LSZH, worst airport in Europe?
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: UK
Age: 52
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It does have fairly poor ATC - frequently high and fast approaches (not just my flying) - I have been asked on a number of occasions to fly orbits due poor vectoring.
This breaking action 'unreliable' is a joke - yes I understand that you can't get a reading on wet snow - but please stop calling a wet/damp runway wet snow - get off your @rses and update the info - otherwise some a/c are limited to 5 kts
x-wind component!
Talking of which - how many times have you been given a tower wind of 150/10 on rwy 14 and found out on T/D that it was actually 320/15 !
And as for slots, why do you always seem to go at the end of the 10min extension to your slot, whilst local traffic streams ahead of you.
But apart from the above - it's a joy to operate into / out of ! Apart from the
VOR on 28!
This breaking action 'unreliable' is a joke - yes I understand that you can't get a reading on wet snow - but please stop calling a wet/damp runway wet snow - get off your @rses and update the info - otherwise some a/c are limited to 5 kts
x-wind component!
Talking of which - how many times have you been given a tower wind of 150/10 on rwy 14 and found out on T/D that it was actually 320/15 !
And as for slots, why do you always seem to go at the end of the 10min extension to your slot, whilst local traffic streams ahead of you.
But apart from the above - it's a joy to operate into / out of ! Apart from the
VOR on 28!
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Blighty
Posts: 568
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have to say I hated the place and when my previous employer stopped going there it was a massive relief...
Poor vectoring, often tail winds on approach but what got me more than anything else was missing my slot before it even started...
A reality check is needed...
I hope I never have to go there again in my entire life...
Tchuss
Poor vectoring, often tail winds on approach but what got me more than anything else was missing my slot before it even started...
A reality check is needed...
I hope I never have to go there again in my entire life...
Tchuss
Trent900 - THINK BIG
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: London
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Whilst I cannot comment on the aspects involving commercial flying (as I'm still GA and studying my JAA ATPL in the UK) I would like to just point out to the heavy metal driving folk here what an absolute joy ZH is to use for private VFR flights. In a Turbo Arrow (HB-PQG) landing fees are equivalent to +/- GBP20 and the service, facilities can rarely be matched IMHO anywhere in the UK except if using an extortionately expensive handling agent at an equivalently busy & large international airport. (Including Follow-me car & Lollypop man/woman).
Secondly, if you've had the opportunity to walk round to the General Aviation Centre (GAC) which houses the biz jet side facilities too – you’ll know that the facilities are first class. The service is always helpful, friendly & professional.
As for the ATC; if those guys are not too busy and you take the opportunity to brief them of your intentions in advance + get their feedback they will do their utmost to accommodate where possible. Again back home the aviation-2-class-warfare between commercial and grassroots (GA) traffic divides minds at operational airport management levels and ATC. (Yes it’s the money & politics).
Nevertheless, the ZH Tower has been known to open up the 3 runways even for VFR circuits... i.e. using half of one RWY i.e. 34 to land with immediate 180 turn and t/off from RWY 16 to land on another RWY i.e. 28 or Hotel approach on 14/32 to save taxiing around the airport and practice different approaches! [It happened to me]. Similarly, only this Friday I had the typical kind treatment from ZH Tower when flying within the ZH/TMA zone across areas not always/normally open at lower altitudes for the likes of GA because circumstances allowed it and ZH ATC continue to see the bigger picture… which despite all the rhetoric, ever impeding red-tape and restrictive culture of European aviation (Commercial & GA) is an absolute pleasure and beneficial learning experience to the humble commercial student pilot such as myself.
Well done LSZH.
EG
Secondly, if you've had the opportunity to walk round to the General Aviation Centre (GAC) which houses the biz jet side facilities too – you’ll know that the facilities are first class. The service is always helpful, friendly & professional.
As for the ATC; if those guys are not too busy and you take the opportunity to brief them of your intentions in advance + get their feedback they will do their utmost to accommodate where possible. Again back home the aviation-2-class-warfare between commercial and grassroots (GA) traffic divides minds at operational airport management levels and ATC. (Yes it’s the money & politics).
Nevertheless, the ZH Tower has been known to open up the 3 runways even for VFR circuits... i.e. using half of one RWY i.e. 34 to land with immediate 180 turn and t/off from RWY 16 to land on another RWY i.e. 28 or Hotel approach on 14/32 to save taxiing around the airport and practice different approaches! [It happened to me]. Similarly, only this Friday I had the typical kind treatment from ZH Tower when flying within the ZH/TMA zone across areas not always/normally open at lower altitudes for the likes of GA because circumstances allowed it and ZH ATC continue to see the bigger picture… which despite all the rhetoric, ever impeding red-tape and restrictive culture of European aviation (Commercial & GA) is an absolute pleasure and beneficial learning experience to the humble commercial student pilot such as myself.
Well done LSZH.
EG
Last edited by egld0624; 7th Mar 2006 at 10:20.
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Danger - Deep Excavation
Posts: 338
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Snow?
Did someone say bad snow clearing at the start of this thread?
There was 54cm (FIFTY-FOUR cm) over the weekend - in March!
Zürich coped far better than most. Delays? Yes of course, but realistic new STDs published in a timely manner to the pax. Cancellations? Yes a few. But LHR would still be closed now!
There was 54cm (FIFTY-FOUR cm) over the weekend - in March!
Zürich coped far better than most. Delays? Yes of course, but realistic new STDs published in a timely manner to the pax. Cancellations? Yes a few. But LHR would still be closed now!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: France, why do you think I have this ouuuutrageous accent?
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Great place, Zürich airport. Only airport I know where there are two big parking lots at the end of the runway, with bars where you can enjoy a beer and a wurstel while watching landing aircrafts on a sunny afternoon...or long legged swissesses jogging or rollerskating 
