Loganair

[TRY2FLY]

He also left his last company to 'persue personal interests'. See the link

https://www.tigerair.com/news/TH_201...rship_Team.pdf

[NorthSouth]

Gold Star to Loganair's Orkney-based islander pilot today

One of Loganair's Orkney islander pilots certainly earned his pay today. After departure from Kirkwall (or maybe on a go-around?) in crap weather (4500 BR FEW 002 BKN 004, and with a 60 degree crosswind gusting to 20kts+) he initially diverted to Wick, but halfway there seemingly decided to divert to Stornoway where the weather was significantly better. But halfway there he decided to turn back to Kirkwall. Flew one approach to a go-around in much the same weather, went round the hold then had another go and got in. Phew! And this on an operation that's normally flown VFR throughout.

[goldeneye]

Another Do328 returned to leasing company, that leaves 3 in the fleet.

[BOHEuropean]

Flybe Franchise Terminated

Flybe is ending its franchise agreement with Scottish airline Loganair.

The move means Glasgow-based Loganair will stop flying under the Flybe brand from 31 August next year.

The Scottish airline operates on lifeline routes between the Scottish mainland and islands, including the Western and Northern isles.

Loganair, which has operated under franchise agreements for 24 years with other airlines, said it will operate in "its own right" from 1 September 2017.

Flybe said its decision followed "a failure to agree future operational standards and commercial arrangements".


Interesting news from Loganair / Flybe today. What impact will this have on the airlines?

Source: Flybe terminates contract with Loganair - BBC News

[goldeneye]

Loganair will take to the air in its own right once again in Autumn 2017 after nearly quarter of a century flying under franchise arrangements with other airlines

The move will create a national airline for Scotland, headquartered in Scotland

Full details on the Loganair Press Release

[fjencl]

Inverness - London City Airport

Maybe they can try the INV - LCY - INV route on the Dornier Do328 Turbo-Prop.

[EI-BUD]

Best of luck to Loganair, a great little airline in my opinion. They have come a very long way and survived hard times all the while providing a life line to island communities.

The only drawback to exciting the BE relationship would be the access to technology developments that could come worth BE scale, and of course let's hope BE dint decide to jump onto LC routes.. Like they've done worth Stobart Air, eg DUB CWL...

EI-BUD

[virginblue]

Gearing up for Scexit ?

[nighthawk117]

I'd honestly say good luck getting a Dash8 into half of the places Loganair go..

The passenger loads on most of the route wouldn't make any sense either on a Dash8. I'd say the route network is safe.

Additionally, a lot of Loganairs routes are PSO routes, which are only viable due to government subsidies. Granted FlyBE could choose to bid for them when the contract is up for renewal, but I think that's incredibly unlikely.

[NickBarnes]

Loganair have launched their Summer 2017 schedule, Quite a lot going on so have taken the keys points from press release.

A non-stop twice-weekly service will link Glasgow and the Norwegian city of Bergen – known as “the gateway to the fjords”. The Glasgow-based airline will operate the new route on Mondays and Fridays from May 5 to September 25 2017. It’s part of a sizeable expansion which will also see the airline’s schedule to Bergen bolstered by extra flights from Shetland and new direct flights from Orkney.

Scotland’s Airline has also revealed the first regular service in recent years linking Shetland and Aberdeen with Vagar, the airport of the Faroe Islands, again starting in May. The service will operate on Fridays and Sundays from May 26 to September 3 2017, and Loganair will carefully evaluate demand on the route with a view to moving to year-round operations in future.

· An overall growth of 20% in seat capacity to and from Glasgow.

· A fourth weekday flight between Glasgow and Manchester, plus a new Sunday lunchtime service - providing enhanced connections to domestic UK destinations and the expanding range of long-haul destinations available via Manchester.

· A fourth daily service between Inverness and Manchester, also opening up the wide range of connections available from Manchester.

· An 18% increase in seats between Glasgow and Stornoway through introduction of larger Saab 2000 50-seat aircraft on three of the four weekday round trips - and use of the larger aircraft on selected weekend flights between Glasgow and Benbecula for the first time.

· A third weekday flight from Glasgow to Islay, and a second on Sundays, opening up a wide range of new domestic and international connections to and from Islay.

· New convenient one-stop, same-plane services linking Manchester with Sumburgh and Stornoway, cutting journey times and offering lower fares than connecting flights.

· A second weekly Bergen service from Sumburgh, operating on Tuesdays between May 30 and August 29 and complementing the Saturday service (13May – 02 September)

· A non-stop service linking Kirkwall on Orkney with Bergen on Saturdays between May 13 and September 02 while also operating a complementary Tuesday connection via Sumburgh.

· Expansion of services between Edinburgh and Wick with the introduction of a second flight on Mondays, Thursdays and Fridays.

· A new timetable for Edinburgh-Stornoway services to ensure that the route remains commercially viable despite new charges for airlines being introduced by Edinburgh Airport in April 2017.

· Additional weekend flights between Glasgow and Kirkwall - with a new Friday night southbound service from Kirkwall and an extra Sunday evening return flight, coupled to larger aircraft deployed on Saturday services.

· More seats between Glasgow and Sumburgh through use of larger 50-seater Saab 2000 aircraft on one of two daily flights during the summer.

· Developing use of Glasgow as a hub airport to link Loganair’s Highlands & Islands network with its growing network of services to Manchester and Leeds Bradford.

· Continued expansion outside Scotland with the introduction of a new four-times weekly service linking Loganair’s base at Norwich with the Channel Island of Jersey.

[Skipness One Echo]

Is that GLA-MAN really providing capacity for flybe "mainline" rather than Loganair? i.e. it will disappear back to BE come the divorce? Isn't ABZ-LCY similar?

[NickBarnes]

I don't believe so, Flybe couldn't make it work on the Dash so Loganair took it on. Of course Flybe could go up against but I would doubt it, and if I'm honest I'd fully expect Loganair to fully codeshare on the INV, GLA and NWI post Flybe.

[inOban]

An ambitious increase, given the steadily declining population in the Western Isles, and the downturn in the oil industry, which must surely be affecting Orkney and Shetland as it has ABN.

Delighted to see direct Bergen flights, but I am slightly surprised that they have chosen GLA rather than EDI. Maybe the changes to EDI pricing has made EDI unattractive to small a/c. (Anyone know what they are?)

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by inOban

An ambitious increase, given the steadily declining population in the Western Isles, and the downturn in the oil industry, which must surely be affecting Orkney and Shetland as it has ABN.

Delighted to see direct Bergen flights, but I am slightly surprised that they have chosen GLA rather than EDI. Maybe the changes to EDI pricing has made EDI unattractive to small a/c. (Anyone know what they are?)

I don't know whether it's new, but I do note from the latest EDI fees and charges:

8. Minimum Charge on Departure
Between the hours of 0600 to 0900 and 1600 to 1800 the minimum charge on departure for all
flights will be £155. At all other times the minimum charge will be £60.

Given that the normal weight charge on departure is £5.22 per ton, this is basically saying "if you fly an aircraft with MTOW <30 tons at peak times, we'll charge you for 30 tons."

The Saab 340's MTOW is about 13 tons.

Just saying...

[Morus193]

Delighted to see Loganair plan a big growth in 2017 and show ambition, surely some potential to grow a hub at both GLA and EDI. Looking forward to seeing what plans they have in store over the next few years.

[Callum Paterson]

Delighted to see direct Bergen flights, but I am slightly surprised that they have chosen GLA rather than EDI. Maybe the changes to EDI pricing has made EDI unattractive to small a/c. (Anyone know what they are?)

Why? Glasgow is the largest city in Scotland. Glasgow is the economic powerhouse of Scotland. Glasgow Airport is Loganair's home base. Glasgow Airport is Loganair's largest base. Glasgow Airport is the gateway to Glasgow, Loch Lomond and the Western Isles. People visit Scotland for its scenery, the best of Scotland's scenery is on the west coast. Glasgow makes perfect sense for this route!

[inOban]

As you can see from my user ID I live in that wonderful scenery, and the Glasgow flight will be very useful to yachties I also deal with. I am also delighted that Glasgow's economy is recovering from the collapse of its traditional industries.

But, the population drift towards the East is continuing, and is predicted to continue. GLA is stuck with being on the wrong side of Glasgow.
I would suggest that the market for this route will not,in the main, be incoming PAX looking to admire our scenery - the scenery around Bergen is even grander. It will outgoing, many heading for a Norwegian Coastal Cruise (Hurtigruten), and I would have thought that Edinburgh would be a bigger market.

I think that it comes down to GLA being their main base.

[Callum Paterson]

GLA is stuck with being on the wrong side of Glasgow.

Marketing spew fabricated by GD. GLA is on the 'wrong' side of Glasgow. Wrong side for who exactly? For yourself in Oban GLA is on the 'right' side of Glasgow. For people living in Paisley (Scotland's largest town!), Greenock, Balloch, Helensburgh and the entire west coast of Scotland, GLA is on the 'right' side of Glasgow. For everyone living in Glasgow (Scotland's largest city, GLA is one the 'right' side of Glasgow and for the millions of tourist looking to visit Glasgow itself, Scotland's ski resorts including Glencoe, Scotland's thousands of Loch's including Loch Lomond and the Trossachs national park, and not to mention the Highland Railway, GLA is without doubt on the 'right' side of Glasgow. As far as I'm concerned EDI is on the 'wrong' side of Scotland. You see, this depends entirely on who you ask. Therefor marketing spew fabricated by GD.

I would suggest that the market for this route will not,in the main, be incoming PAX looking to admire our scenery - the scenery around Bergen is even grander. It will outgoing, many heading for a Norwegian Coastal Cruise (Hurtigruten), and I would have thought that Edinburgh would be a bigger market.

If you feel this route will predominately be subscribed to by outbound passengers originating in Scotland then it makes perfect sense to offer this route from the population center of Scotland, therefor generating the biggest potential for take-up of the flight. Your own argument makes GLA the logical choice for this route.

PS... just once I've love to discuss GLA's gains without people bringing up EDI. Just saying.

[A350Saltire]

Marketing spew fabricated by GD

This is hilarious - what has Gordon Dewar got to do with it?


You have branded the comments as "marketing spew fabricated by GD" and then go on to provide your own fabricated marketing spew.

just once I've love to discuss GLA's gains without people bringing up EDI.

Fortunately, people are free to discuss whatever they want. This is a nice wee route for GLA given the shocking connections to Scandinavia that currently exists. I wish Loganair well with the service.

[mwm991]

Of course its on the wrong side of Glasgow. It means they are losing marketshare in areas much closer to the centre of Glasgow than Edinburgh in places like Lanarkshire and even marginally closer places like Stirling and Falkirk. To be honest, I am marginally east of Glasgow and could probably get to EDI quicker driving during rush hour.

Not a surprise they want to grow at GLA though with the likes of the Bergen route given the rubbish service to Scandinavia and that is where they are based. Hope it continues.