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Forgive me if there is another Birmingham topic open somewhere, the only one I can find is on P8 and it is now closed.
Anyway...does anyone know the background to the threatened industrial action over Xmas. It seems that AMICUS want two 'unfairly' sacked security staff reinstated. BHX are sticking to their guns.
The TU will go to non binding arbitration, BHX will go to binding arbitration.
Apparently those sacked had an unblemished record and were being covertly filmed according to the Union (not a fair cop ?).
I remember some time ago there was a story about security staff being sacked for (alledgedly) sleeping on the job. Were these the guys ?
Surely in this day and age if someone has been unfaily sacked they can appeal against dismissal and if unsucessful go to a tribunal and ask for re-instatement through the legal process ?
Why the need for a strike ?
Anyway...does anyone know the background to the threatened industrial action over Xmas. It seems that AMICUS want two 'unfairly' sacked security staff reinstated. BHX are sticking to their guns.
The TU will go to non binding arbitration, BHX will go to binding arbitration.
Apparently those sacked had an unblemished record and were being covertly filmed according to the Union (not a fair cop ?).
I remember some time ago there was a story about security staff being sacked for (alledgedly) sleeping on the job. Were these the guys ?
Surely in this day and age if someone has been unfaily sacked they can appeal against dismissal and if unsucessful go to a tribunal and ask for re-instatement through the legal process ?
Why the need for a strike ?
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2 security guards filmed with a handcam from the car park allegedly sleeping whilst on duty.
This is not the 1st time strike action has been threatened at BHX and it's always at peak time i.e. xmas
This is not the 1st time strike action has been threatened at BHX and it's always at peak time i.e. xmas
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I understand if it goes ahead it will not be a mass walkout for 24hours but more shorter periods i.e a few hours at a time etc....
On the radio yesterday it said that all "options had be exhausted" with BIA and that this was the next course of action.
On the radio yesterday it said that all "options had be exhausted" with BIA and that this was the next course of action.
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Carrying on with BHX developments...
I've heard that due to the political tensions between the UK & Iran, Mahan Air are currently looking at their schedules. Could be the next route BHX loses?
Haven't heard anything about Austrian Airlines for a while (was 'rumoured' to be looking at a VIE-BHX service using an Austrian Arrows Fokker 100) but both Finnair (Helsinki-Brum with EMB170) and LOT (Warsaw-Brum with Emb145/170?) could be starters next year?
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I've heard that due to the political tensions between the UK & Iran, Mahan Air are currently looking at their schedules. Could be the next route BHX loses?
Haven't heard anything about Austrian Airlines for a while (was 'rumoured' to be looking at a VIE-BHX service using an Austrian Arrows Fokker 100) but both Finnair (Helsinki-Brum with EMB170) and LOT (Warsaw-Brum with Emb145/170?) could be starters next year?
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The staff involved on this occasion were Ops staff.
Simple question: do you want the staff you employ and pay to inspect the operational areas and safeguard an aerodrome to be less than responsible.....
Simple question: do you want the staff you employ and pay to inspect the operational areas and safeguard an aerodrome to be less than responsible.....
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OK, so at last we have a few more figures.
£120m for a runway extension sounds worth talking about; if that opens up more long haul flights then bring it on.
The total development plan figure was quoted previously as £2.5bn, now down to £1.5bn. I can't imagine the terminal would be more than about £80m (still 10x Cov's), so that's still £1.3bn for the second runway & associated taxiing.
I am waiting for a coherent CoBa on this - any suggestions?
A couple of weeks ago, we saw how Brum couldn't shell out £30m to buy Cov - they should have done it when they had the chance in 1993, when they would have probably got it for £1!
Now they are asking neighbouring councils to help them fork out for the runway extension.
So could someone please tell me where the funding would come from for the second runway? It is starting to look almost as ridiculous as the Rugby proposals!
£120m for a runway extension sounds worth talking about; if that opens up more long haul flights then bring it on.
The total development plan figure was quoted previously as £2.5bn, now down to £1.5bn. I can't imagine the terminal would be more than about £80m (still 10x Cov's), so that's still £1.3bn for the second runway & associated taxiing.
I am waiting for a coherent CoBa on this - any suggestions?
A couple of weeks ago, we saw how Brum couldn't shell out £30m to buy Cov - they should have done it when they had the chance in 1993, when they would have probably got it for £1!
Now they are asking neighbouring councils to help them fork out for the runway extension.
So could someone please tell me where the funding would come from for the second runway? It is starting to look almost as ridiculous as the Rugby proposals!
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Here's a bit more form the Birmingham Post about that airport just up the M42" (A45 actually).
I have to say that I fully agree with the sentiment with the exception that I think that it sould happen as soon as possible. This uncontrolled development of CVT threatens a meaningful air transport strategy in the Midlands.
'Buy rival airport and flatten it' Nov 7 2005
By Campbell Docherty, Transport Correspondent
Birmingham International Airport should buy Coventry Airport, demolish it and build houses on the site instead, according to a leading Midlands business expert.
John Kirk, head of business development at the University of Central England, said the burgeoning passenger operation at Coventry was a " non-starter" but if BIA feels it is harming its own expansion plans it should simply take it over.
Mr Kirk is no stranger to airport competition - he was also the head of public relations at Manchester Airport during its own expansion in the early 1990s, when the larger airport's plans were compromised by those of the much smaller Liverpool Airport.
Last week, BIA published its draft master plan for growing to cope with threetimes the passenger demand over the next 25 years. The £ 1.5 billion plan includes an extension to the current runway, a third terminal and a second runway.
Managing director Richard Heard has repeated his concern that the existence of Coventry Airport just 11 miles away "compromised" those plans.
"I have seen this all before when I was at Manchester," said Mr Kirk. "We always had this with Liverpool who were threatening to expand all the time.
"But you need some corporate muscle to grow an airport, you need some market visibility because airlines are just going to ask Coventry why they should take a leap of faith by going there rather than Birmingham.
"It costs a lot of money to introduce a new plane to an airport - when I was at Manchester an airline introducing a new 767 cost a quarter of a million.
"But the fact of the matter is that Coventry is starting from scratch and it is going to take hundreds of millions of pounds to introduce the kind of infrastructure required to entice business from new airlines."
Last month, reports suggested Coventry owners TUI had offered the airport to BIA.
Overall, Mr Kirk believes the BIA plan is an "economic imperative" but warned the airport it would not be easy to realise.
"We went through all this at Manchester 15 years ago. It is all very familiar.
"We used to regard BIA as a bit of a minnow, with a short runway and a small terminal. We used to come down to nick their business.
"But an airport is just a piece of real estate and their real customers are the airlines. Building a runway alone costs something like £100 million. You have to raise that money from somewhere."
He added: "Expanding an airport is a bit of a catch-22 because you can only build the new runway when you have the business but you only get the business when you have the runway.
"BIA certainly has to crank up it's marketing to the world's airlines to persuade them to operate services from there rather than Heathrow, Gatwick, Manchester. Amsterdam and the like."
The BIA plans were " realistic" he added because it was to attract medium haul flights.
BIA is consulting on its draft master plan and aims to present a finished document to Solihull Council next year.
I have to say that I fully agree with the sentiment with the exception that I think that it sould happen as soon as possible. This uncontrolled development of CVT threatens a meaningful air transport strategy in the Midlands.
'Buy rival airport and flatten it' Nov 7 2005
By Campbell Docherty, Transport Correspondent
Birmingham International Airport should buy Coventry Airport, demolish it and build houses on the site instead, according to a leading Midlands business expert.
John Kirk, head of business development at the University of Central England, said the burgeoning passenger operation at Coventry was a " non-starter" but if BIA feels it is harming its own expansion plans it should simply take it over.
Mr Kirk is no stranger to airport competition - he was also the head of public relations at Manchester Airport during its own expansion in the early 1990s, when the larger airport's plans were compromised by those of the much smaller Liverpool Airport.
Last week, BIA published its draft master plan for growing to cope with threetimes the passenger demand over the next 25 years. The £ 1.5 billion plan includes an extension to the current runway, a third terminal and a second runway.
Managing director Richard Heard has repeated his concern that the existence of Coventry Airport just 11 miles away "compromised" those plans.
"I have seen this all before when I was at Manchester," said Mr Kirk. "We always had this with Liverpool who were threatening to expand all the time.
"But you need some corporate muscle to grow an airport, you need some market visibility because airlines are just going to ask Coventry why they should take a leap of faith by going there rather than Birmingham.
"It costs a lot of money to introduce a new plane to an airport - when I was at Manchester an airline introducing a new 767 cost a quarter of a million.
"But the fact of the matter is that Coventry is starting from scratch and it is going to take hundreds of millions of pounds to introduce the kind of infrastructure required to entice business from new airlines."
Last month, reports suggested Coventry owners TUI had offered the airport to BIA.
Overall, Mr Kirk believes the BIA plan is an "economic imperative" but warned the airport it would not be easy to realise.
"We went through all this at Manchester 15 years ago. It is all very familiar.
"We used to regard BIA as a bit of a minnow, with a short runway and a small terminal. We used to come down to nick their business.
"But an airport is just a piece of real estate and their real customers are the airlines. Building a runway alone costs something like £100 million. You have to raise that money from somewhere."
He added: "Expanding an airport is a bit of a catch-22 because you can only build the new runway when you have the business but you only get the business when you have the runway.
"BIA certainly has to crank up it's marketing to the world's airlines to persuade them to operate services from there rather than Heathrow, Gatwick, Manchester. Amsterdam and the like."
The BIA plans were " realistic" he added because it was to attract medium haul flights.
BIA is consulting on its draft master plan and aims to present a finished document to Solihull Council next year.
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Here's a bit more form the Birmingham Post about that airport just up the M42" (A45 actually).
As for that article, what a load of
. BHX scared of a little competition?
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Busiest October on record
Summer Season Ends With Record Month At BIA
Birmingham International Airport (BIA) has experienced its busiest
October on record. The UK's 5th largest Airport handled 894,671
passengers during the month, a 7.7% increase on October last year.
Record passenger numbers have been prevalent throughout the summer
period, which proved to be the busiest season to date for the Airport.
BIA's Managing Director, Richard Heard, said, "Since the beginning of
May, 5.8 million people have passed through the airport and we have
experienced back-to-back record months throughout the summer season.
The passenger boom is a result of new routes, more direct
destinations, increased frequencies and easier worldwide connections,
which give Midlanders more choice and freedom than ever before.
"We are now ready for a busy winter season, which will see the
development and opening later in the year of better, more modern
passenger, retail and catering facilities to help handle these
growing activity levels in both our terminals. New and exciting long-
haul charter package holidays are now available to India, Egypt and
Mexico for winter 05/06, and we will continue to serve the 70 plus
regular direct scheduled services throughout Europe, the Indian sub-
continent and the Middle East."
Scheduled traffic grew by 22.3% overall with passenger numbers
increasing on non-EU flights which grew by 47.6%, on Transatlantic
services which were up 31.3%, as well as on flights to Asia which
rose by 27.4%. Additionally, the number of passengers using EU
services increased by 19.3% and domestic traffic grew by 18.9%.
The success of the Airport's investment in the Air-Rail Link to
Birmingham International Rail Station and new bus and coach facility
at the Airport has been seen this summer, with the proportion of
public transport now increased to 18.3%.
Growth was also achieved on a number of scheduled routes, including
Prague (+101.8%), Larnaca (+92.7%), Milan (+78.2%), Amsterdam
(+32.9%), Edinburgh (+25%), Zurich (+22%), Copenhagen (+16.5%),
Aberdeen (+12.4%) and Malta (+3.9%).
Whilst charter passenger numbers fell by 15.4% overall, several
destinations recorded an increase in passengers including Bulgaria
(+335%), Mexico (+38.6%), Croatia (+33.7%), Madeira (+24.9%), Turkey
(+23.2%), Cyprus (+14.3%), and Malta (+8.8%). This growth highlights
a general trend in the market towards alternative destinations and
away from the traditional package holiday hot-spots.
Scheduled traffic accounted for 69.6% of the total October figure
while charter passengers made up the remaining 30.4%.
BAA - October :-
Heathrow - 5,713,100 down 0.8%
Gatwick - 2,887,400 up 2.5%
Stansted - 1,917,400 up 0.6%
Glasgow - 868,400 up 1.2%
Edinburgh - 765,500 up 5.1%
Aberdeen - 262,900 up 7.1%
Southampton - 166,200 up 17.7%
Ian
Birmingham International Airport (BIA) has experienced its busiest
October on record. The UK's 5th largest Airport handled 894,671
passengers during the month, a 7.7% increase on October last year.
Record passenger numbers have been prevalent throughout the summer
period, which proved to be the busiest season to date for the Airport.
BIA's Managing Director, Richard Heard, said, "Since the beginning of
May, 5.8 million people have passed through the airport and we have
experienced back-to-back record months throughout the summer season.
The passenger boom is a result of new routes, more direct
destinations, increased frequencies and easier worldwide connections,
which give Midlanders more choice and freedom than ever before.
"We are now ready for a busy winter season, which will see the
development and opening later in the year of better, more modern
passenger, retail and catering facilities to help handle these
growing activity levels in both our terminals. New and exciting long-
haul charter package holidays are now available to India, Egypt and
Mexico for winter 05/06, and we will continue to serve the 70 plus
regular direct scheduled services throughout Europe, the Indian sub-
continent and the Middle East."
Scheduled traffic grew by 22.3% overall with passenger numbers
increasing on non-EU flights which grew by 47.6%, on Transatlantic
services which were up 31.3%, as well as on flights to Asia which
rose by 27.4%. Additionally, the number of passengers using EU
services increased by 19.3% and domestic traffic grew by 18.9%.
The success of the Airport's investment in the Air-Rail Link to
Birmingham International Rail Station and new bus and coach facility
at the Airport has been seen this summer, with the proportion of
public transport now increased to 18.3%.
Growth was also achieved on a number of scheduled routes, including
Prague (+101.8%), Larnaca (+92.7%), Milan (+78.2%), Amsterdam
(+32.9%), Edinburgh (+25%), Zurich (+22%), Copenhagen (+16.5%),
Aberdeen (+12.4%) and Malta (+3.9%).
Whilst charter passenger numbers fell by 15.4% overall, several
destinations recorded an increase in passengers including Bulgaria
(+335%), Mexico (+38.6%), Croatia (+33.7%), Madeira (+24.9%), Turkey
(+23.2%), Cyprus (+14.3%), and Malta (+8.8%). This growth highlights
a general trend in the market towards alternative destinations and
away from the traditional package holiday hot-spots.
Scheduled traffic accounted for 69.6% of the total October figure
while charter passengers made up the remaining 30.4%.
BAA - October :-
Heathrow - 5,713,100 down 0.8%
Gatwick - 2,887,400 up 2.5%
Stansted - 1,917,400 up 0.6%
Glasgow - 868,400 up 1.2%
Edinburgh - 765,500 up 5.1%
Aberdeen - 262,900 up 7.1%
Southampton - 166,200 up 17.7%
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Interesting to see the Milan and Prague figures. Pitty Milan is down from 5 to 2 services and Prague from 3 to 2 this winter. Just shows that full planes does not mean a profit.
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"I have to say that I fully agree with the sentiment with the exception that I think that it sould happen as soon as possible. This uncontrolled development of CVT threatens a meaningful air transport strategy in the Midlands."
What do you mean "uncontrolled", the airport will have a pax limit of 2 MPPA. Which for 130 seat a/c equates to an average of 2 or 3 flights per hour - how can that threaten air transport strategy?
Why doesn't CVT have the right to develop to these levels? BHX are just trying to use the airspace excuse as a way of restricting CVT on purely economic terms.
What do you mean "uncontrolled", the airport will have a pax limit of 2 MPPA. Which for 130 seat a/c equates to an average of 2 or 3 flights per hour - how can that threaten air transport strategy?
Why doesn't CVT have the right to develop to these levels? BHX are just trying to use the airspace excuse as a way of restricting CVT on purely economic terms.
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Ops to Jersey
With in the last hour i have heard that Baby will be operating down to Jersey can any one confirm this??
This would be in direct competition with Fly may Be??.
It was the British Midland operated this route a decade or two, until they gave it up and Jersey European to it on, are they trying to claw back some of there old operations as British Airways has done in the past operating with a franchise operator.
If the information is correct does any one know the timetable??
With in the last hour i have heard that Baby will be operating down to Jersey can any one confirm this??
This would be in direct competition with Fly may Be??.
It was the British Midland operated this route a decade or two, until they gave it up and Jersey European to it on, are they trying to claw back some of there old operations as British Airways has done in the past operating with a franchise operator.
If the information is correct does any one know the timetable??
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LH @BHX
From 6th Jan 06 LH will add a further rotation to Dusseldorf.
DUS-BHX LH 4936 ARR 1030 CR1 12345
BHX-DUS LH 4937 DEP 1100 CR1 12345
LH will operate 11 services from BHX-Germany on weekdays.
DUS-BHX LH 4936 ARR 1030 CR1 12345
BHX-DUS LH 4937 DEP 1100 CR1 12345
LH will operate 11 services from BHX-Germany on weekdays.
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Sky Europe to Krakow
Sky Europe will commence BHX - Krakow on 12th April 2006:-
NE230 Arr BHX at 07.40 and NE231 Dept BHX 08.10 - Wed / Sat Only
At last a Poland flight from BHX !
Ian
NE230 Arr BHX at 07.40 and NE231 Dept BHX 08.10 - Wed / Sat Only
At last a Poland flight from BHX !
Ian