BACitiExpress The final solution!
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nope, in fact the BMI Regional Embraers are some of the last routes on the BD network where you get full service, and there are none of the 'tiny' fares.
Yes there are, well atleast on EDI-MAN there are... Enjoyable flight it was too...
GoEDI well they may have cheep fares but, correct me if im wrong, i'm sure you still get a full service...choice of drinks and a lovely pannini.
and they're still making a profit (so they say).
nope, in fact the BMI Regional Embraers are some of the last routes on the BD network where you get full service, and there are none of the 'tiny' fares.
Yes there are, well atleast on EDI-MAN there are... Enjoyable flight it was too...
GoEDI well they may have cheep fares but, correct me if im wrong, i'm sure you still get a full service...choice of drinks and a lovely pannini.
and they're still making a profit (so they say).
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Marlowe if you click the links below and scroll down,i think you'll find these are our aircraft and were delivered to BA in 1997 which makes them at least 8 years old
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...next_id=175889
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...next_id=788982
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...next_id=175889
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...next_id=788982
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Originally Posted by tiggerific_69
me & my colleague have been trying to think of the 14 airports theyre talking about,as we could only name ten current ones,so they must be introducing new routes or bases.i have heard from a colleague that a manager said "were not getting rid of aircraft we currently have,however it doesnt mean that were not getting old aircraft from another base" which brings us back to the 737s from LGW rumour
It is 757's and the regions that are been linked at the moment.
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After the series of "roadshows" none of the BACX staff know what the hell is going on, our leadership team seem to stumble from one bad idea to another.
It all went wrong when BA regional got lumped in with Cityflyer, Brymon etc etc..
This will be another poor attempt to empty the final flood from the bilges of a sinking ship, man the lifeboats boys and girls..........
It all went wrong when BA regional got lumped in with Cityflyer, Brymon etc etc..
This will be another poor attempt to empty the final flood from the bilges of a sinking ship, man the lifeboats boys and girls..........
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Just to put Tiggerific in the picture as regards the age of the aircraft in the current BACX fleet, the last EMB 145 was delivered in July of 2002 and the youngest RJ 100 was first registered in January 2001. So the fleet is not that old. But I do agree, the aicraft are not really suitable for what they are being used for.
Are lower fares the way to get more bums on seats? lets hope so. But if you have forty nine bums on seats at £25.99 each that ain't alot of money. Probably won't even cover the fuel cost, let alone the wages bill.
Larger aircraft that are more fuel efficient is one way to go. but hey we can't do that because of some agreement that says BACX pilots can't fly aircraft with more than one hudred seats, they have to be operated by mainline flt crew. So how can we compete with outdated, in-efficient and unsuitable aircraft. What we really need is a huge investment in new modern aircraft. Hail the A319/318. Only a few months ago mainline were bashing on about how fuel efficient their new 319's were compared to the aircraft they replaced on a certain route to somewhere in Europe and using some two and half tons less fuel.
Sorry, been going on a bit, just my opinion. BACX has suffered from a lack of investment in equipment, so lets have some. You can do all the rebranding you like. But as far the aircraft are concerned you can't polish a t**d.
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Are lower fares the way to get more bums on seats? lets hope so. But if you have forty nine bums on seats at £25.99 each that ain't alot of money. Probably won't even cover the fuel cost, let alone the wages bill.
Larger aircraft that are more fuel efficient is one way to go. but hey we can't do that because of some agreement that says BACX pilots can't fly aircraft with more than one hudred seats, they have to be operated by mainline flt crew. So how can we compete with outdated, in-efficient and unsuitable aircraft. What we really need is a huge investment in new modern aircraft. Hail the A319/318. Only a few months ago mainline were bashing on about how fuel efficient their new 319's were compared to the aircraft they replaced on a certain route to somewhere in Europe and using some two and half tons less fuel.
Sorry, been going on a bit, just my opinion. BACX has suffered from a lack of investment in equipment, so lets have some. You can do all the rebranding you like. But as far the aircraft are concerned you can't polish a t**d.
All the best
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Railgun,the rumour going around BACX at BHX was 737s coming from gatwick.this rumour was also going around the EDI base.Blade blender,im aware of when they were delivered,but some of the older embraers are from 1997.the ages vary,particularly between the ERJ registered aircraft,which are newer,and the EMB registered aicraft,which are older
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After the series of "roadshows" none of the BACX staff know what the hell is going on, our leadership team seem to stumble from one bad idea to another.
It all went wrong when BA regional got lumped in with Cityflyer, Brymon etc etc..
This will be another poor attempt to empty the final flood from the bilges of a sinking ship, man the lifeboats boys and girls..........
It all went wrong when BA regional got lumped in with Cityflyer, Brymon etc etc..
This will be another poor attempt to empty the final flood from the bilges of a sinking ship, man the lifeboats boys and girls..........
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totally agree with you there skiddy.apparently some ambassadors have been chosen to represent the new company at bhx,and even they dont know whats going on.could be embarassing for them if it ended up being like Hooters Air 
spose were all just going to have to wait till tomorrow morning.
spose were all just going to have to wait till tomorrow morning.
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CPA (Capacity Purchase Agreement) as I understand it is a bit like a franchise agreement in a different dress, slightly different dynamic in corporate structure etc. but essentially the same thing where a large network carrier (eg BA) Buys x amount of capacity from another corporate entity but maintains control over certain, if not all aspects of the operation.
Expressjet in the US provides regional services to Continental mainline through a Capacity Purchase Agreement, but as I see it it's just another buzz word for a franchise agreement...........
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Expressjet in the US provides regional services to Continental mainline through a Capacity Purchase Agreement, but as I see it it's just another buzz word for a franchise agreement...........
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What I don't understand is how WW thinks he can turn the business round by cutting the price of seats, there must be some cost cutting somewhere.
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The cost cutting is gonna be in the catering dept as they are looking to slash the 18 million outlay each year so looks like could be buying the onboard product in future also rumours of cabin crew cleaning aircraft at £5.00 per head per sector as this will cut the cleaning bill as well.
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Originally Posted by tiggerific_69
at least WW seems bothered about the future of BACX.Eddington never seemed to mention us.
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BACX will be sold off/given away that is a cert.
We will never make the cut no matter what happens. As someone mentioned before, you can't polish t**d.
The good people of BACX have been caught in the middle of a changing airline industry and a poorly managed operation, with the parent company not really bothering with investment, just asset stripping as they have always done.
Remember the good old days folks, it's all a memory.
We will never make the cut no matter what happens. As someone mentioned before, you can't polish t**d.
The good people of BACX have been caught in the middle of a changing airline industry and a poorly managed operation, with the parent company not really bothering with investment, just asset stripping as they have always done.
Remember the good old days folks, it's all a memory.
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Cabin crew cleaning the aircraft.....
I predict more cabin crew sickness at all bases now!
Why has it taken us so long to come up with these cost cutting ideas???
3 years to late.
I predict more cabin crew sickness at all bases now!
Why has it taken us so long to come up with these cost cutting ideas???
3 years to late.
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The cleaning idea has been on the cards for about 2 years but the mis-management have never pushed for it before, also heard that they want to shorten the turnround times as well so cabin crew will have to clean and security check A/C and sort out the cash for the catering in a shorter time oh and make the turnround drinks as well!!!!!
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another one was them taking crew food off us.but then they wud have to stop nightstops/3 days trips & gv us allowances and longer turnarounds so we have time to get food & eat it.which wont work if they make us clean & want us on the ground less time.spose we'll just have to wait another 14 and a half hours and see what happens