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I suspect the LPA change has nothing to do with lack of demand, how on earth could there NOT be demand for a LPA flight during the winter months?!
Hopefully Astreaus are beginning to see the benefits of operating from LBA given that they have the charter market pretty much there for the taking if they so wish. It's nice to see a charter airline showing fresh interest in the airport.
Finally, for future reference, please note that it was user JET2LBIA who posted that old Blackpool news in this thread and not myself, so keep those death threats away from me!
Hopefully Astreaus are beginning to see the benefits of operating from LBA given that they have the charter market pretty much there for the taking if they so wish. It's nice to see a charter airline showing fresh interest in the airport.
Finally, for future reference, please note that it was user JET2LBIA who posted that old Blackpool news in this thread and not myself, so keep those death threats away from me!
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Just as a side note, will next years summer charter programme be the best on record, in terms of routes and pax numbers?
Destinations (Some more than once a week), PMI, MAH, IBZ, ALC, AGP, REU, LPA, ACE, TFS, FUE, VRN, ZTH, HER, RHO, DLM, BJV, VAR, BOJ, LCA, PFO, CFU, Nice to see a decent programme for a change!
Destinations (Some more than once a week), PMI, MAH, IBZ, ALC, AGP, REU, LPA, ACE, TFS, FUE, VRN, ZTH, HER, RHO, DLM, BJV, VAR, BOJ, LCA, PFO, CFU, Nice to see a decent programme for a change!
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I'm not sure that was exactly a "wish list", more of a comment.
We all know a fair chunk of that list will not re-appear for a long time, if ever, as tourism in most of the former Yugoslavia region collapsed as a result of the Balkan war. Most UK regional airports had Yugoslavia services before and few do now.
The popular tourist-destinations which have replaced them are exactly the ones being targeted by Astreus and which have generally been very poorly served from LBA. As LBA stated we are actually looking at decent program (for LBA) for S06 and there is reason to be optimistic that this trend will continue. Astreus opening up new destinations by providing a low-risk method for IT companies to offer small amounts of capacity from LBA seems to be the way forward.
We all know a fair chunk of that list will not re-appear for a long time, if ever, as tourism in most of the former Yugoslavia region collapsed as a result of the Balkan war. Most UK regional airports had Yugoslavia services before and few do now.
The popular tourist-destinations which have replaced them are exactly the ones being targeted by Astreus and which have generally been very poorly served from LBA. As LBA stated we are actually looking at decent program (for LBA) for S06 and there is reason to be optimistic that this trend will continue. Astreus opening up new destinations by providing a low-risk method for IT companies to offer small amounts of capacity from LBA seems to be the way forward.
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Opening up a very contentious issue, would LBA benefit from a name change.This seems to be fashionable at the moment.
I have to say that having travelled for many years, I often hear derogatory comments in particular about one of our cities so the location as a whole does not always seem so desirable to foreigners.
I remember once making a reservation to LBA over the telephone to the KLM Frankfurt office and the guy who answered asked, "are you sure you want to go there?,its a very dangerous place"
Extreme I know, but the overall image is not great.
Years ago the airport authorities were being pressurised by the airlines for a name change.
Maybe Fred Trueman International!
Leaving jokes and sentiment aside because we are all proud of our respective cities, would it benefit comercially from this.
I have to say that having travelled for many years, I often hear derogatory comments in particular about one of our cities so the location as a whole does not always seem so desirable to foreigners.
I remember once making a reservation to LBA over the telephone to the KLM Frankfurt office and the guy who answered asked, "are you sure you want to go there?,its a very dangerous place"
Extreme I know, but the overall image is not great.
Years ago the airport authorities were being pressurised by the airlines for a name change.
Maybe Fred Trueman International!
Leaving jokes and sentiment aside because we are all proud of our respective cities, would it benefit comercially from this.
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Well, it's not hard to work out which of the two cities is viewed less positively, and I am born and bred from there!
Many tour companies and even some airlines already market the airport as just 'Leeds' rather than it's full name of Leeds/Bradford. I don't think a fancy name change is required, Leeds is a big enough city for overseas travellers to know where the airport is located. I wouldn't kick up too much of a fuss if Bradford was dropped from the name, most outside of Yorkshire seem oblivious to it being there in the first place! However, it will never happen so long as Bradford Council retain their slice of ownership.
Should the airport ever be sold off, then maybe.
Many tour companies and even some airlines already market the airport as just 'Leeds' rather than it's full name of Leeds/Bradford. I don't think a fancy name change is required, Leeds is a big enough city for overseas travellers to know where the airport is located. I wouldn't kick up too much of a fuss if Bradford was dropped from the name, most outside of Yorkshire seem oblivious to it being there in the first place! However, it will never happen so long as Bradford Council retain their slice of ownership.
Should the airport ever be sold off, then maybe.
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I was actually talking about dropping both names.
A lot more could be said that came from overseas visitors that I brought to the UK when I worked in Bradford for many years.
But, it has to be also said that going back years, it was Bradford council that supported the airport more than Leeds. At the time, the idiots on Leeds city council were talking about closing LBA and moving to Thorne Waste.
As I said, we all have our sentiments, but they do not mean anything to to the rest of the world.
LBA is now an International airport.
The people of Doncaster are proud of their town, but from a marketing point of view, Peel seem to have got it right.
A lot more could be said that came from overseas visitors that I brought to the UK when I worked in Bradford for many years.
But, it has to be also said that going back years, it was Bradford council that supported the airport more than Leeds. At the time, the idiots on Leeds city council were talking about closing LBA and moving to Thorne Waste.
As I said, we all have our sentiments, but they do not mean anything to to the rest of the world.
LBA is now an International airport.
The people of Doncaster are proud of their town, but from a marketing point of view, Peel seem to have got it right.
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LBA name change?
I spoke to a councilor some time ago about this very issue, she said it would be impossible while the airports main share holders are Leeds and Bradford councils. Speaking to other members of management and marketing at the airport some time ago, it was noted that it would also be a very costly exercise.
Airports such as 'East Midlands' opted to follow the LBA way in choosing to name their airport after a city, 'Nottingham' East Midlands'.
Long term, the city of Leeds is likely to have its boundrys extended. The idea of a 'Greater Leeds' area has been suggested by the Chamber of Commerce. Business leaders from Leeds, Bradford, Wakefield and Harrogate have said they think the whole area would benefit from this, with the city of Leeds been the 'powerhouse' of finance, trade and industry of Yorkshire.
There is already talk that the whole of West Yorkshire and parts of North Yorkshire could become part of a 'Greater Leeds'. Cities such as Bradford would not disappear, but would become part of the 'Greater Leeds'.
After this has happened, a move towards choosing a new name for the airport will be more appropriate. It is my opinion that the 'Leeds' part should stay whatever happens. Liverpool get away with 'John Lennon' because he is world famous. I'm not sure 'Fred Trueman' is a world famous name?
Here are a few ideas.....
Leeds International
Leeds Bronte International
Greater Leeds International
Leeds Harry Ramsdon International
and of course, because the Greater Leeds boundry would include Halifax and Huddersfield, you can even have a
Leeds Patrick Stuart International
As for Robin Hood Doncaster Shefield, well, if Leeds wanted to include fictional names as well, this opens up a whole new ball game!
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Airports such as 'East Midlands' opted to follow the LBA way in choosing to name their airport after a city, 'Nottingham' East Midlands'.
Long term, the city of Leeds is likely to have its boundrys extended. The idea of a 'Greater Leeds' area has been suggested by the Chamber of Commerce. Business leaders from Leeds, Bradford, Wakefield and Harrogate have said they think the whole area would benefit from this, with the city of Leeds been the 'powerhouse' of finance, trade and industry of Yorkshire.
There is already talk that the whole of West Yorkshire and parts of North Yorkshire could become part of a 'Greater Leeds'. Cities such as Bradford would not disappear, but would become part of the 'Greater Leeds'.
After this has happened, a move towards choosing a new name for the airport will be more appropriate. It is my opinion that the 'Leeds' part should stay whatever happens. Liverpool get away with 'John Lennon' because he is world famous. I'm not sure 'Fred Trueman' is a world famous name?
Here are a few ideas.....
Leeds International
Leeds Bronte International
Greater Leeds International
Leeds Harry Ramsdon International
and of course, because the Greater Leeds boundry would include Halifax and Huddersfield, you can even have a
Leeds Patrick Stuart International
As for Robin Hood Doncaster Shefield, well, if Leeds wanted to include fictional names as well, this opens up a whole new ball game!
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How about
LeedsBradfordWakefieldKirkleesCalderdale International.
Many years ago "Bradford" was going to be taken out of the name but Bradford council would not have it. Quite funny when the r/t for the airport is "Leeds" and not "Leeds Bradford". Also if you listen on the r/t some pilots still call it "Yeadon".
LeedsBradfordWakefieldKirkleesCalderdale International.
Many years ago "Bradford" was going to be taken out of the name but Bradford council would not have it. Quite funny when the r/t for the airport is "Leeds" and not "Leeds Bradford". Also if you listen on the r/t some pilots still call it "Yeadon".
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Rumours are circulating that Jet2 will not re-instate their LBA-Venice route next summer.
From the monthly CAA data it has not been the star route from LBA but loads have been significantly higher than their MAN-VCE route.
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From the monthly CAA data it has not been the star route from LBA but loads have been significantly higher than their MAN-VCE route.
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Taxiway Delta
Just an update on taxiway Delta
The laying of the concrete is expected to start next week, this process is expected to take around seven days weather permiting. The taxiway should be operational around Christmas or just after.
Any news on the soon to be announced Jet2 service?
The laying of the concrete is expected to start next week, this process is expected to take around seven days weather permiting. The taxiway should be operational around Christmas or just after.
Any news on the soon to be announced Jet2 service?
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Thought the most interesting news for a long time was the revelation this week that the council in Leeds are going to start looking for a private partner to run the airport.
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Thought the most interesting news for a long time was the revelation this week that the council in Leeds are going to start looking for a private partner to run the airport.
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On the old Leeds Bradford thread this topic came up plenty of times. With all the costs for much-needed construction projects looming having a private partner in control of LBA is probably more important now than ever before.
The scheme under discussion seems to be the sale of a 51% stake to a private company. The carrot of about 200 million pounds (approximate sale price of NCL stake a few years ago) is being dangled in front of the local voters.
The Yorkshire Evening Post ran a Comment article that was surprisingly strongly in favour of privatisation.
http://www.leedstoday.net/ViewArticl...icleID=1230812
With the composition of the five Councils that own the airport as they stand at present (ie Con-Lib alliances in Leeds and Bradford), this is the first time that the issue of privatisation has made it past the old ideological hurdles.
The scheme under discussion seems to be the sale of a 51% stake to a private company. The carrot of about 200 million pounds (approximate sale price of NCL stake a few years ago) is being dangled in front of the local voters.
The Yorkshire Evening Post ran a Comment article that was surprisingly strongly in favour of privatisation.
http://www.leedstoday.net/ViewArticl...icleID=1230812
With the composition of the five Councils that own the airport as they stand at present (ie Con-Lib alliances in Leeds and Bradford), this is the first time that the issue of privatisation has made it past the old ideological hurdles.
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