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Old 6th Sep 2005, 12:50
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TTT - you seem to think that Cork Airport can choose which routes airlines can start. If FR wnt to start LGW-ORK then there is nothing the airport can do. Yes, they can not give them the best costs, but if FR know that they will lose on it anyway, but are doing this to get rid of easy, or make life hard for them, there is nothing that Cork can do. If ORK had gone to FR saying start LGW it woud have been one thing, but FR will only do what they want to do.

However, maybe someone should look at the EC commission for anti-competitive behaviour if it can be shown that FR are only doing this to show their dominance - but easy would never admit to that!!!
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Ryanair are in the business of flying their aeroplanes into airports that have very low costs for them and in snn's case the airport are in fact giving Ryanair a kickback for marketing to begin new routes!

With flights from Cork to Dublin and Gatwick Ryanair will be paying the top prices from day one. What a strange new philosophy from Ryanair? So much potential new opportunity for Ryanair to get good deals from Cork to fly new routes but Dublin and Gatwick is as much as Cork can achieve? Frankly, this beats me. I am unable to get my head around it at the moment. Was the Cork Airport Authority involved at all in Ryanair's plans or is it conceivable that it could be a solo run by Ryanair? In any case it is GUBU?

It is my understanding that Ryanair needs to hire a lot of captains and that contract captains are earning very good money. This must be affecting Ryanair's bottom line? ORK-DUB and ORK-LGW are interesting in that both routes are of short duration so would be very good experience builders for first and second officers to help bring them up to captain levels in terms of hours, landings and takeoffs. Plenty of marginable weather at Cork to practise crosswind and low visibility approaches!

This is getting more and more confusing!
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Old 6th Sep 2005, 14:55
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Some of the DUB rotations have been removed from the Cork website, which could mean someone jumped the gun, Ryanair are playing games, or the whole thing's a crock of sh!te. I must see if I can bump into the same person later in the week.

Does anyone know roughly what appeared in the Examiner.
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Old 6th Sep 2005, 15:08
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Unfortunately, I left it on the train this morning, so it's providing interesting reading for someone in Dordrecht.

Basically, Michael Cawley said they had no plans to launch Cork-Dublin. I noticed that he didn't mention Gatwick at all.
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Old 6th Sep 2005, 16:12
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Unfortunately, all the Ryanair flights to from to Dublin and Gatwick have been removed from www.corkairport.ie
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Old 6th Sep 2005, 17:15
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Corkairport didn't make those timetables up and publish them on their site for fun.

However in doing so they have clearly juped the gun and no doubt pissed a few people off in FR, as Ryanair should be the first to announce the new routes, not Cork Airport.

With so many aircraft on the way they've got to put them somewhere. I doubt this is the last we'll hear of this.

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Old 6th Sep 2005, 17:36
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Cork Airport don't put the timetables up at all. The link refers you to timetables that are put up by Innovata.

Looking through them, there are a number of errors on the BMIBaby flights serving Cork this Winter.
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Old 6th Sep 2005, 17:48
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A full-page advert in the Independent (the London one, not the Irish one!) showed Ryanair offering Cork - Stansted. No mention of Gatwick. Perhaps EasyJet will have it to themselves after all?

easyJet are offered on the Cork Airport during November, but no-one else into Gatwick.

I've just looked at the easy web site and they're offering 24 November for just under 5 euros one-way. There are 3 lfights a day offered. Haven't bothered checking the Ryanair site.

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Old 7th Sep 2005, 11:42
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All very well, but has anyone heard that bmi baby is dropping the ORK-EMA rotation and that Ryanair were going to take up the route???
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Old 7th Sep 2005, 23:23
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Baby pulled off the Cork to Gatwick route when EZ announced they were coming on it. So its certainly plausible...where did you get your info from this time?
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Old 9th Sep 2005, 11:23
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Heard it from couple of people, and its on the bmibaby website, no more bookings after end of Oct.
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Did you all see yesterday's Sunday Tribune newspaper? The newspaper's business section had not one but two sizeable stories about the likely upcoming air wars firstly between Cork and Shannon and secondly at Cork itself if Ryanair begin flights to Dublin and London Gatwick.

Comment was made about the Ryanair ads for the flights to Nantes from Shannon and the placing of the ads so close to Cork Airport on the Kinsale Road and a comment from the Aer Arann boss, Padraigh O'Ceidigh, saying how he believes in his working model and that his team is cute enough to deal with anything the market throws at it.

The paper reckons on relations between Cork and snn even in the Aer Rianta days being at times like the former Yugoslavia and that you would need a character like Marshall Tito to keep things under control!

The newspaper stories end badly with a dumb remark about how the developing of new continental European destinations from Cork collapsed with the exit of Jetmagic. You would get the impression that the new routes from Aer Lingus to Europe somehow don't count!

Still, it keeps Cork Airport in the full glare of publicity and I know that publicity is the one thing that get the attention of the shower up at Cork!
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Old 13th Sep 2005, 06:42
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Lets hope the RE boys are cute

FR to announce DUB and LGW in line with the timetables on the Cork Airport website today

New services from SNN and NOC too
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Old 13th Sep 2005, 09:51
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They are showing up for booking now.
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Old 13th Sep 2005, 14:36
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ORK-STN have reverted to 4 x daily for the winter, now that LGW is 2 x daily. Jan/Feb/Mar down to 3 x daily as they usually do each year.
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