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I suppose it could be worse, they could have ended up with the ex Slovak Airlines B767-200 (reg' OM-NSH) that spent more time sitting at Brum than it did flying
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I apologise for sounding a bit dismissive on the subject. What I am trying to hit on is the welfare of people who book with flywho. What about all the people that have been trying to book flights for the last 2 years. Are FW reliable? Will the flights go ahead? Why take the risk of booking with them for it all to go down the plug hole before the first flight even takes off!?!
I have no doubt that there is some kind of a market for BHX-Orlando on a scheduled basis, but when one would be spending hundreds of pounds, is it guaranteed that we would get what we have paid for?
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Mike
I have no doubt that there is some kind of a market for BHX-Orlando on a scheduled basis, but when one would be spending hundreds of pounds, is it guaranteed that we would get what we have paid for?
Regards
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I certainly heard the price reason for FCA at NEMA. Not sure if it is true. I would imagine that NEMA were pretty desperate to attract long haul passenger flights after years without one and previous short lived flights to Orlando, Toronto and India. Good luck to them.
As to Flywho as the saying goes "lest's wait and see."
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As to Flywho as the saying goes "lest's wait and see."
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I am a bear, so I am simple. British Airways parked their 500's in the desert years ago.
Why, because no other airline wanted them and they were beyond their economic life? Some European airlines have used 1011's since, not many survive using them regularly, even daily?
Well that was true until now, a new lo-co will operate Birmingham to Sanford and St Pete's charging £99 one way..........Err no....not £99 each way, more like £200-£300 and the rest!
Risk my hard earned dosh with Flywho.....no way, my money will be spent on those that are most likely to get me there..and then back again according to their past history.
Why, because no other airline wanted them and they were beyond their economic life? Some European airlines have used 1011's since, not many survive using them regularly, even daily?
Well that was true until now, a new lo-co will operate Birmingham to Sanford and St Pete's charging £99 one way..........Err no....not £99 each way, more like £200-£300 and the rest!
Risk my hard earned dosh with Flywho.....no way, my money will be spent on those that are most likely to get me there..and then back again according to their past history.
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Could this scheme be similiar to the Antipodean Air Charter one.
AAC was an airline based in Brighton UK. Established in 2004, a start-up airline planning to operate charter services to Australia and Florida from the UK, as well as ad hoc, VIP and inclusive tour charter services using Tristar aircraft. Its main bases were going to be LGW and MAN.
Believe the person behind that one was due for a court appearance this month
AAC was an airline based in Brighton UK. Established in 2004, a start-up airline planning to operate charter services to Australia and Florida from the UK, as well as ad hoc, VIP and inclusive tour charter services using Tristar aircraft. Its main bases were going to be LGW and MAN.
Believe the person behind that one was due for a court appearance this month
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I was going to write about how they've been banging on about ATOLs for a while but still haven't got one. But then I checked and low and behold, they actually do! Go Visit Ltd ATOL
That aside, if they're seriously starting in June (as BHX have announced themselves) then where is the:
a) online booking
b) advertisement
They need a hell alot of advertisement if they're going to fill aircraft by June, and so far I've seen, well, none.
And who is going to operate the L1011s? Must be one of the Portugese operators?
That aside, if they're seriously starting in June (as BHX have announced themselves) then where is the:
a) online booking
b) advertisement
They need a hell alot of advertisement if they're going to fill aircraft by June, and so far I've seen, well, none.
And who is going to operate the L1011s? Must be one of the Portugese operators?
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Originally Posted by jmc757
That aside, if they're seriously starting in June (as BHX have announced)
Originally Posted by jmc757
They need a hell alot of advertisement if they're going to fill aircraft by June, and so far I've seen, well, none.
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Having checked the details of Go Visits ATOL on line
For the last 2 quarters of 2006 Go Viist are bonded for less than 1200 PAX over the 6 months ......
Now scheduled airlines dont need an ATOL but .....
It seems very strange that once again FlyWho are about tolaunch
sadly on previous form I wont believe it till i see an aircraft take off from BHX with a FlyWho flight prefix !
For the last 2 quarters of 2006 Go Viist are bonded for less than 1200 PAX over the 6 months ......
Now scheduled airlines dont need an ATOL but .....
It seems very strange that once again FlyWho are about tolaunch
sadly on previous form I wont believe it till i see an aircraft take off from BHX with a FlyWho flight prefix !
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Hiya guys
No, Not Flywho, flyblue again, this old one appears every spring time, like a lot people say on here, beleive it when i see an AIRCRAFT
I thought this company had gone for good, now they are back to haunt us again.
Bye
Mike
No, Not Flywho, flyblue again, this old one appears every spring time, like a lot people say on here, beleive it when i see an AIRCRAFT
I thought this company had gone for good, now they are back to haunt us again.
Bye
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Not confused at all.
Shame you missed the only really good "longish haul" service....there are no real long haul ex BHX.
I use UAE regularly and a great service with good connenctions if you're going east.
I wonder how many on these forums would use the other operators on your list daza - I sure wouldn't. Having gone across the pond twice on a 757, I decided that was once too often - it is if you like comfort!
Best long haul from BHX is via DXB, AMS and CDG.
VP-BKZ is about the only plane that achieves long haul regularly! Like Beijing non stop.
Shame you missed the only really good "longish haul" service....there are no real long haul ex BHX.
I use UAE regularly and a great service with good connenctions if you're going east.
I wonder how many on these forums would use the other operators on your list daza - I sure wouldn't. Having gone across the pond twice on a 757, I decided that was once too often - it is if you like comfort!
Best long haul from BHX is via DXB, AMS and CDG.
VP-BKZ is about the only plane that achieves long haul regularly! Like Beijing non stop.
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L1011-500 BHX-Florida. Madness, raving looney madness.
L1011 = Gas guzzler and with fuel at the price it is why even consider operating one of these
L1011 = Highly un-reliable. Someone will be making a killing on AOG spares to keep the old crate from sitting on the ground for ever. Better train your ops guys in looking for the best brokers when it comes to trying to find a replacement aircraft.
If you end up with one of the Portugese ones you will be fleeced. They're not cheap and I bet you will do an acmi deal with them.
The only way flywhen will encourage pax to sit in clapped out un-reliable environmentally un friendly aircraft is with very cheap seats. So given the high operating costs of the aircraft where's the contribution going to come from?
EM
L1011 = Gas guzzler and with fuel at the price it is why even consider operating one of these
L1011 = Highly un-reliable. Someone will be making a killing on AOG spares to keep the old crate from sitting on the ground for ever. Better train your ops guys in looking for the best brokers when it comes to trying to find a replacement aircraft.
If you end up with one of the Portugese ones you will be fleeced. They're not cheap and I bet you will do an acmi deal with them.
The only way flywhen will encourage pax to sit in clapped out un-reliable environmentally un friendly aircraft is with very cheap seats. So given the high operating costs of the aircraft where's the contribution going to come from?
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It's not an arguement; merely an observation. you appear to have a opposite position to most of the contributors to this thread. I would be interested to know why or what you know that the rest of don't?
Cheers
EM
It's not an arguement; merely an observation. you appear to have a opposite position to most of the contributors to this thread. I would be interested to know why or what you know that the rest of don't?
Cheers
EM
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Originally Posted by Epsilon minus
FP17
It's not an arguement; merely an observation. you appear to have a opposite position to most of the contributors to this thread. I would be interested to know why or what you know that the rest of don't?
Cheers
EM
It's not an arguement; merely an observation. you appear to have a opposite position to most of the contributors to this thread. I would be interested to know why or what you know that the rest of don't?
Cheers
EM
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The sad fact of the matter is this, and regardless of what the BHX Airport site and Flywho's own site say, Flywho will never get off the ground in July, this year or next. Their business plan (of which I have not seen, but don't need to), is already flawed by the fact they are now looking at L1011's. These aircraft were superb in their day, i.e. 70's and 80's but they have gone past their sell by date, especially for passenger operations.
Changing the company name from Flyblu to Flywho changes nothing else except that, the name. If the people running this so called new start up are professionals, they would have waited to have all their soldiers lined up before making any announcement. All they have done so far is design a website, make numerous announcements about launching, delayed those launches, changed their name, changed aircraft types to be used 3 times and no doubt that will change again in due course too. The next thing will be another name change to something even more daft
Bored now
Changing the company name from Flyblu to Flywho changes nothing else except that, the name. If the people running this so called new start up are professionals, they would have waited to have all their soldiers lined up before making any announcement. All they have done so far is design a website, make numerous announcements about launching, delayed those launches, changed their name, changed aircraft types to be used 3 times and no doubt that will change again in due course too. The next thing will be another name change to something even more daft
Bored now