Alpha 1 - delayed again?
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Booking site down for "routine maintenance" - pinch of salt optional.
Am I right in thinking this little upstart has been rattling Flybe a little? It seems to be taking a lot of trouble to highlight Alpha's problems, and even set up a false-redirection website.
Am I right in thinking this little upstart has been rattling Flybe a little? It seems to be taking a lot of trouble to highlight Alpha's problems, and even set up a false-redirection website.
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From: Bedfordshire
"Am I right in thinking this little upstart has been rattling Flybe a little? It seems to be taking a lot of trouble to highlight Alpha's problems, and even set up a false-redirection website. "
My thoughts exactly Kalium!
Flying Fiona, the last post I read from you was about Flybe... perhaps in your daily briefing they just told you Alpha 1 had collapsed so you can all stop worrying about them?!!!
My thoughts exactly Kalium!
Flying Fiona, the last post I read from you was about Flybe... perhaps in your daily briefing they just told you Alpha 1 had collapsed so you can all stop worrying about them?!!!
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I think we will let this run for a while. However, please do not assume that you can mud sling and move off topic or the thread will be closed.
But..............as it has become more interesting we will see what happens.
But..............as it has become more interesting we will see what happens.
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From: England
pprune pop
Other than seeing the young chap on the national news this is the first I've heard of Alpha 1.
so PP P what has he done wrong then?
Interesting to note that when you dial the call centre number the O2 messaging service asks you to leave a message on 07921 789817. how strange.
Other than seeing the young chap on the national news this is the first I've heard of Alpha 1.
so PP P what has he done wrong then?
Interesting to note that when you dial the call centre number the O2 messaging service asks you to leave a message on 07921 789817. how strange.
Too mean to buy a long personal title
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Epsilon minus: Interesting to note that when you dial the call centre number the O2 messaging service asks you to leave a message on 07921 789817. how strange.
It may all work out yet, but it has always been an odd way of going about this.
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It sort of shows the level of his intelligence doesn't it. He should have thought it through and announced his operation a month or two before getting off the ground instead of his stop-start attempts since March. He got the publicity but he used it badly and now has eggs all over his face.
No one will take him seriously now I suspect. Certainly Love Air who operate for him must be asking serious questions. I know the owner and he would have pulled the plug in an instant at the first sign all was getting iffy.
He should have kept his mouth shut at the beginning.
No one will take him seriously now I suspect. Certainly Love Air who operate for him must be asking serious questions. I know the owner and he would have pulled the plug in an instant at the first sign all was getting iffy.
He should have kept his mouth shut at the beginning.
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I understand that G-CCPW is being used, operated by Love Air, subleased through Euromanx who are leasing it from Keen leasing.
Thats just my understanding of the ownership/leasing situation, it may be more or less complicated.
Thats just my understanding of the ownership/leasing situation, it may be more or less complicated.
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No one will take him seriously now I suspect. Certainly Love Air who operate for him must be asking serious questions. I know the owner and he would have pulled the plug in an instant at the first sign all was getting iffy.
Also is there any relationship with the name of this airline and the chronich obstructive pulmonary disease and Alpha1 Proteinase Inhibitor?
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From: Isle of Man
No evidence over here that they have Collapsed! If they have then the IOM govt wont be very pleased!!
Maiden flight made to Ronaldsway on 7th November. Martin Halsted met the press and television crews for interviews.
Does anyone know whats really going on?? If there is any hard evidence to suggest that Alpha one has in fact collapsed, please let us all know..
We will see if operations start to and from the Isle of Man on Monday 21st..
From my information the Aircraft is leased from Woodgate Aviation!
3legs
Maiden flight made to Ronaldsway on 7th November. Martin Halsted met the press and television crews for interviews.
Does anyone know whats really going on?? If there is any hard evidence to suggest that Alpha one has in fact collapsed, please let us all know..
We will see if operations start to and from the Isle of Man on Monday 21st..
From my information the Aircraft is leased from Woodgate Aviation!
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I have never seen so much vindictive 'schadenfreude' (there's no English word for it, it means taking pleasure in other people's misfortune). Why don't you lot find something more productive to discuss and leave this enterprising young man to do more with the three years he has so far had of his adult life than most of us sad mortgage-slaves ever will.
It may be a long time since I was 21 but I'm pretty sure I recall being both immortal and invincible at that age. I certainly never had 'eggs all over my face', RTR.
Wish him luck and leave him alone.
I for one hope it works. There's room for him and us ('us' being Flybe).
It may be a long time since I was 21 but I'm pretty sure I recall being both immortal and invincible at that age. I certainly never had 'eggs all over my face', RTR.
Wish him luck and leave him alone.
I for one hope it works. There's room for him and us ('us' being Flybe).
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No one hear is directly insulting him, its just he has looked rather silly by announcing the airline in March with one route, delaying its launch numerous times and changing the original business plan which got him all the media attention.
Its one thing running an airline, its another running a ticket agency.
And your quote, there's room for FlyBe and Alpha 1 how do you explain typing http://www.flyalphaone.com into your browser and being directed to FlyBe? Flybe are not going to sit round and allow competition to grow underneath their noses.
Its one thing running an airline, its another running a ticket agency.
And your quote, there's room for FlyBe and Alpha 1 how do you explain typing http://www.flyalphaone.com into your browser and being directed to FlyBe? Flybe are not going to sit round and allow competition to grow underneath their noses.
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Luckily I am not a "Professional Pilot", just a very experienced amateur. If you are looking for job security, called London United. They offer job security for uniformed bus drivers. Sadly they can not provide the glamour you seem to crave.
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I'd be careful about blaming flybe without proof - if flybe have purchased the domain then they are using a different domain name registrar. If they have - not only are they exposing themselves to legal action by A1 to reclaim the name but it would be an incredibly childish prank - I mean, it's hardly BA dirty tricks on VS now is it!
From samspade.org -
Server Used: [ whois.godaddy.com ]
FLYALPHAONE.COM = [ 64.202.163.107 ]
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy Inc.
Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: FLYALPHAONE.COM
Domain servers in listed order:
WSC1.JOMAX.NET
WSC2.JOMAX.NET
For complete domain details go to:
Server Used: [ whois.enom.com ]
www.flybe.com = [ 212.24.73.228 ]
Registration Service Provided By: Telewest Communications Networks Limited
Contact: [email protected]
Domain name: flybe.com
Registrant Contact:
NA
Jersey European Airways [email protected]
NA
Fax:
Flybe. (British European)
Hangar 3
Exeter DEVON EX5 2BD
UK
Administrative Contact:
NA
Howard Back [email protected]
013.92266610
Fax: 013.92445978
Flybe. (British European)
Hangar 3
Exeter DEVON EX5 2BD
UK
Technical Contact:
NA
Howard Back [email protected]
013.92266610
Fax: 013.92445978
Flybe. (British European)
Hangar 3
Exeter DEVON EX5 2BD
UK
Status: Locked
Name Servers:
ns.cableinet.net
ns2.cableinet.co.uk
ns3.cableinet.co.uk
Creation date: 22 Feb 2001 07: 03: 38
Expiration date: 22 Feb 2006 07: 03: 38
Whois-Services: [email protected]
From samspade.org -
Server Used: [ whois.godaddy.com ]
FLYALPHAONE.COM = [ 64.202.163.107 ]
Registrant:
Domains by Proxy Inc.
Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: FLYALPHAONE.COM
Domain servers in listed order:
WSC1.JOMAX.NET
WSC2.JOMAX.NET
For complete domain details go to:
Server Used: [ whois.enom.com ]
www.flybe.com = [ 212.24.73.228 ]
Registration Service Provided By: Telewest Communications Networks Limited
Contact: [email protected]
Domain name: flybe.com
Registrant Contact:
NA
Jersey European Airways [email protected]
NA
Fax:
Flybe. (British European)
Hangar 3
Exeter DEVON EX5 2BD
UK
Administrative Contact:
NA
Howard Back [email protected]
013.92266610
Fax: 013.92445978
Flybe. (British European)
Hangar 3
Exeter DEVON EX5 2BD
UK
Technical Contact:
NA
Howard Back [email protected]
013.92266610
Fax: 013.92445978
Flybe. (British European)
Hangar 3
Exeter DEVON EX5 2BD
UK
Status: Locked
Name Servers:
ns.cableinet.net
ns2.cableinet.co.uk
ns3.cableinet.co.uk
Creation date: 22 Feb 2001 07: 03: 38
Expiration date: 22 Feb 2006 07: 03: 38
Whois-Services: [email protected]
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And so it goes................on and on and on. There is nothing credible about this operation and how he thinks that his constant change of plans will help him I just don't know. Its certainly no way to run an airline.