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like wings and wheels don't get an entry in the MEL
Hence why no mention of wings 
When did you become the Captain?
Certain life would be a lot easier if people engaged brain before commenting
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Not surprise!
One of my moms friends works for Onur Air, and even she said that she will never fly on onur air. If you get this from an employee, you know the airline is bad!!!
One of my moms friends works for Onur Air, and even she said that she will never fly on onur air. If you get this from an employee, you know the airline is bad!!!
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I flew with Onur twice, from Niederhein to Antalya and back. The flight to Antalya was uneventful, apart from the landing which made me think of the joke where the old lady asked the captain "did we land or were we shot down?"
The return flight was horrible, but nothing to do with technical issues (as far as I know). It started off with a 4 hour delay (all departures from Antalya were delayed), resulting in a divert to Cologne (Köln) because Niederhein closed before we could land there. From there it was a 2-hour busride back to Niederhein, and then from there some 2 1/2 hours to get home. The entire trip took longer than my trips from Amsterdam to Curacao!
Anyway, we flew with the A321 and I've heard Onur actually got commended by Airbus for their good condition.
The return flight was horrible, but nothing to do with technical issues (as far as I know). It started off with a 4 hour delay (all departures from Antalya were delayed), resulting in a divert to Cologne (Köln) because Niederhein closed before we could land there. From there it was a 2-hour busride back to Niederhein, and then from there some 2 1/2 hours to get home. The entire trip took longer than my trips from Amsterdam to Curacao!
Anyway, we flew with the A321 and I've heard Onur actually got commended by Airbus for their good condition.
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Onur Air is not as bad as the media puts them!
There a321 fleet is fairly well maintenanced with proper documentation and there scedule is on time as every other airline can say.
There big probleme is the a300 B4 - too old and worn out! But rumours say that it will be history by the year end and be replaced by an a300-600.
What happened to Onur in Holland etc was of course not totally fantisy but a hudge amount of politics were envolved comming from Örger.
Onur is a fast growing company and others want a piece of the cake.
I don´t want to say that everything is great but there are two sides.
There a321 fleet is fairly well maintenanced with proper documentation and there scedule is on time as every other airline can say.
There big probleme is the a300 B4 - too old and worn out! But rumours say that it will be history by the year end and be replaced by an a300-600.
What happened to Onur in Holland etc was of course not totally fantisy but a hudge amount of politics were envolved comming from Örger.
Onur is a fast growing company and others want a piece of the cake.
I don´t want to say that everything is great but there are two sides.
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Hey, RTO, do you know anything about the work that goes on in an A320 /A321 cockpit?
1. The aircraft is flown by autopilot / autothrust.
2. What were the weather conditions under which you flew? I would bet that it was not the best hence the autopilot/ autothrust would be constantly compensating for turbulence and gusts.
3. Before you run around labelling people "spastic monkeys" maybe you should first get a knowledge of what happens in the cockpit of and aircraft, and especially under difficult weather conditions.
Anyone can be a smart
, but not everyone can be a pilot bringing passengers safely from point A to B.
Before you decide to run your mouth again get the FACTS not just JUCY GOSSIP.
Guys like you make me 
Yes there are bad pilots in this business but don't just go wrongfully labelling people because the company they work for is in the news now. Also remember not everything you read or hear in the news is correct.
1. The aircraft is flown by autopilot / autothrust.
2. What were the weather conditions under which you flew? I would bet that it was not the best hence the autopilot/ autothrust would be constantly compensating for turbulence and gusts.
3. Before you run around labelling people "spastic monkeys" maybe you should first get a knowledge of what happens in the cockpit of and aircraft, and especially under difficult weather conditions.
Anyone can be a smart
, but not everyone can be a pilot bringing passengers safely from point A to B.Before you decide to run your mouth again get the FACTS not just JUCY GOSSIP.
Guys like you make me
Yes there are bad pilots in this business but don't just go wrongfully labelling people because the company they work for is in the news now. Also remember not everything you read or hear in the news is correct.
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Remember coming through security in BRU one day and coming face to face with the best looking CC's I had/have ever seen,beach-babes every last one of them and s u u uch short skirts(free seating would be a riot literally with row1 up for grabs).Of course we bloody asked,wouldn't you?and were a little surprised to hear it was Onur Air,which was a recent newcomer on the BRU apron.I'm told that other slightly dodgy looking bunch(Fly Air?) have some nice eye-candy in the MD80 galleys,hope Onur maintained the high standards in that Dept at least!
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Just on the news: Two Onur aircraft (didn't say what type) in trouble, one departed the runway during roll-out after landing in the rain at Istanbul, and the other got stranded in Izmir with engine problems... really, will they ever get a break?
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RTO,
I flew as a contract Capt for Istanbul Airlines from 3/93 to 10/94 and I disagree with you about Turkey being the RTO end of Aviation...
I was never questioned about my decisions regarding the safety of the aircraft, and I found the Turks wonderful people to work with and live amongst...
I flew as a contract Capt for Istanbul Airlines from 3/93 to 10/94 and I disagree with you about Turkey being the RTO end of Aviation...
I was never questioned about my decisions regarding the safety of the aircraft, and I found the Turks wonderful people to work with and live amongst...
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Pilot refuses to fly plane!
Onur Air pilot refuses to fly A321 to Bristol!
The experienced German captain came out of the flight deck and announced to the passengers that he refused to fly the plane on saftey grounds. This was said to cause a mini riot with Onur Air Manegment telling passengers it was safe to fly.
10% of passengers refused to fly and others only did as there was 'no other alternative to get home' This comes as Onur air is alredy banned fro flying to France, Germay and the Dutch authorities have alredy banned Onur Air so will the UK?
BAforever, you need to quote your sources on this one. Otherwise, this post will end up in Spotters forum along with your last flight-of-fancy contribution.
Thank you
Hawk
The experienced German captain came out of the flight deck and announced to the passengers that he refused to fly the plane on saftey grounds. This was said to cause a mini riot with Onur Air Manegment telling passengers it was safe to fly.
10% of passengers refused to fly and others only did as there was 'no other alternative to get home' This comes as Onur air is alredy banned fro flying to France, Germay and the Dutch authorities have alredy banned Onur Air so will the UK?
BAforever, you need to quote your sources on this one. Otherwise, this post will end up in Spotters forum along with your last flight-of-fancy contribution.
Thank you
Hawk
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A300
I fly the A300 B4 for an operator around europe, they are around 30 years old and other than having quite old nav equipment ,which works very well, in some of the aircraft they are very well looked after and I feel very safe in one. The maintenance is the key to any airlines operation both new and older aircraft.
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Onur Air - This Is Your Captain Speaking..the Plane Isn't Safe.. I Resign
Pilot announces to passenger not safe and i quit. See
Daily Record and The Scotsman for stories about this.
Daily Record and The Scotsman for stories about this.
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Rather old news
goldeneye
There has been a thread on this subject running for the last week on Rumours and News. See:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=244055
Scottie Dog
There has been a thread on this subject running for the last week on Rumours and News. See:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=244055
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Onur Air
Reading on another forum that Onur Airs international flights are to be taken over by freight carrier ACT Airlines when they have permission to commence pax flights. They will use Onur's current fleet of A320/321 aircraft with OHY retaining the MD's to continue domestic services. No mention of the A300 fleet. Apparantly it is to get rid of the negative image that has surrounded OHY in the past few years.
Anyone know anymore on this?
Will ACT take over the many charter flights to the UK that Onur operate? NCL alone has 8 flights per week this summer, many of which use the widebody A300?!
Anyone know anymore on this?
Will ACT take over the many charter flights to the UK that Onur operate? NCL alone has 8 flights per week this summer, many of which use the widebody A300?!
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Dear All,
I am a foreigner flying on the A320 family for Onurair. I've noticed they aquired an ISO, an TÜV and several Airbus awards regarding maintenance and operation. Also they've won at court from the Dutch CAA regarding the SAFA inspections.
All of the captains have 1000-ends of hours on type, the only problem might be the English standard, which has been 'upgraded' as we speak. Also the amount of foreigners (JAA licensensed CM1 & 2) contributes to the European standard required.
No unsafe flights on the 320 fleet!
I am a foreigner flying on the A320 family for Onurair. I've noticed they aquired an ISO, an TÜV and several Airbus awards regarding maintenance and operation. Also they've won at court from the Dutch CAA regarding the SAFA inspections.
All of the captains have 1000-ends of hours on type, the only problem might be the English standard, which has been 'upgraded' as we speak. Also the amount of foreigners (JAA licensensed CM1 & 2) contributes to the European standard required.
No unsafe flights on the 320 fleet!