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Old 15th Dec 2012, 18:18
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Quote: "What's going on in terminal 3 arrivals? Went there to meet my other half. approached LHR 15.00, arrived at the gate 15.30, met at the arrivals hall 16.45. Immigration was hell, someone describing it as worse than the 1st day of the sales. Is this the norm or a one off? Surely some werious questions need to be asked about the infrastructure of LHR before even thinking of a 3rd runway.

A total disgrace."

Isn't this a border control (i.e. Home office) issue rather than an airport management one?

Wasn't it supposed to be sorted out MONTHS ago?

What does it have to do with the issue of a third rwy?

What does it say about the UK?


Agree that it is a disgrace and not nearly good enough!

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Old 15th Dec 2012, 18:24
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What does it have to do with the issue of a third rwy?
I would have thought that was obvious. If the terminals can't cope with 2 runways, how are they going to cope with extra flights using a 3rd runway. Or is the idea for it just to ease the flow and cut down the amount of holding that aircraft have to do?
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Old 15th Dec 2012, 18:26
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A 3rd runway won't mean more people, it will just mean more space for planes to land or take off. The same number of gates will exist, the same number of terminals will exist, which will handle the same number of passengers, so really a 3rd runway and immigration waiting times are not really connected.

The only thing which would make a real change would be airlines bringing bigger, fuller planes in to LHR.
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Old 15th Dec 2012, 18:46
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Quote: "I would have thought that was obvious. If the terminals can't cope with 2 runways, how are they going to cope with extra flights using a 3rd runway. Or is the idea for it just to ease the flow and cut down the amount of holding that aircraft have to do?"

As mentioned above it's a border control issue. There isn't the same problem at departures, where the airport management is responsible for security.

If the Home Office does't get it's act together, no end of terminal/rwy capacity will make any difference. It certainly does not create a good impression for arriving pax!

At present (plse note, at present) the terminal capacity is more than adequate at Heathrow, rwy capacity obviously isn't.

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Old 15th Dec 2012, 19:45
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We are building 10 lane freeways in the sky, that end up at a 2 car garage...
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Old 17th Dec 2012, 20:42
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A 3rd runway won't mean more people, it will just mean more space for planes to land or take off.
So a third runway, which will be able to accommodate around 220,000 additional ATMs per year, won't actually shift more passengers than at present ?

Novel idea.
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BA announce flight to Chengdu

Flight will be 3 times a week from 22nd September 2013

ccording to business traveller magazine the flight schedule is :

BA089 LHR 15:30 CTU 08:55 777 247

BA088 CTU 10:55 LHR 15:00 777 135

Flights will operate on a four class 777
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Old 21st Dec 2012, 19:51
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Seems American are dropping LHR-BOS with BA adding an additional daily service taking it up to four daily on 2 x B744 and 2 x B772.

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Old 23rd Dec 2012, 11:55
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AM launched their twice-weekly flights to MEX last week and plans to operate B787 on this route later in 2013.

UA to introduce B787 on IAH-LHR from 1st March.

US moves its daily CLT flights (A333) from LGW to LHR starting next summer.

AA to reduce JFK-LHR from 5 to 4 daily from summer but will introduce B77W from 9th May.

Virgin Atlantic to start 6 daily flights to EDI from April 5th and 3 daily flights to ABZ from April 9th. 3 daily flights to MAN will start in April, too. All flights operaetd by A320 (leased from EI).

CA to intrduce B77W on PEK-LHR from 15th May.

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Old 31st Dec 2012, 20:28
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Sad News From Heathrow as ex BAA CIO Philp Langsdale passes away

Sad News From Heathrow as ex BAA CIO Philp Langsdale passes away at 56.

Full story here - Sad News From Heathrow as ex CIO Philp Langsdale passes away: BAA « The Airport Informer
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 13:07
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Video I took of BA landing at LHR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8mm5wqkdKk
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 13:09
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Video

Thats easily the most exciting video ive seen since breakfast(and i had a late breakfast)
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 13:26
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Planeaddict... Re: The comment on Youtube "the plane was constantly turning (presumably due to the airport being congested as usual)" . Even when the airport is very busy, the tracks flown during the approach are pretty standard although they are radar controlled so there may be slight variations. Constantly turning possible relates to being in a holding pattern but the aircraft would straighten out between turns.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 13:56
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Thats easily the most exciting video ive seen since breakfast (and i had a late breakfast)
This one is more interesting:

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 14:11
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Video I took of BA landing at LHR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8mm5wqkdKk
Is this PSRUNE? Like in Plane Spotters Rumours Network.... Is there not a planepotters site who would be wildly enthusiastic about these movies... When I am off I try to forget boring landings as that is called work...
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 20:53
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Hello planeaddict, there's a thread in Spectators Balcony for this sort of thing. This isn't really the best place as I am sure you've worked out by now....

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 22:49
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Not welcome is a little harsh. Not in the appropriate place is far more reasonable.
Seems some have taken on a moderator role...?
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 22:59
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Let's get back to planes. No doubt people in London and the South find LHR the most convenient airport because of accessibility, and will endlessly continue using it, do idiot northerners and Scottish people like me hear so much bad publicity, we wouldn't even consider it when we could go through so many more convenient (? perceived - I thought Frankfurt was awful) hubs? Yes, I know we're not as rich and as many.

Oh and that's not considering price either.
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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 23:06
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"idiot northerners"?

That's unneccessarily rude! What's idiotic about "northerners"?

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Old 2nd Jan 2013, 23:15
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I'm one, and its best to put a front up sometimes! Noticed I reverted to 'we' instead of 'they' in post as well.

And Frankfurt was the sh*ttiest transfer I've ever had. Twice. Trouble is, Zurich, Munich and Amsterdam are great from MAN. Not tried ME yet.

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