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Old 15th Jul 2006, 10:44
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NEW GM?

anyone heard about AB getting a new General manager in the UK?
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Old 15th Jul 2006, 15:11
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saw an air berlin plane on stand at stn other day with tui winglets any one tell why?
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Grrr

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yes like that
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Old 15th Jul 2006, 20:15
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http://www.airspacemag.com/ASM/Mag/I...1/AS/htww.html

Winglets explained.
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Old 15th Jul 2006, 20:18
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No disrespect Moderator, but I think we all know what winglets are for- the discussion was regarding specifically why there were TUI winglets on an Air Berlin aircraft. A perfectly reasonable discussion IMO.
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Old 15th Jul 2006, 22:03
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Originally Posted by turnipgreen
anyone heard about AB getting a new General manager in the UK?
Not sure about a new GM but you're definitely getting a new UK S&M director. Used to be with VLM and SABRE so I understand.
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Old 19th Jul 2006, 09:01
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Story behind the winglets is it was a lightening strike that damaged both winglets (in one side, out the other).

AB have no spares, Hapag did.

No big deal but a bit expensive.
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Old 7th Aug 2006, 05:07
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just following easyjet's lead I suppose.
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Old 7th Aug 2006, 07:02
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I can only think that it,s in the deal that Airbus give on product suport as I suspect that you could not find a lot of diference between the B737NG and the A320 in fuel burn.

No doubt the Americans will scream about goverment suport for the european industry wile forgetting about the very big defence contracts that help maintain the Boeing infastructure.
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Old 7th Aug 2006, 07:25
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A V B

15 love Airbus

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Old 7th Aug 2006, 07:27
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...and one of the things I can't figure out is that how come if ...
The answer is Money!! In whatever way the deal has been done, they perceive that it will save them money over the alternatives. If they wanted to expand and then found that it was cheaper to change equipment, then that's what they are going to do. The change may be painful but it will make sense on paper.
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Old 7th Aug 2006, 07:40
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Might also have something to do with availability. Recent experience shows delivery slots for A320s are much better than for 737s. And not too many used 737NGs on the market either.
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Old 7th Aug 2006, 07:47
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I think the fact that they are buying shiney new airplanes also has something to do with the tax/accountig laws in Germany (EU?)...Maybe nothing to do with the Airbus Q, but I think if you have commitments for investments, in the future, you can start writing of taxes on those loans/leases already now...IE you can use investments, that you still have not paid for, to brighten up not so good (?) looking financial reports, or make good reports look even better, by buying/replacing your fleet like there is no tomorrow...
Not sure what happans when you stop expanding/stop buying new airplanes..
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Old 7th Aug 2006, 08:47
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Originally Posted by MarkD
just following easyjet's lead I suppose.
Well, at least Air Berlin were smart enough to order 320´s instead of 319 with 4 overwing exits and 156 seats which requires an extra 4th FA.
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Originally Posted by eurocan
One of the things I can't figure out is that how come If they've had a 737 fleet for years , they've decided to change that and go with A320's. Doesn't that mean double cost for maintenance providing support to A320's and 737's as well as double tasking between the needs of one with another?

There is only one alternative - forever operate Boeing 737s which, if it is a known policy, certainly does not guarantee a good deal from your then only supplier when it comes to renewing your fleet....
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Old 7th Aug 2006, 16:16
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Hey

Just a little bit of info regarding a earlier post saying it would be a B737-700 operating the STN-GLA flights. Its often a B737NG operating this route. it has begun to be more and more the F100's, but too start with and still is oprated alot with the B737NG.

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Old 17th Aug 2006, 05:56
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Air Berlin buys DBA for 120 M €..

Yesterday Air Berlin has bought it's competitor DBA ( 29 aircraft..) for 120 M €
They financed the deal by proper cash without any loans.Question now is what will happen with LTU,which have focussed on long-haul flughts ans which is onwed by Rudolf Wöhrl,the previous owner of DBA.It could mean that AB will start long haul operations in a not too far future.
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Old 17th Aug 2006, 07:26
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Originally Posted by beaucaire
Yesterday Air Berlin has bought it's competitor DBA ( 29 aircraft..) for 120 M €
They financed the deal by proper cash without any loans.Question now is what will happen with LTU,which have focussed on long-haul flughts ans which is onwed by Rudolf Wöhrl,the previous owner of DBA.It could mean that AB will start long haul operations in a not too far future.
dba is no direct competitor. They have totally different route systems.
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Old 17th Aug 2006, 09:48
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So 29 aircraft for 120 million euros. So is this cheap or did Easy get ripped off buying Go?
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