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Old 29th Dec 2009, 19:31
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Ryanair are building an extension to the existing hanagar or a complete new hangar at PIK. The job of constuction site manager for hangar was advertised and closed 2 weeks ago. The extension is a new bay for 3rd aircraft to park nose in, currently the hangar has space for 2 nose in.Why would ryanair leave PIK when they practically use it for free? and build extension on hangar? Would it open up avenues for new airlines to come to PIK if ryanair left?
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Whats with all the sniping at Glasgow "Abbotsinch" ?
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Old 29th Dec 2009, 20:25
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FR retain a base at PIK due to the route development funding they got when that system still existed. The second that the RDF money stops, you can bet your house that FR will leave PIK.
Ryanair had a base at Glasgow Prestwick long before the Route Funding came along. Route Funding in Scotland ceased many years ago and Ryanair still have a base at Glasgow Prestwick.
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Old 29th Dec 2009, 21:39
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Those suggesting Ryanair will move from PIK to GLA need to get a serious understanding of arithmetic. If FR pay PIK 50p or £1 ish per head, and if the rate at GLA is £15 or £17 ish per head, then even IF GLA charge half price, then FR will still pay 7 to 15 times per head to use GLA instead of PIK. And if GLA charge FR half price, what will BA, BMI, Easyjet, Flybe et all want ? PIK is 30 miles nearer most FR destinations, ie 30 miles less flight time and fuel burn. Often FR land straight in on runway 31, and depart straight out on 13. That in itself is an enormous fuel and cost saving.
Maybe GLA would be better employed getting Brussels Airlines to Brussels, Swiss to Zurich, and Lufthansa to Munich, instead of leaving myself and others to drive to Manchester ?
When I worked for Air Canada at PIK in those summers we peaked at handing 14 Air Canada flights in one day. GLA now can't offer 1 Air Canada flight.
So maybe GLA should focus away from Ryanair and PIK's rail station and look at what business they should be offering but don't.
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with ryanair also building hangar extension at PIK, they are well placed with EDI and PIK to serve west, central, areas. What other airlines could PIK attract to compliment ryanair?
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Those suggesting Ryanair will move from PIK to GLA need to get a serious understanding of arithmetic.
Nobody is suggesting Ryanair will leave Glasgow Prestwick.

If FR pay PIK 50p or £1 ish per head, and if the rate at GLA is £15 or £17 ish per head, then even IF GLA charge half price, then FR will still pay 7 to 15 times per head to use GLA instead of PIK. And if GLA charge FR half price, what will BA, BMI, Easyjet, Flybe et all want ?
BA, BMI, Easyjet, FlyBe etc will continue to pay what they do now. That would not change. When FR went to EDI, did BA, BMI etc demand the same prices as Ryanair? I doubt it. The same scenario is in place at airports Europe wide, where FR are not the only carrier. So why would GLA be the exception?

Maybe GLA would be better employed getting Brussels Airlines to Brussels, Swiss to Zurich, and Lufthansa to Munich, instead of leaving myself and others to drive to Manchester ?
From PIK's point of view yes. But BAA may feel differently. Only BAA know. At this moment in time BAA don't seem interested in any airlines at GLA.

Why would you drive down to Manchester if a flight is on offer from GLA? That seems rather silly, tbh.

So maybe GLA should focus away from Ryanair and PIK's rail station and look at what business they should be offering but don't.
Agreed! Amanda McMillan’s rant on the PIK Rail Link seemed desperate. Funny how it comes just after GLA lost its Rail Link. Maybe she’s feeling jealous.
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Old 29th Dec 2009, 22:14
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with ryanair also building hangar extension at PIK, they are well placed with EDI and PIK to serve west, central, areas. What other airlines could PIK attract to compliment ryanair?
Wizz Air to Prague would be a good start.
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Old 29th Dec 2009, 22:15
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gran canaria, thomsons, 900 quid cheaper from manchester than glasgow, 2 days of a difference.
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Old 29th Dec 2009, 22:17
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would aggree with wizz air, flybe?
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Old 29th Dec 2009, 22:22
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would aggree with wizz air, flybe?
With PIK-JER now on offer, if it proves successful they might well add some new routes. It's hard to say what routes but I would personally love and use a PIK-LGW route.
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My mistake its derry x 4 weekly
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 18:12
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You said ''When FR went to EDI, did BA, BMI etc demand the same prices as Ryanair? I doubt it.'' Ryanair one would guess would be paying what for them would be a premium to be in EDI. Amusing in that they bleat and squeal about charges in many places, but when it suits them they quietly pay. I doubt that they would be willing to pay a premium at GLA when they don't need to because they fly from PIK. Hence they would seek large reductions in charges, so why would BA, BMI, Easyjet, Flybe et all, sit and watch that happen ?

Why would I drive down to Manchester if a flight is on offer from GLA? They aren't. Not with any airlines non-stop, and not with those airlines, who were providing the tickets, for work reasons.


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Whats with all the sniping at Glasgow "Abbotsinch" ?
Sniping? I'm 72 and it is and always will be Abbotsinch..if you mean I'm having a go at it, is criticism forbidden in this forum?
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 19:50
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Air france landed 2day at PIK with a hole punctured under starboard wing, possible ice strike on landing
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 21:17
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Crosswind element today as well of 20knots+ at times
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 21:30
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21/03 an ice rink! hotel and golf also, runway good, anti frost down,
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I thought the RDF funding had stopped?
Scottish Airline? Surely FR are currently the busiest with Scottish bases?
Or do they have to be based at Abbotsinch to earn the "Scottish" description?
RDF continues to be paid to routes that were funded before the scheme was stopped by EU rules. FR set up home at PIK in the old days due in part to the subsidies and RDF they received and continue to receive. No new routes are able to enjoy this benefit.

Are you suggesting that FR should be Scotland's national airline??

Where in my post did even mention Glasgow? You do seem a little sensitive Mr Curry.

Scotland deserves it's own airline - AND RYANAIR SHOULD NOT BE IT!!!
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 21:49
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Presumably EDI remains Turnhouse but only to the elderly who remember when it was all fields! When I was up for xmas only Apron A was in use and it still had snow and ice everywhere. There has been no attempt to deice many of the links and the cross runway is not available. You get what you pay for. Wasn't too impressed with the new layout in the lounge as it now has less daylight.
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Old 30th Dec 2009, 21:56
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departure lounge was meant to be a 1.7mil investment, cut down to 1mil, 2.5 mil pax the next target to trigger further up grades and refurbishment to terminal, think that might be a year or 2 down the line
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Scotland deserves it's own airline - AND RYANAIR SHOULD NOT BE IT!!!
Have you ever heard of Loganair?

And if you hadn't heard, Scotland's most recent Jet carrier, flyglobespan went ( . )( . )'s up a couple of weeks ago!!!!!
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