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BA Changes?
Anyone know anything about major changes at BA.
Read something about an anouncement next week regarding LGW and MAN.
Could this be a low cost merger of city express and the LGW 737s - Willie Walsh did something similar at Air Lingus?
If so, could 737s be on their way to MAN?
All guess work here, just fishing.
Read something about an anouncement next week regarding LGW and MAN.
Could this be a low cost merger of city express and the LGW 737s - Willie Walsh did something similar at Air Lingus?
If so, could 737s be on their way to MAN?
All guess work here, just fishing.
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WW abolished the "commuter" side of EI and got rid of everything smaller than a 735, and put down orders to replace the 735s and 734s which mostly occurred after he left.
The departure of the RJs to Swiss might have happened under Rod E's watch but I would be surprised to see the 146s and Dashs survive very long, followed by the 145s.
Meanwhile Loganair quietly expands...
WW abolished the "commuter" side of EI and got rid of everything smaller than a 735, and put down orders to replace the 735s and 734s which mostly occurred after he left.
The departure of the RJs to Swiss might have happened under Rod E's watch but I would be surprised to see the 146s and Dashs survive very long, followed by the 145s.
Meanwhile Loganair quietly expands...
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Just like to express that it's a bit annoying with all this spell checking that seems to be going on here quite frequently...
Please bare in mind that many of us are not native English speakers and are just trying to make our contribution aswell..
Prime interest is aviation, correct spelling somewhat further down the list...
ThanX
Please bare in mind that many of us are not native English speakers and are just trying to make our contribution aswell..
Prime interest is aviation, correct spelling somewhat further down the list...
ThanX
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I don't claim to have the inside track, just observing what has happened to CX routes and aircraft over the last couple of years and WW's record at EI. If you have better info let's have it.
I don't claim to have the inside track, just observing what has happened to CX routes and aircraft over the last couple of years and WW's record at EI. If you have better info let's have it.
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Not at all Mark, I'm sure given your protracted observations of the company and the proclivities of WW that you may well have a point.
Just out of interest, say the Dash 8s, RJs and Embraers were to be scrapped - what sort of routes would the company be able to operate with the remaining GPUs?
Just out of interest, say the Dash 8s, RJs and Embraers were to be scrapped - what sort of routes would the company be able to operate with the remaining GPUs?
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Dash 8 leases just been renewed...WW visited Manch HQ a couple of weeks ago...asked lots of pointed questions but generally happy with direction BACX is going in. The past (in this case) is not the future.
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Dash 8 leases just been renewed...WW visited Manch HQ a couple of weeks ago...asked lots of pointed questions but generally happy with direction BACX is going in. The past (in this case) is not the future.
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you have to understand the brit humour guys it is not how you spell it or how many times in this forum you are pulled over for misspelling it is just a wee bit of fun please do not get offended by this it is all in good humouir or something like that the main thing is have a good un
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Are you thinking of leaving your current Airline?
Seems half of you guys want to leave and only 12 months in......
as well as GB's several Airbus?
Are you thinking of leaving your current Airline?
Seems half of you guys want to leave and only 12 months in......
If so, could 737s be on their way to MAN?
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Sorry Skipper,
Dont know about the regions and MAN but WW has already made his announcement regarding LGW...That is they are basically to remain as they are but become profitable by 2007 or its "good luck and good night"!!!!
Dont know about the regions and MAN but WW has already made his announcement regarding LGW...That is they are basically to remain as they are but become profitable by 2007 or its "good luck and good night"!!!!
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regarding LGW...That is they are basically to remain as they are but become profitable by 2007 or its "good luck and good night"!!!!
Sadly with the intransigence of the ground staff unions at LHR, it would appear that hammering the T&Cs of all staff at LGW using the above threat, is a softer option.
It's time to get the savings from somewhere where there are genuinely worthwhile savings to be had.
All IMHO, of course!
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If by the GPUs you mean the 146 fleet, well Willie took the axe to them at EI (and did his best to shaft the crews too). I guess it depends how much pressure BA will be under to maintain a presence at LCY - and a few Steep Approach modded 318s could be the answer to that although you can't get IAE ones and that's what BA likes these days.
An interesting tack would be re-equip CX with Embraer 175/190s to replace the 146/RJ on non-steep/short routes (with the assistance of a trade-in of the 145 and/or conversion of the 17 options). Air Canada mainline have just taken some 175s and the early noises seem to be favourable.
Meanwhile AC Jazz is pushing further and further south with their CRJ705s - if Willie was feeling combative this could be his CX model - replace UK/near Europe 320/737 with fast RJs.
Sector lengths for Eurofleet 757s/320s/737s would get longer and longer to replace the Eurofleet 767s. 4 SH 767s are being converted to longhaul and Rod E has said "I would not be surprised if we dusk some more, which will give us some long haul growth."
If by the GPUs you mean the 146 fleet, well Willie took the axe to them at EI (and did his best to shaft the crews too). I guess it depends how much pressure BA will be under to maintain a presence at LCY - and a few Steep Approach modded 318s could be the answer to that although you can't get IAE ones and that's what BA likes these days.
An interesting tack would be re-equip CX with Embraer 175/190s to replace the 146/RJ on non-steep/short routes (with the assistance of a trade-in of the 145 and/or conversion of the 17 options). Air Canada mainline have just taken some 175s and the early noises seem to be favourable.
Meanwhile AC Jazz is pushing further and further south with their CRJ705s - if Willie was feeling combative this could be his CX model - replace UK/near Europe 320/737 with fast RJs.
Sector lengths for Eurofleet 757s/320s/737s would get longer and longer to replace the Eurofleet 767s. 4 SH 767s are being converted to longhaul and Rod E has said "I would not be surprised if we dusk some more, which will give us some long haul growth."
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Marc,
Apologies again - GPUs are ground power units. If the name hasn't given it away, their purpose is to power the aircraft on the ground. They get wheeled over to the aircraft and plugged in, the FO (First Officer) puts a token in and you get electricity for 15 minutes.
The point I was trying to make, albeit in a rather childish fashion, sarcasm being the lowest form of wit and etcetera, was that if those three types you mentioned initially were to be scrapped, BACX would have no aeroplanes left and nothing but the aforementioned GPUs. That's rather a pickle for an airline isn't it? Therefore, in closing, I found your suggestion highly unlikely as perhaps not obvious my final flourish.
From reading your last post, you certainly seem to know your aircraft and have an eye for whats going on in the industry, I thought for a moment you were about to sell me my own regional jet. The thing is, this is not fantasy association football (soccer), and aircraft types are not changed as unilaterally and easily as I think your posts suggest. None of this wheeler dealing is going to happen - you can't just scrap all the aircraft a company owns, or in the case of BA, its 737s and 320s. As I'm sure you appreciate, its not just the cost of the aircraft hulls - but all the infrastructure, legalities, administration and expensively-trained, specialised staff employed for that aircraft, like engineers, and cabin crew.
RMC,
I don't understand the point you're making, but I do love what you did with my nom de plume - fantastic! Although I think if you'd managed to couple it with something that rhymed, in the fashion of children in a playground, say, you would have got extra points.
Apologies again - GPUs are ground power units. If the name hasn't given it away, their purpose is to power the aircraft on the ground. They get wheeled over to the aircraft and plugged in, the FO (First Officer) puts a token in and you get electricity for 15 minutes.
The point I was trying to make, albeit in a rather childish fashion, sarcasm being the lowest form of wit and etcetera, was that if those three types you mentioned initially were to be scrapped, BACX would have no aeroplanes left and nothing but the aforementioned GPUs. That's rather a pickle for an airline isn't it? Therefore, in closing, I found your suggestion highly unlikely as perhaps not obvious my final flourish.
From reading your last post, you certainly seem to know your aircraft and have an eye for whats going on in the industry, I thought for a moment you were about to sell me my own regional jet. The thing is, this is not fantasy association football (soccer), and aircraft types are not changed as unilaterally and easily as I think your posts suggest. None of this wheeler dealing is going to happen - you can't just scrap all the aircraft a company owns, or in the case of BA, its 737s and 320s. As I'm sure you appreciate, its not just the cost of the aircraft hulls - but all the infrastructure, legalities, administration and expensively-trained, specialised staff employed for that aircraft, like engineers, and cabin crew.
RMC,
I don't understand the point you're making, but I do love what you did with my nom de plume - fantastic! Although I think if you'd managed to couple it with something that rhymed, in the fashion of children in a playground, say, you would have got extra points.
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Caudillo,
I was having an indirect swipe at the spell checkers by
1. Spelling your name wrong
2. Correcting a spelling which,today,is commonly accepted as standard/cool. Only dinosaurs would make this statement about thanx.
As someone said Brit humour
Can't think of a way to make it rhyme.
I was having an indirect swipe at the spell checkers by
1. Spelling your name wrong
2. Correcting a spelling which,today,is commonly accepted as standard/cool. Only dinosaurs would make this statement about thanx.
As someone said Brit humour
Can't think of a way to make it rhyme.
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I thought your GPU comment was some comment on the 146 series I hadn't heard yet (four hairdryers/five APUs etc), sorry I didn't catch your drift.
As for fantasy football, well speculation is a bit like that isn't it? The BA order book is pretty bare so no clues there except those 17 145 options...
I thought your GPU comment was some comment on the 146 series I hadn't heard yet (four hairdryers/five APUs etc), sorry I didn't catch your drift.
As for fantasy football, well speculation is a bit like that isn't it? The BA order book is pretty bare so no clues there except those 17 145 options...
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I hardly think that WW whether he was happy or not with BACX MAN is going to admit that and even if he did i doubt it carrys a lot of weight. That said BACX are doing a lot of interviews at Cranebank for D8 drivers. Maybe a comforting thought for you guys is that anarchy reigns at LHR and that is WW's problem one that will not go away and one that the shareholders will want to see sorted and he does not have a lot of time.