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Old 27th Apr 2006, 05:57
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Isn’t it about time that a planning application was submitted concerning the existing terminal, the new proposed 6 pack and general road improvements to the central area?

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Start of winter 2005 season report

Top 5 airlines by ATMs

58% Easyjet
14% Ryanair
6% Wizz
5% Monarch
4% Aer Arann
13% Others

Top 5 airlines by Seats

58.8% Easyjet
18.7% Ryanair
7.3% Monarch
7.2% Wizz
2.5% Britannia
5.6% Others

By comparison in the winter of 2003 easyjet was at 62% for ATM’s and 77.3% for seats. These figures are actually lower than was the case as Now Airlines was showing 7% for both ATM’s and seats but never actually took to the air.
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Isn’t it about time that a planning application was submitted concerning the existing terminal, the new proposed 6 pack and general road improvements to the central area?
Expected late May/early June - and it won't be just for the proposed Southeast Apron and roadworks...

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4 postcards bought from the airport shop in 1969. Only Monarch is still around.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4...stcard28wv.jpg

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/245...stcard19cq.jpg

http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/405...stcard30tf.jpg

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/302...stcard47fh.jpg

Just look at those cars in the 3rd photo
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Grrr

Look at the tree line in the back ground of the first image!
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I have spent years wondering about those trees in that photo. The photo must have been taken with a telephoto lens but I can’t remember trees like that which must be located around the border to the former council tip. Here is another photo taken years earlier close to the old control tower looking in the general direction of the tip and what is now Wigmore Valley Park. Plenty of trees in this photo too! http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/6...fminney2nj.jpg
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I think you'll find those trees are further away than you think and not on the airport boundary. The photo of the Proctor was taken on the small taxiway loop that went from Percival's factory, where the industrial estate is now off Frank Lester Way, to the apron, passing in front of the old control tower. Part of which was in use until a few years ago through Gate 2.
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Manchester bound passengers from Israeli were stranded for two-and-a-half hours at Luton while the airport had problems unloading baggage from incoming Israel flights.
Passenger Mrs Rosenblatt said: "Luton could not cope with the baggage from five Israel flights. When we arrived in Manchester four hours late at 3.50am we had a piece of luggage missing. But there was tons of extra baggage in Manchester from Luton passengers."

Luton Airport spokesman Jackie Bunyan said: "Flights from Tel Aviv were delayed. These delays, while very unfortunate, were completely outside the
control of London Luton airport. The aircraft arrived at unscheduled times, creating operational challenges at a time when the airport was already
committed to scheduled activities."
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"Flights from Tel Aviv were delayed. These delays, while very unfortunate, were completely outside the control of London Luton Airport. The aircraft arrived at unscheduled times, creating operational challenges at a time when the airport was already committed to scheduled activities."
In other words the handling agents were unable to cope with the influx of additional flights at times that were unexpected & unplanned, because they failed to roster adequate additional ground staff. However, LLAO also failed to provide the necessary additional baggage handlers required at the time resulting in a massive all-round cock-up. And unfortunately for the handling agent involved...if yer pays peanuts yer gets monkeys!!

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I thought that all the baggage handlers were employed by the handling agents and have been for a number of years, or has it changed again?
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Luton was at its most efficient when staff who worked direct for the airport did the baggage handling for the whole airport. National regulations were then changed which allowed the handling agents to take on the responsibility for the loading and unloading of aircraft. The result of this change means there are now three companies at Luton who handle baggage. This means that company one can get over whelmed with an influx of flights while the staff of company two and three are sitting around doing nothing.

I had this very scenario in the early hours two years ago at Luton. Our flight was one of three that came in within minutes of each other. Servisair who only had one baggage crew on duty handled all three flights. I think we waited an hour and a half for our luggage.
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News article on lutons website regarding new aer arann routes, new wizz air servives to bourgas, ljubljana and split and also the direct service to sofia have also started, gona be a busy summer
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Nothing scientific but I have just looked at the airports website which is showing 17 departures and 7 arrivals between 7:00 and 8:00.

24 movements in 1 hour, which doesn’t include business jets is good going seeing that the airport does not have a full-length parallel taxiway. Well done Luton’s ATC for keeping everything moving! It’s a pity the same can’t be said about road traffic in the central area at peak times.
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Having been a pap into Luton within the last 2 weeks and also been out on the ramp as staff, the delays that I've seen have been down to the crap old buses the airport insist on using.

If you haven't had the pleasure of a ride on one, expect a couple of very large steps up onto the bus, followed by a session of getting up close and personal with your fellow pax and then to top it off, the smell of diesel fumes coming into the bus itself.

Even LCY uses Cobus vehicles so why does LTN have these antiques on site?
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24 movements in 1 hour, which doesn’t include business jets is good going seeing that the airport does not have a full-length parallel taxiway. Well done Luton’s ATC for keeping everything moving!
Unless you obtained this from ACL's data it also, won't include cargo or positioning flights, the latter of which TOM and MON still undertake to/from places such as LGW, BHX and MAN. Rumour has it that cargo business will take-off (no pun intended...) big time once the runway is again available 24/7, and whilst +/- 75% operates at night, there are some flights that operate in the first or second hour of each 'day'.

The 1700 to 1800 and 2130 to 2230 local hours are also looking like being rather challenging.

At least the new Luton controlled airspace comes on line on Thursday and so should make ATC's job a little less complex. Only six years late, of course...

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Grrr

Thursday, Mr Olney 1 Bravo will be camped out waiting for the first use of the new airspace. Unfortunately, the long range Buster Forecast is for a summer of westerly wind (probably caused by my posture and the frozen fish they give me to eat)! I hope the 'wider' General Aviation fraternity have been made fully aware of the new airspace and if you are a spotter and in need of a new home, close to Jct12 M1 when 08 is in use would be a a good spot when the cloud is above 5000ft!

The poor old 'Mad Hatter' in the tower, if the airport gets much busier, he will finally have to 'wake up and work'!

The image below shows a day out given to some of the air traffic controllers at Luton for working so hard in 2005!

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The poor old 'Mad Hatter' in the tower, if the airport gets much busier, he will finally have to 'wake up and work'!
Be afraid Buster - be very afraid.

We know where you live....

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Grrr

The image below shows a day out given to some of the air traffic controllers at Luton for working so hard in 2005!
You should get out more, Buster: that lot all retired over five years ago and there's now hardly anyone left at Luton ATC who's over 45. It's not like it was when you were a lad! Or maybe you're referring instead, to the Luton guys at West Drayton??
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Western Airspace Extension

Thursday, Mr Olney 1 Bravo will be camped out waiting for the first use of the new airspace.
Buster - I should be so lucky .. I will be at work slaving over a smoking PC! At least I don't need a passport to get to work!

We are not all like you, lounging in your bear pit all day alternately trying to cadge snacks off of the visitors or scaring them away!
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http://www.uk-airport-news.info/stan...ws-070506a.htm

Good news for Luton if they can get their new runway and terminal up and running by 2012?

The controversial battle over expanding London's airports took a new twist last night after BAA, the airports operator, admitted that a new runway at Stansted Airport was unlikely to open for another decade. The delay will put expansion back until after the earliest deadline for Heathrow's enlargement has passed, making it more likely that Heathrow's third runway will open first.

The government's hotly contested air transport White Paper calls for two new runways to be built in south east England: the first at Stansted by 2011-12 and the second at Gatwick or Heathrow no earlier than 2015. However BAA, which operates all three airports, has said Stansted, which has already delayed by a couple of years, is now not expected to open until 2015-16.
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