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Sheikh Zabik 6th Jan 2006 18:08

BACitiExpress The final solution!
 
Weird memo from Chief Executive warning of some speculation in the press this weekend about the latest reinvention of this company. Apparently this will be "positive" ahead of announcements next week.

Rumours are that this will be the final "big one" and represent WW's considered view of the future of loss making LGW and CX.

New name definitely coming next week..........."European" in there somewhere......

This one has leaked like a sieve.....so come on all........tell us what you know.

Speedpig 6th Jan 2006 18:17

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British European Airways has a certain ring to it:}

apaddyinuk 6th Jan 2006 18:37

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Hehehe....And to differenciate and distance LHR from this they shall be adding "Overseas" and "Coorporation" into the LHR fleet no doubt!!! :}

whattimedoweland 6th Jan 2006 18:45

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I dread to think!!. Surely he it can't be ****** up more than it already is!!:mad:

Trying to get crew's to crew it would help!!.Maybe they can offer better money to attract and keep them.

WTDWL.

2shits 6th Jan 2006 18:59

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Now......Now.....I know what yer sayin'.....but......yer wrong!!!!

Grand yahoo 7th Jan 2006 06:57

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A well placed source says,,,,,,

'After three years of not the best performance in a very difficult marlket....spin..blah, blah it is the BACX name that has been the problem@

Solution a name that will mean what we are D E A D U K - Didsbury European Airways Division UK!

hmph

marlowe 7th Jan 2006 09:17

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BARE British Airways Regional Europe were all gonna work for Bare air !!!!!

flyer55 7th Jan 2006 09:24

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Or even BA RED!

marlowe 7th Jan 2006 09:41

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So if LGW is to be lumped in to the BACX (or what ever its new title is to be) pot how do you guys feel about this? assuming this to be correct

Cutoff 7th Jan 2006 10:42

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Here is an article in the Telegraph, looks quite promising.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...ixcitytop.html

flyer55 7th Jan 2006 11:31

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Marlowe , LGW isnt included in the changes to Regional bases as mentioned in the article . Lgw has its own agenda mainly the Singlefleet . We will just have to wait and see what WW announces next week !

Tandemrotor 7th Jan 2006 11:47

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Anybody know of another lo-co model based on the Embraer 145? (BMI?)

Where is the saving for the airline, in preventing business travellers from paying a premium? I suspect it takes more than removing a cabin divider to create a lo-co.

But the rebranding seems absolutely the right way to go. IMHO

jamesbrownontheroad 7th Jan 2006 14:36

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Originally Posted by Tandemrotor
Anybody know of another lo-co model based on the Embraer 145? (BMI?)

Hahahahahahahha... :E

Sorry, had to pick myself up... nope, in fact the BMI Regional Embraers are some of the last routes on the BD network where you get full service, and there are none of the 'tiny' fares. The 145 is not a smart choice for lo-co; the way forward for those sorts of routes is props. BE have proved that; the Q400 hasn't been trouble free, but it drinks less and moves like s--- off a hot shovel, so it's been a good choice for them.

*j*

Dash-7 lover 7th Jan 2006 14:41

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Quite please with the personalised postcard in the post this morning from the MD with a pic of a gift-wrapped 145 saying 'all will be revealed.........'

Can't say anymore.

I do think this is the last throw of the dice though? fingers crossed.

WOWBOY 7th Jan 2006 15:01

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If they had done this a while back they could have saved the operations at Belfast, Plymouth, Leeds/Bradford and Cardiff. :D

Dash-7 lover 7th Jan 2006 15:09

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And not forgetting ABERDEEN/GLASGOW/NEWCASTLE/JERSEY

Tandemrotor 7th Jan 2006 16:04

Re: BACitiExpress The final solution!
 
jamesbrownontheroad

My point exactly. I don't think it's an accident that the loco models are based almost exclusively on a/c a little larger than 49 seaters.

This seems likely to become quite an interesting experiment! It is yet to be explained where any savings will occur. That's going to be the most interesting bit!

BA does of course have 'previous' for setting up locos.

Oh, and then selling them off!

GoEDI 7th Jan 2006 18:19

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nope, in fact the BMI Regional Embraers are some of the last routes on the BD network where you get full service, and there are none of the 'tiny' fares.
Yes there are, well atleast on EDI-MAN there are... Enjoyable flight it was too...;)

Railgun 7th Jan 2006 19:57

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WW is not exactly new to the Loco model and i am sure he will have something up his sleave with aircraft type......

MerchantVenturer 7th Jan 2006 20:26

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I know I'm a bit long in the tooth, well I would be if I had any, and memory sometimes plays tricks but, as I chomp on my old clay pipe, I seem to recall that BA once had a low-cost, no frills airline, and a very good one it was.

I even have a book about it all somewhere, written by a charming American lady called Cassani.

BA's loco transformed my local airport at BRS and it will be somewhat ironic if the new version finds itself in direct competition with the old, now part of the orange airline of course.

If the Telegraph's information is correct I hope that all works out well, and it is not a case of the old idea that when we don't know what to do we reorganise because it creates a fine illusion of progress.


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