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Old 13th Sep 2005, 09:51
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expelair- I can assure you the 767 will make LAS as I have done it many times ! and thats in charter config so in sched- no problem !
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Old 14th Sep 2005, 11:59
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What is BMI's managment on just now, they do not know what they want to be. Whats happened to the A330 they were getting (is that not the one that was with EK on lease) or is it now going to TCX as i belive they are getting another A330 this winter, (this was rumoured a few years ago that TC were going to take on one of the BMI A330's). A good airline going bad again, come on Sir Richard rescue them.
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Old 19th Oct 2005, 08:28
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bmi Longhaul & Manchester

I expect all of the 330's to move to LHR and serve the Middle East & Asia from there.

I don't think the USA & or the Caribbean has made money for bmi out of Manchester and with the new MAN - JFK on Delta I think they'll be forced in to more profitable markets that are eastbound from LHR

that's what I'd do anyway

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Old 19th Oct 2005, 09:24
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I know where BMI can get more A330's
from!

3 Ex Swiss/Lufhansa parked at CGN

If only they WANTED them.....
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Old 19th Oct 2005, 14:20
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I don't think the USA & or the Caribbean has made money for bmi out of Manchester and with the new MAN - JFK on Delta I think they'll be forced in to more profitable markets that are eastbound from LHR
What a load of rubbish, longhaul ex MAN has done very well for itself, with the exception of UVF and that was to do with fuel costs.
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Old 19th Oct 2005, 14:36
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the A330´s at CGN are supposed to go to TAP already
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Old 19th Oct 2005, 14:45
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so the source of the B767 is?
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Old 19th Oct 2005, 18:19
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I heard rumour that the 767 was coming from United so that the biz/ Y+/Y config could remain. It's going to have all the usual IFE with seat back screens aswell. They are sooo not going to go down the road of that clapped out 757 ever again if they have any sense!

Rest In Peace BD701/702 soon to be dead an buried thanx to the 757.....only 10 days left to go!

Wont miss the 757 on bit though mind you!!

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Old 19th Oct 2005, 21:30
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Either TAP or Turkish I think.....
never mind BMI couldnt fill'em anyway!

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Old 23rd Oct 2005, 13:05
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Unhappy

I'm gonna miss Fanndis. As one of crew members that has worked on it all summer, we have all grown quite fond of the 'shed' as some put it. It's been reliable, much more so than the 330's. Yeah the pax hated it at first, but bmi are lucky enough to employ great crew who have made the difference!

Funny but the load factors have been very good all summer, even now. My last 6 sectors have had a full cabin in the pointy end! But it doesnt make any money!!!!!
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Old 24th Oct 2005, 12:02
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Your business model and fares settings are doomed if you are flying full and losing money on a route. But then it is bmi, the most unfocussed airline in the UK. Used to be better than BA at what they did, now they can't even match easyJet.

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Old 24th Oct 2005, 13:44
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A bit harsh on bmi

I am no defender of bmi, they do some daft things but i think i can see some light at the end of the tunnel(no not a train) whilst the NBM is far from perfect,having BA go on food strike when it was launched was a master stroke!!

If and its looking closer than in years, Mandy and his Euro mates can do a deal on US/UK access from LHR then, just then there is a chance bmi might just make it happen, that they can afford new kit is not in doubt, but why buy when you have nowhere profitable to use it, short haul from LHR is going down the pan, it can only a matter of time before baby/regional tidy up the LHR mess.

I think NT has made a good start after being thrown in at the deep end, sure crews are moaning like stink about having to travel in Y whilst on duty travel and not been fed, but the airline shouldn't be run for the benifit of its staff, its punters that pay the bills i have often travelled up to Manchester and seen a sea of Blue uniforms all in C class ,but no one else.

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Old 25th Oct 2005, 07:18
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lexxity I wish it we're true but look what happened to Washington? Look at the now shelved plans for Las Vegas?
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Old 25th Oct 2005, 12:00
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Desk Driver - Interested to hear what you've heard on Las Vegas being shelved, do you have any more details?
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Old 25th Oct 2005, 19:42
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Las Vegas shelved...what complete and utter rubbish, bmi might not be making the best decisisions right now but give them some credit. They aren't that stupid. Always has a load factor of at least 95%.

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Old 31st Oct 2005, 22:31
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Shame that bmi seem to have lost the plot...dismantle an increasingly successful MAN - US programme to pitch into a LHR -Riyhad service that no-one else seems to want.....what its best (ie regular/ price not so much of an issue) passengers want is certainty not here today gone tomorrow.
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 07:14
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From a commercial point some of the critical comments are unfounded, with regard to company decisions as the recent LHR / BMI Baby action; displays an effective management. However as BMI do not / have not had 767's would it not have been better used by outsourcing the complete operation including the CC or postponing the operation.
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 12:38
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I think thats a terrible idea... we have lost enough of our hard working fantastic crew in manchester without getting rid of more to outsource to some other airline which might not have the same standards of service!
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 12:41
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Shelved Las Vegas

Always has a load factor of at least 95%.
Thats simply not True "agent X"

By Shelved plans for Las vegas I meant they shelved the growth plans for that route not the route itself
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Old 1st Nov 2005, 14:21
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Load factors aren't the point. You can fill the entire aircraft and still lose money if the yields are wrong. If the Manchester long haul was such a gold mine then why did BA drop LAX, BMI drop IAD, AAL drop DFW etc etc etc. They are not high yield routes and are tricky to make money on. Not however impossible given the right people and effort......
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