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Learjet50 - it is any excuse unfortunately and I for one will not tolerate it either. I often defend the airline because for their faults, I know they do an excellent job the rest of the time. It is just a shame that those who appear to have little understanding of running an airline continually batter a company which has so far proved they can be succesful because people will and do fly with them.
Aurigny is a state owned airline and therefore no matter what they do they will always be the little brother - you know the one where the sun shines out his backside no matter what. I would be interested to know if any skis or bags were ever left behind when they use to use the ATR on the GNB flights.........
Bellyair, I would argue your suggestion that they need to improve on customer service. I do agree with those that say the E175 is being brought in to entice passengers away from GR, it makes sense because that is what happened back in the good old 146 days (lovely little plane) Passengers preferred a jet service and this is mirrored on the Isle of Man who were very sad to see their only jet service go following the BA Connect acquisition. At the end of the day its competition and the best will win - be it BE or GR. Although it is worth bearing in mind that so far, both have managed to compete so maybe there is room for both???
Moving forward, as this is afterall the GR thread, can anyone confirm why GR dont expand in to the European market? I know they have tried and failed to sustain routes in the past such as Paris and Grenoble but have they ever considerd a triangle service to say AMS via JER?? I wonder if there would be sufficient demand??
Aurigny is a state owned airline and therefore no matter what they do they will always be the little brother - you know the one where the sun shines out his backside no matter what. I would be interested to know if any skis or bags were ever left behind when they use to use the ATR on the GNB flights.........
Bellyair, I would argue your suggestion that they need to improve on customer service. I do agree with those that say the E175 is being brought in to entice passengers away from GR, it makes sense because that is what happened back in the good old 146 days (lovely little plane) Passengers preferred a jet service and this is mirrored on the Isle of Man who were very sad to see their only jet service go following the BA Connect acquisition. At the end of the day its competition and the best will win - be it BE or GR. Although it is worth bearing in mind that so far, both have managed to compete so maybe there is room for both???
Moving forward, as this is afterall the GR thread, can anyone confirm why GR dont expand in to the European market? I know they have tried and failed to sustain routes in the past such as Paris and Grenoble but have they ever considerd a triangle service to say AMS via JER?? I wonder if there would be sufficient demand??
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I agree with learjet50... Isn't it funny how those occasional incidents out of over 2,000 flights per week that Flybe operate seem to come up again and again?
Flybe may not be everyone's cup of tea but the fact is they're a successful business that employ several thousand hard working people, who despite what some may say, try their hardest to keep passengers happy while doing their best to keep the company viable and profitable.
Yes, Flybe sometimes get it wrong and on occasion deserve criticism... but doesn't every airline get it wrong from time to time? What about the hundreds of Flybe flights carrying thousands of happy passengers every day that go without a hitch? Lets keep things in perspective.
The fact is you can never please everyone all of the time. Sometimes it's difficult to please the travelling public any of the time!
And for the record, I am a Flybe employee and shareholder and proud of it. Deliberate misinformation is not a Flybe policy and is not something I have ever witnessed.
Flybe may not be everyone's cup of tea but the fact is they're a successful business that employ several thousand hard working people, who despite what some may say, try their hardest to keep passengers happy while doing their best to keep the company viable and profitable.
Yes, Flybe sometimes get it wrong and on occasion deserve criticism... but doesn't every airline get it wrong from time to time? What about the hundreds of Flybe flights carrying thousands of happy passengers every day that go without a hitch? Lets keep things in perspective.
The fact is you can never please everyone all of the time. Sometimes it's difficult to please the travelling public any of the time!
And for the record, I am a Flybe employee and shareholder and proud of it. Deliberate misinformation is not a Flybe policy and is not something I have ever witnessed.
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Hi Cloud, you may remember Coates declaring that Aurigny was stagnant - arguably, he was right. There was a lot of flak for GCI - AMS, which failed rather and since, one can't help but get the impression that the airline has been somewhat timid. Except for the new ATRs and the reinstatement of routes that accompanied them, the airline has changed little since 2004 (except the Shed and 340s are now gone). It may be that as a loss making carrier, the States are not willing to back further expansion or it may be that a Dinard route is all that MH wishes to have to do with Europe. However, looking at Guernsey Airlines' network in the late 1980s, you see routes spanning the CI, England, Scotland, Ireland and France. Perhaps Aurigny is missing some markets??
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Granted, but since 2004 through a period of rationalisation GR now has a much stronger base upon which to expand. Management seem acutely aware that they need this expansion to return to profitability by benefiting from economies of scale etc. Seem to be looking at what additional activities they can take on, be it passenger or freight related. Unfortunately being state owned it suffers from a chronic shortage of investment-quite a hindering factor
On another note- shame to see such a reduction in STN services to facilitate the 6th LGR rotation, JER-STN numbers seemed to be doing really well.
On another note- shame to see such a reduction in STN services to facilitate the 6th LGR rotation, JER-STN numbers seemed to be doing really well.
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Yes; however you illustrated your point about lack of funding when you said they are reducing STN frequencies in favour of LGW. JER - STN naturally operates in competition with FlyBe's JER - LTN, would be interesting to know which does better in terms of load factors. Maybe two more ATRs (even if they were 200s) would solve Aurigny's problems - what is the status of the Air Wales examples? I see they are owned by
but have Aurigny sold them and leased them back?
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Unfortunately being state owned it suffers from a chronic shortage of investment-quite a hindering factor
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The two ex Air Wales ATR 42's were never owned by Aurigny.
G-CDFF was chartered and used by them for a while. It is now operated by First Air in Canada.
G-SSEA arrived for maintenance and was stored in Guernsey for quite some time, it was never used by Aurigny. It is now operated by Aer Arann.
The two ex Air Wales ATR 42's were never owned by Aurigny.
G-CDFF was chartered and used by them for a while. It is now operated by First Air in Canada.
G-SSEA arrived for maintenance and was stored in Guernsey for quite some time, it was never used by Aurigny. It is now operated by Aer Arann.
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Geo73, thanks for the clarification - I know that for some time they were operated on the Aurigny AOC with stickers saying 'Operated by Aurigny'.
Will be interesting to see what Aurigny does next - anyone join me in thinking that it will just keep simmering away the way it is, waiting for the economy recovery and a subsequent decrease in losses/increase in profits?
Will be interesting to see what Aurigny does next - anyone join me in thinking that it will just keep simmering away the way it is, waiting for the economy recovery and a subsequent decrease in losses/increase in profits?
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Will be interesting to see what Aurigny does next - anyone join me in thinking that it will just keep simmering away the way it is, waiting for the economy recovery and a subsequent decrease in losses/increase in profits?
Now, where did I put that "I've Flown in JOEY" certificate?
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Sloppy journalism (not that we ever see that):
Aurigny denies safety risk, but ATRs need early frame replacement News Travel This Is Guernsey
Or is there more to it?
Aurigny denies safety risk, but ATRs need early frame replacement News Travel This Is Guernsey
Or is there more to it?
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According to the Guernsey Press, both ATRs needed frame replacement work carried out. No mention of a cause common to both aircraft, although apparently G-COBO had a drill bit found under the floor left there in the manufacturing process. This had rusted (presumably this was of steel), and had caused (bimetallic?) corrosion of the frames it touched, which would otherwise have been OK.
Sounds as if the very specific "foreign object" damage on G-COBO was only local, but it would be very interesting to know what the more general problem was with the frames on both.
Can't say I noticed anything rattling under the floor on my flights in G-COBO to date!!!
Sounds as if the very specific "foreign object" damage on G-COBO was only local, but it would be very interesting to know what the more general problem was with the frames on both.
Can't say I noticed anything rattling under the floor on my flights in G-COBO to date!!!
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Job losses announces
16 redundancies announced at Aurignys engineering division Anglo Normandy. That's quite a large percentage of the total staff I would imagine.
Job losses at Aurigny - Guernsey News from ITV Channel Television - channelonline.tv
Job losses at Aurigny - Guernsey News from ITV Channel Television - channelonline.tv