Swefly Cancel all flights to Lahore
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Swefly Cancel all flights to Lahore
This is taken from the LBIA web-site, By the looks of things it affects all operations from Leeds/Bradford, Luton and its home base of Stockholm Skavasta http://www.lbia.co.uk/newsstory.php?storyid=20050902
Swefly Press Release
2 September 2005
The Swefly Company Group has decided to cancel all flights concerning Lahore from 6.00pm Friday 2nd September until further notice due to present circumstances.
Swefly advise all passengers to contact their travel agencies and / or insurance companies with any ticket issues.
Also
Tonights departure boards for Stockholm skavasta are showing tonights Flight VW921 to Lahore at 21:00 Local CEST Cancelled.
See Below link for Skavasta Airport
http://www.skavsta.se/pages_eng/index.htm
Nothing on www.swefly.com as yet
Swefly Press Release
2 September 2005
The Swefly Company Group has decided to cancel all flights concerning Lahore from 6.00pm Friday 2nd September until further notice due to present circumstances.
Swefly advise all passengers to contact their travel agencies and / or insurance companies with any ticket issues.
Also
Tonights departure boards for Stockholm skavasta are showing tonights Flight VW921 to Lahore at 21:00 Local CEST Cancelled.
See Below link for Skavasta Airport
http://www.skavsta.se/pages_eng/index.htm
Nothing on www.swefly.com as yet
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Please excuse my ignorance here, but what do they mean by "present circumstances"?
Pakistan has just had historic talks with Israel, and the peace process with India has been described as "irreversible" (as in going forward, not back, to use Tonyspeak!).
Now Pakistan might be no bed of roses, but this does not suggest to me that the political situation is justification to suspend flights.
I understood that these flights were initially solidly booked for 3 months, hardly suprising considering that they were the first long haul scheduled flights from Leeds for quite a while.
So can anyone shed any light on the real reasons for this suspension? AFAIK, Swe Fly have been around for a while, so I assume the problem is just with this route rather than the airline as a whole? Was the connection via NYO just too much hassle?
I'm sure pax would prefer a direct flight, which would make obvious economic sense as the market for UK to Pakistan must be 10x that of Sweden to Pakistan, but if the bilaterals don't permit that, what else was stopping SweFly making a profit on this route?
Pakistan has just had historic talks with Israel, and the peace process with India has been described as "irreversible" (as in going forward, not back, to use Tonyspeak!).
Now Pakistan might be no bed of roses, but this does not suggest to me that the political situation is justification to suspend flights.
I understood that these flights were initially solidly booked for 3 months, hardly suprising considering that they were the first long haul scheduled flights from Leeds for quite a while.
So can anyone shed any light on the real reasons for this suspension? AFAIK, Swe Fly have been around for a while, so I assume the problem is just with this route rather than the airline as a whole? Was the connection via NYO just too much hassle?
I'm sure pax would prefer a direct flight, which would make obvious economic sense as the market for UK to Pakistan must be 10x that of Sweden to Pakistan, but if the bilaterals don't permit that, what else was stopping SweFly making a profit on this route?
I spoke to the aviance Station manager and he was not a happy chap but he would'nt elaborate any further.
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Here is a surprise...In todays Pakikstani newspaper there is a press release from SWEFLY's country manager in pakistan,Naweed Sadiqui. Who is suggesting that SWEFLY is planning to increase its network furter in Pakistan by adding Karachi and Islambad as their new destinations.In addition they will are looking into an option to start a domestic network IN PAKISTAN.
He said these things in a signing ceremony to Appoint Pollani travel group as their agents for KARACHI sector!!!!
here is the link in URDU
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2005-dail...s/tijarti1.htm
other thing that this piece mentions is that the names of people who were present from Pollani and Aeroasia Groups...
Whats Going on????
He said these things in a signing ceremony to Appoint Pollani travel group as their agents for KARACHI sector!!!!
here is the link in URDU
http://jang.com.pk/jang/sep2005-dail...s/tijarti1.htm
other thing that this piece mentions is that the names of people who were present from Pollani and Aeroasia Groups...
Whats Going on????
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Could this have something to do swefly's cancellations. PIA are having to ground some flights with-in pakistan. Lahore seems to be mentioned in all flight routings.
this is taken from http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/index.html
KARACHI: The Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) on Friday announced that it had suspended five Fokker flights for the period between September 4 and 12. According to a PIA announcement, the flights would remain cancelled during PAF High Mark Exercises between September 4 and 12, restricting the airspace on certain routes and levels. The flights affected by the suspension are PK 609-610 Peshawar-Lahore-Islamabad-Peshawar from September 4-11, PK 601-602 Islamabad-Lahore-Islamabad on September 5, 7 and 12, PK 681-688 Islamabad-Lahore-Islamabad on September 5, 8, 10 and 12, PK 615-616 Islamabad-Dera Ghazi Khan-Lahore-Islamabad on Sept 6 and 10 and PK 613-614 Islamabad-Bahawalpur-Lahore on Sept 8.
this is taken from http://www.jang.com.pk/thenews/index.html
KARACHI: The Pakistan International Airlines (PIA) on Friday announced that it had suspended five Fokker flights for the period between September 4 and 12. According to a PIA announcement, the flights would remain cancelled during PAF High Mark Exercises between September 4 and 12, restricting the airspace on certain routes and levels. The flights affected by the suspension are PK 609-610 Peshawar-Lahore-Islamabad-Peshawar from September 4-11, PK 601-602 Islamabad-Lahore-Islamabad on September 5, 7 and 12, PK 681-688 Islamabad-Lahore-Islamabad on September 5, 8, 10 and 12, PK 615-616 Islamabad-Dera Ghazi Khan-Lahore-Islamabad on Sept 6 and 10 and PK 613-614 Islamabad-Bahawalpur-Lahore on Sept 8.
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No, PIA matter is different. They are only cancelling the flights operated by FOKKER planes. this is due to the airforce training and them using the same ceiling as the fokkers so as result from a safety view point they have cancelled these flights. Flights using Jets are unaffected.
I have just spoken to a travel agent who has booked a seat for my friend, and he is saying that they are expecting anupdate on monday from the airline.He has hundreds of passengers stranded in lahore now, including 25 family members.
Does anyone know what will happen to those paxs if they have to buy another ticket to come back.Are they protected somehow by EU and UK laws???
I have just spoken to a travel agent who has booked a seat for my friend, and he is saying that they are expecting anupdate on monday from the airline.He has hundreds of passengers stranded in lahore now, including 25 family members.
Does anyone know what will happen to those paxs if they have to buy another ticket to come back.Are they protected somehow by EU and UK laws???
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http://www.swetravel.co.uk/default.aspx Atol protected according to this site
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Has anyone heard anything new about this topic???I have just rang my travel agaent and he was saying that swefly is going to update travel agents after 1600hrs...
I was wondering if anyone knows whats going on and why the flights are cancelled???
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I was wondering if anyone knows whats going on and why the flights are cancelled???
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hi
heres the latest press release from swefly.com
SWE FLY STOPS FLIGHTS
- The owners of SWE FLY have not been able to finance the operations and the company has been forced to cancel all flights as from last Friday afternoon.
- Presently the owners are in intensive work in order to find a solution to SWE FLY?s problems. The staff of SWE FLY is ready to start operations at short notice.
- To those passengers that now are waiting for a SWE FLY scheduled flight we must regretfully admit that we still do not know when or if flights will resume.
- We encourage all customers to follow the notices on this page. Our switchboard is overloaded and we ask all, but booked passengers, not to phone. Booked passengers can contact us at +46 771 48 85 00.
SWE FLY management
heres the latest press release from swefly.com
SWE FLY STOPS FLIGHTS
- The owners of SWE FLY have not been able to finance the operations and the company has been forced to cancel all flights as from last Friday afternoon.
- Presently the owners are in intensive work in order to find a solution to SWE FLY?s problems. The staff of SWE FLY is ready to start operations at short notice.
- To those passengers that now are waiting for a SWE FLY scheduled flight we must regretfully admit that we still do not know when or if flights will resume.
- We encourage all customers to follow the notices on this page. Our switchboard is overloaded and we ask all, but booked passengers, not to phone. Booked passengers can contact us at +46 771 48 85 00.
SWE FLY management
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Thanks LBIA!!!just a question as the statement is not very clear....are the passengers still covered by ATOL and can they book their returns with other airlines???suppose if they book return flights and swe starts again then what happens to those expences???
all the answers will be appreciated ....
all the answers will be appreciated ....
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Correct me if I am wrong but scheduled services are not coved by ATOL protection only bookings via tour operators are covered. Swefly has two websites which are http://www.swefly.com and http://www.swetravel.co.uk/default.aspx looks to me that swetravel bookings were classed as air holidays so it might all depend how the booking was taken. Have a look at http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?categoryid=27 which is the ATOL website.
The atol number quoted belongs to Moresands Ltd trading as
Crystal Travel
Great Vacations
Moresand Holidays
Philippine Holidays
Swe Travel
Moresands details are
9 Rathbone Place
London
W1T 1HW
Telephone: 020 7612 0500
The atol number quoted belongs to Moresands Ltd trading as
Crystal Travel
Great Vacations
Moresand Holidays
Philippine Holidays
Swe Travel
Moresands details are
9 Rathbone Place
London
W1T 1HW
Telephone: 020 7612 0500
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ATOL protection would not apply if you booked direct with the airline, only Swe Travel. However, if you paid Swe Fly direct with a credit card (NOT a debit card) and the amount paid was 100 pounds or more you can claim direct from the credit card company.
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The booking i made was through a high street travel agent who inturn bought the ticket from SWE TRAVEL.
and the website of my travel agent says that they act on the behalf of ATOL holders.In this case SWETRAVEL...
GLAcabincrew and King Pong thanks for your replies...
and the website of my travel agent says that they act on the behalf of ATOL holders.In this case SWETRAVEL...
GLAcabincrew and King Pong thanks for your replies...
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thanks GLAcabincrew...
I was trying ti ring them yesterday but the number was busy and they have not replied to my email.
I have spoken to my travel agent and he was saying that some decision is expected today from Swefly and there are rumour that they will start Lahore operations again if not anyother. there was also suggestion that they are going to bring the passengers back from lahor,atleast. However he was not sure and will let me know by the end of today.
I shall update you guys once i hear from him....
I was trying ti ring them yesterday but the number was busy and they have not replied to my email.
I have spoken to my travel agent and he was saying that some decision is expected today from Swefly and there are rumour that they will start Lahore operations again if not anyother. there was also suggestion that they are going to bring the passengers back from lahor,atleast. However he was not sure and will let me know by the end of today.
I shall update you guys once i hear from him....
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Pax confidence
What I meant to get across was.... If Swe Fly can pull a rabbit out of the hat and get going again, what would be the effect on passenger confidence on booking with them again, considering that they are aiming their flights at a specific close-knit enthic market who are certain to know somebody who lost money, cancelled booking, stuck in LHE..........