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Old 13th May 2008, 16:05
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Its official

Its now official Loganair have lost the Derry-Dublin PSO to Aer Arann. Will this also mean the end for Derry-Glasgow?
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Old 13th May 2008, 16:17
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I reckon the route will be dropped by Loganair at the end of the PSO contract in July,
pointless operating as the loads were never brilliant. It a was always a commercial bonus to the route network.

At least the Irish are looking out for their own, unlike the Scottish Government with the Ambulance contract.
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Old 14th May 2008, 09:33
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Ryanair have the Prestwick route anyway, which seems to be doing well for them, it would be sad to see loganair go.
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Old 14th May 2008, 15:03
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On the + side will this not free a Saab 340 to operate another route maybe from Dundee or somewhere else any thoughts? Also will it not free up another a/c for another route from GLA if LDY is dropped?

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Old 14th May 2008, 21:57
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I think it was just the one aircraft that done the lot

LDY/DUB/LDY/GLA/LDY/DUB/LDY

Presumably the jaunt to GLA everyday was to enable to aircraft to be swapped over for maintenance etc
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Old 16th May 2008, 17:51
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Will that a/c go to Dundee? or new route to somewhere from GLA or will LDY from GLA continue with another route from Ldy?
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Old 16th May 2008, 23:00
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I know this is quite random but is Logy gonna do a IOM-LCY? I don't know if its possible but now Euromanx has gone, I heard Eastern and Logy going for it.
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Old 17th May 2008, 07:42
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Doubt that Logie will be in a position to do this albeit an ideal scenario after losing the PSO. The Saab340 doesn't have the performance required for LCY.
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Old 17th May 2008, 09:31
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Crossair used to operate Saab 340s into LCY back in the day. I'm sure it's on the list of approved aircraft so Logie could be eyeing this route.
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Old 17th May 2008, 12:41
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As did OLT (operate Saab 340's in LCY that is).
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Old 17th May 2008, 16:05
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Mr Rutter told IOMtoday that Logie were looking into it as Flybe franchise as apparently BE Q400s can't do it.
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Old 17th May 2008, 17:14
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Now that Euromanx have stopped ops IOM-LCY the x 3 per day slots they had will be re-allocated by London City airport.

Slots at LCY cannot be 'traded' only swapped.

umour is that LCY are looking to encourage 70 seat plus for new operations so future IOM - LCY looks doubtful unless VLM incresae Ops or somoneone else already operating at LCY uses their slot for IOM.
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Old 18th May 2008, 11:28
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heard on the grapevine that ricky lake flew in to the iom in his learjet to have talks with the iom gov, as they do not want to lose the iom lcy route, apparently they have requested that the j41 doesnt operate this route.

my guess is u will see a nice saab 2000 very soon!
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Old 18th May 2008, 13:06
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LDY

Can anyone tell me if Loganair have done a codeshare agreement with Aer Arann on the Dublin - Derry route, as I have heard that they still have this route.
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Old 18th May 2008, 15:36
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Slots

Slots do have a time limit on them. If you cancel the same flight on the same day each week more than 3 times within one month you run the risk of losing the slot completely at the end of the season. Formally known as 'use it or lose it' in ops circles. It then reverts back to the airport allocator.
 
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Can anyone tell me if Loganair have done a codeshare agreement with Aer Arann on the Dublin - Derry route, as I have heard that they still have this route.
I don't think so. The flights are for sale on the Aer Arann website and if you look at the flight times, they show the flights being operated by a Dublin based aircraft. Loganair have no aircraft based at Dublin but Aer Arann do.
Unless perhaps Aer Arann are wet leasing a Loganair aircraft and basing it at Dublin?
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Old 18th May 2008, 16:08
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Loganair Glasgow Derry

Has this already been reported, On the BA website From 23rd July there are no more Loganair City of Derry to Glasgow flights, so looks like an end to Loganair on the route.
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Old 18th May 2008, 17:19
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Very suprising...

GLA-LDY route started in 1979 and always had good loads...
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Old 18th May 2008, 19:12
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Can't compete with Ryanair's Glasgow PIK route launched last year though.
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Old 18th May 2008, 20:10
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Probably has more to do with the loss of PSO on LDY-DUB.
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