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Flyglobespan - B767
The additional six Boeing 767s are planned as the next stage of Flyglobespans expansion plans and are additional to the sole long-haul link between Glasgow and Orlando.
Source - Airliner World April 2006
Source - Airliner World April 2006
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Why the downer on Scotland's first and only Airline with a fighting chance of bringing Long-Haul destinations to Glasgow and Edinburgh without the surcharges imposed by the others?
Have you been turned down for a job?
Why the downer on Scotland's first and only Airline with a fighting chance of bringing Long-Haul destinations to Glasgow and Edinburgh without the surcharges imposed by the others?
Have you been turned down for a job?
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Black bush youve rumbled me ,i really need to take a £40k a year pay cut to work for Scotlands only low cost long haul airline !
Seriously though , you guys obviously work there , Your engineering contractors are puting the word out at GLA that the 767 for the summer is no more ,just passing it on , this is a rumour network .
Since Globespan started ive heard tales of A340 , A330 , B777 Tristarsand DC10 .
None of that has happenened and the guys that fix your aeroplanes say that the 767 aint coming in May .
I wish you all the luck in the world , i suspect that there is a strong market for the type of product being offered and hope that it all comes together for you . I know a couple of top blokes who have gone there for the 767 .
Its just that your leader is rather fond of talking rubbish to the media !
Good Luck !
Seriously though , you guys obviously work there , Your engineering contractors are puting the word out at GLA that the 767 for the summer is no more ,just passing it on , this is a rumour network .
Since Globespan started ive heard tales of A340 , A330 , B777 Tristarsand DC10 .
None of that has happenened and the guys that fix your aeroplanes say that the 767 aint coming in May .
I wish you all the luck in the world , i suspect that there is a strong market for the type of product being offered and hope that it all comes together for you . I know a couple of top blokes who have gone there for the 767 .
Its just that your leader is rather fond of talking rubbish to the media !
Good Luck !
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Watch this space......................our 'leader' is one of the most widely respected individuals in the travel and tourism industry and is rarely given to 'talking rubbish'.
flyglobespan's Chairman looked at various types, from various manufacturers, as would any prudent man, prior to agreeing terms on the aircraft chosen to operate his routes-sensible or not?
As a Glasgow based pilot yourself I would've thought that any operator bringing flying jobs to the region would've been welcome.
flyglobespan is here to stay......................watch this space.
Watch this space......................our 'leader' is one of the most widely respected individuals in the travel and tourism industry and is rarely given to 'talking rubbish'.
flyglobespan's Chairman looked at various types, from various manufacturers, as would any prudent man, prior to agreeing terms on the aircraft chosen to operate his routes-sensible or not?
As a Glasgow based pilot yourself I would've thought that any operator bringing flying jobs to the region would've been welcome.
flyglobespan is here to stay......................watch this space.
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As with your initial post, you are way off the mark with your lifestyle and package comments.
flyglobespan started life just under 2 years ago with 2 leased Channex 737's.
Two ex Deutche BA 737-300's followed, 2005 saw exponential growth and plans are afoot to take the airline still further in geographical and actual terms.
And just a minor point of order; it's normally good form, and industry practice to wait till invited to take up a widebody command, and I very much doubt we'll see a big bird, painted orange, with you at the helm, in GLA anytime soon !
As with your initial post, you are way off the mark with your lifestyle and package comments.
flyglobespan started life just under 2 years ago with 2 leased Channex 737's.
Two ex Deutche BA 737-300's followed, 2005 saw exponential growth and plans are afoot to take the airline still further in geographical and actual terms.
And just a minor point of order; it's normally good form, and industry practice to wait till invited to take up a widebody command, and I very much doubt we'll see a big bird, painted orange, with you at the helm, in GLA anytime soon !
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Nil Further, you are well wide of the mark with your info on the package (and the B767.) Occured to anyone that they may use a different engineering contractor for the B767? Just a thought.
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Possibly way off base here, but what happened last time Globespan tried to launch a long haul service with a DC10???
Was the same "respected leader" in charge of that?
No offence intended, just asking the question....
Was the same "respected leader" in charge of that?
No offence intended, just asking the question....
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A perfectly reasonable question.
The same 'respected leader' was indeed in charge, but after due enquiry decided that the DC10, for many and varied reasons, was not the aircraft to launch his long-haul package.
flyglobespan is not some fly-by-night outfit, they have embarked on an ambitious but well researched long term programme, passengers are there, the product is there but as we all know, time will be the ultimate arbiter.
A perfectly reasonable question.
The same 'respected leader' was indeed in charge, but after due enquiry decided that the DC10, for many and varied reasons, was not the aircraft to launch his long-haul package.
flyglobespan is not some fly-by-night outfit, they have embarked on an ambitious but well researched long term programme, passengers are there, the product is there but as we all know, time will be the ultimate arbiter.
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Originally Posted by swedish
Wet lease = fully inclusive, ie fuel, crew etc
Dry = a/c only
Damp = ACMI
Dry = a/c only
Damp = ACMI
Wet Lease = ACMI
Damp = ACMI, but with reduced cabin crew (ie. only purser provided by lessor, remainder of CC's supplied by lessee)
Dry = as you correctly said, a/c only, but usually for long term contract
unfortunately you don't get fuel included with a wet lease, but alot of lessee's probably wish this would be the case! the term 'wet' can of course lead to some confusion
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you are quite correct when you say that there will never be an orange widebody at GLA with me a the helm ,a source of some relief to those poor unfortunates who have worked with me in the past and Mrs NilFurther. So that s another thing we agree on.
I do agree there is a market from Scotland for both GSM's long and shorthhaul offerings , i merely offered a rumour i had heard .
Why dont you tell us what the package is the for the 76 , i know personally three people who have signed up and they have all told me that it is i.r.o £60k with a couple of quid per hour duty pay and nothing else .No Pension , no LOL no Death In Service or private health . Whats the big secret if you know better then let us all in on what a good deal we are missing out on .
Wether you like it or not , the shadow of Messrs Cougar Leasing . JF and KN hang over you .There is plenty of info' on these boards about them and the info' on the ground at GLA is that some of the more 'interesting' practices' are on-going.
I have no doubt that the pilot community in GSM are committed hardworking proffesional who want there company to succeed, you do seem to be awful touchy though !
you are quite correct when you say that there will never be an orange widebody at GLA with me a the helm ,a source of some relief to those poor unfortunates who have worked with me in the past and Mrs NilFurther. So that s another thing we agree on.
I do agree there is a market from Scotland for both GSM's long and shorthhaul offerings , i merely offered a rumour i had heard .
Why dont you tell us what the package is the for the 76 , i know personally three people who have signed up and they have all told me that it is i.r.o £60k with a couple of quid per hour duty pay and nothing else .No Pension , no LOL no Death In Service or private health . Whats the big secret if you know better then let us all in on what a good deal we are missing out on .
Wether you like it or not , the shadow of Messrs Cougar Leasing . JF and KN hang over you .There is plenty of info' on these boards about them and the info' on the ground at GLA is that some of the more 'interesting' practices' are on-going.
I have no doubt that the pilot community in GSM are committed hardworking proffesional who want there company to succeed, you do seem to be awful touchy though !
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Not touchy old man, just, like all the pilot and management body in flyglobespan, absolutely committed to the Company's success.
flyglobespan is a wholly owned, independant airline offering short-haul B737 pilots wishing to be domiciled in Scotland and Stansted a chance to work close to where they live. No moves to Luton/Gatwick/Belfast or some corner of a foreign field to get a command needed.
The Company is now offering real prospects of career progression from short haul narrow body operations, to wide body, world wide exposure and with the advent of Long-Haul operations, opportunities may arise for employment at other bases within the UK.
Salaries are no secret but with what is offered, I'm sure you won't be applying to take a reduction from your present £100k+ salary.
A first year Captain on the B767 has a basic salary of £75k a first year First Officer £43k with annual incremental increases.
Duty pay is presently £2.10/hr, a contributory pension and Death in Service are in place, medical and licence renewals are paid for and flyglobespan don't charge for LPC/OPC's. So I would respectfully suggest that the 'three people who have signed up' have perhaps signed up for a different Company?
As mentioned earlier flyglobespan is relative new-comer to the industry, though Globespan has been in the travel business for over 30 years, and whilst T's & C's are not yet where they might be, they are as good as some and better than others, but again, as previously mentioned, watch this space.
I am unaware of any of the 'interesting practices' you refer to, but please feel free to enlighten us all.
Not touchy old man, just, like all the pilot and management body in flyglobespan, absolutely committed to the Company's success.
flyglobespan is a wholly owned, independant airline offering short-haul B737 pilots wishing to be domiciled in Scotland and Stansted a chance to work close to where they live. No moves to Luton/Gatwick/Belfast or some corner of a foreign field to get a command needed.
The Company is now offering real prospects of career progression from short haul narrow body operations, to wide body, world wide exposure and with the advent of Long-Haul operations, opportunities may arise for employment at other bases within the UK.
Salaries are no secret but with what is offered, I'm sure you won't be applying to take a reduction from your present £100k+ salary.
A first year Captain on the B767 has a basic salary of £75k a first year First Officer £43k with annual incremental increases.
Duty pay is presently £2.10/hr, a contributory pension and Death in Service are in place, medical and licence renewals are paid for and flyglobespan don't charge for LPC/OPC's. So I would respectfully suggest that the 'three people who have signed up' have perhaps signed up for a different Company?
As mentioned earlier flyglobespan is relative new-comer to the industry, though Globespan has been in the travel business for over 30 years, and whilst T's & C's are not yet where they might be, they are as good as some and better than others, but again, as previously mentioned, watch this space.
I am unaware of any of the 'interesting practices' you refer to, but please feel free to enlighten us all.
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would love to , unfortunately , Mr F would likely sue PPrune as again only rumour.
Thanks for the pay info , looks like a good deal , too bad i dont meet your exacting requirements or i might have applied .
You are quite correct in another respect , the pay at the orange mob for those with appropriate , experience is north of 100k.
havent paid for any LPC/OPC , medical or uniform .Suggest you check your facts , its all on the EZY public website .
Once again Good Luck .
I will be happy to publish my humble pie statment when the 76 takes to the sky in May.
Thanks for the pay info , looks like a good deal , too bad i dont meet your exacting requirements or i might have applied .
You are quite correct in another respect , the pay at the orange mob for those with appropriate , experience is north of 100k.
havent paid for any LPC/OPC , medical or uniform .Suggest you check your facts , its all on the EZY public website .
Once again Good Luck .
I will be happy to publish my humble pie statment when the 76 takes to the sky in May.
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767 yes or no ?
C'mon guys this is getting me feeling a bit jumpy.Are they getting the 763 from Air New Zealand or not.I've got 5 seats booked on this and a villa in Florida with a rental car and it dont make good reading that this service MIGHT operate.Anyone have any knowledge about bookings for these flights as ive noticed on the website some dates are no longer available?
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Originally Posted by cabot
C'mon guys this is getting me feeling a bit jumpy.Are they getting the 763 from Air New Zealand or not.I've got 5 seats booked on this and a villa in Florida with a rental car and it dont make good reading that this service MIGHT operate
.Sometimes I think it is better for these new routes to get off the ground before booking.
