularly operate with 148 pax ( i.e. full ) to Aswan, i.e. there and back on a two sector day, which is a flight which is actually longer than is LGW to Deer Lake, e.g. the Great Circle Route Distances are as follows:
- LGW- Deer Lake (YDF / CYDF) = 2144 Nm
- LGW- Aswan ( ASW / HESN) = 2230 Nm
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Actually, in terms of trip distance LGW to Malabo / Equatorial Guinea ( SSG / FGSL ) is even further, i.e. 2879 Nm and is typically in the region of 7 hours non-stop ( albeit flown with usually a light'ish passenger load ).
That said, Malabo is far enough away that when you arrive you have to get off the aircraft and get your head down in a local hotel for a few hours ( which is something of a dubious pleasure
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That said, Malabo is far enough away that when you arrive you have to get off the aircraft and get your head down in a local hotel for a few hours ( which is something of a dubious pleasure
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Wow, over 6 hours each way in the cockpit of a 737. I bet those trips are popular with the pilots
Oh, and not forgetting Berlin to Canaries in DanAir, of course, but there were compensations then
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Just checked my log books and find I flew many sectors in 2001 Scandanavia-Canaries well in excess of 6hour block in a B738 with 27K engines.Typically 6 hours 10 minutes and always with a full load of 189 pax.I remember being amazed at the capability of these small aircraft at the time and always arrived very flush with fuel.Level of pax comfort in charter fit much better than the 75/76 in equivalent fit.Cockpit admittedly a bit cramped for this sort of trip but as we always got off for a few days layover unlike the cabin crew due to Scandic FTLs a rather civilised operation.The NG Boeings if decked out with powerful engines are very range capable which I believe is why my company got them as Airbus we,re very underpowered at the time and couldn,t get the payload/range necessary.
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Astraeus 757 G-OPJB
Does anybody know if there is any reference to this registration.
I have read elsewhere...
G-OPJB
Palmair are believed to be using a Astraeus Aircraft later this year. Is this the Directors initials P J Bath.
Anybody know
I have read elsewhere...
G-OPJB
Palmair are believed to be using a Astraeus Aircraft later this year. Is this the Directors initials P J Bath.
Anybody know