Eujet cease operations/Manston(Merged)
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Rumour has it that Manston is closed until Aug 3rd, due licence and insurance problems and not the 0700-1700 opening daily on the NOTAM.
Trading Standards confirmed today on the BBC, that you will get a FULL refund if you used a Credit card and the bill was over £100 for the air fare purchase.
Trading Standards confirmed today on the BBC, that you will get a FULL refund if you used a Credit card and the bill was over £100 for the air fare purchase.
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Ladyman is singled out in the "Just for £1" campaign as he was against it two weeks ago. Presumably he would have been aware of the rocky situation at MSE, or perhaps not?
I'm not convinced about the arguments for this one yet, sounds like yet another charge for muggins passenger, this time to prop up financially inept airlines, but a one way Ryanair flight (without taxes and charges of course) says he'll do a u-turn by the end of August.
Buster, I'm still miffed on what's going to happen for the passengers who paid by debit card, or who paid less than £100. I understand average return fare was just £48. At sub 50% occupancy, it still seems amazing that the airline lasted so long.
I'm not convinced about the arguments for this one yet, sounds like yet another charge for muggins passenger, this time to prop up financially inept airlines, but a one way Ryanair flight (without taxes and charges of course) says he'll do a u-turn by the end of August.
Buster, I'm still miffed on what's going to happen for the passengers who paid by debit card, or who paid less than £100. I understand average return fare was just £48. At sub 50% occupancy, it still seems amazing that the airline lasted so long.
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Just as a final word on EUJet.
In my simplistic understanding of the business ACMI is money for old rope. EUJet spent the majority of 2003 and 2004 flying some lucrative ACMI contracts throughout Europe. They should have started at MSE with pockets full of money. The whole of last summer saw EUJet struggling to run the very simple scehdule imposed by their contractors. V Bird was a straightforward schedule. The contract for the Milan operation was so poorly written that Milan and Naples were considered to be the same base! The contracts with Air France, Air Luxor and German Wings could have been extended. Indeed I think it would be fair to say that EUJet were partially responsible for driving Volare and V Bird out of business with their appaling record. With a history like this, it does beg the question, why did Planestation invest in them. Due diligence is surely a prerequisite of any business venture. Mr McGoldrick's dubious history, as detailed in the Telegraph, and the airline's inability to operate throughout the previous summer should have given Planestation food for thought before they invested their shareholder's money in such a dodgy enterprise.
In my simplistic understanding of the business ACMI is money for old rope. EUJet spent the majority of 2003 and 2004 flying some lucrative ACMI contracts throughout Europe. They should have started at MSE with pockets full of money. The whole of last summer saw EUJet struggling to run the very simple scehdule imposed by their contractors. V Bird was a straightforward schedule. The contract for the Milan operation was so poorly written that Milan and Naples were considered to be the same base! The contracts with Air France, Air Luxor and German Wings could have been extended. Indeed I think it would be fair to say that EUJet were partially responsible for driving Volare and V Bird out of business with their appaling record. With a history like this, it does beg the question, why did Planestation invest in them. Due diligence is surely a prerequisite of any business venture. Mr McGoldrick's dubious history, as detailed in the Telegraph, and the airline's inability to operate throughout the previous summer should have given Planestation food for thought before they invested their shareholder's money in such a dodgy enterprise.
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deep down i think the majority of staff at mse knew that it wouldnt last. wrong routes, wrong aircraft, un-reliable aircraft, poor management and an amazing rate of spending money. there was direct orders not to market the cargo operation yet the marketing of the pax operation abroad was none existant. we get the feeling that the whole thing was deliberately run into the ground. so much for MM's reputation in the city now,unless those in the know were fully behind the 'planned' demise of planestation. the only ones that come out on top are the mcgoldricks. and as for pj saying he plans to re invent the airline flying from snn to the sun, who in hell is going to lend this tripple failure money?
a sad end to a lot of dedicated hard working staff,many of whom will not even get paid, shame pj wont put his hand in his own pocket, but hopefully someone will get it rolling again, there is huge potential here, dispite what a lot of gloom mungers say.
good luck mse
a sad end to a lot of dedicated hard working staff,many of whom will not even get paid, shame pj wont put his hand in his own pocket, but hopefully someone will get it rolling again, there is huge potential here, dispite what a lot of gloom mungers say.
good luck mse
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"A message forum has been created for ex planestation employees, here you can keep in touch, share recruitment information etc."
adm1n - What do you know that we don't !!.....as far I as know, no KIA staff have been told their services are no longer required at KIA Manston......so are we "ex" employees then ?
I understood that we were having to wait till the administrators did their work, then the results would be told to us before being released to the outside world.
adm1n - What do you know that we don't !!.....as far I as know, no KIA staff have been told their services are no longer required at KIA Manston......so are we "ex" employees then ?
I understood that we were having to wait till the administrators did their work, then the results would be told to us before being released to the outside world.
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It says Planestation employees, as in Eujet, Planestation and KIA.
It was mainly created now for the people departing from Eujet to stay in touch with work colleagues from the rest of the company, who ARE still employed.
It was mainly created now for the people departing from Eujet to stay in touch with work colleagues from the rest of the company, who ARE still employed.
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'ex employees' is of course those eujet people who have been told that they lost their jobs last week. as for the rest of us, we will be told tommorrow that all is lost,except for a few senior positions required to keep the place 'ticking over'. what about the rumour that bmi have bought the old place already?
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correct.the atz is closed until the 8th when no doubt another notam will be posted.
heard a rumour that someone will sign on the dotted line next week, however no one seems to know any facts.
isnt it amazing how quiet this forum has become since everybody is now unable to use the companies computers!
come on, get them rumours working...............
heard a rumour that someone will sign on the dotted line next week, however no one seems to know any facts.
isnt it amazing how quiet this forum has become since everybody is now unable to use the companies computers!
come on, get them rumours working...............
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Wind World, Land of Snow or how about Freezing Rain Wonderland.
The most likely outcome will have either houses or cabbage in its future.
I dont know how the Fire School will impact the outcome as they usually fill the sky with smoke every once and a while.
I would imagine the RAF may have some say in its future development and there may have been some provisions in its sale to Wiggins.
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I have just checked my inbox to find....
Dear All,
Below is an update on the current situation which has been issued by our Finance Director. As we do not have e-mail contact details for all staff I would greatly if you could pass this information on.
Regards,
Human Resources
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An Update on current position for employees.
The last number of weeks have been very difficult for all of us and we thank you for your patience during this time. I have outlined below how your claim for arrears of wages, holiday etc will be processed. We have dealt with this on a Question and Answer basis
Q: When we I receive my P45
Irish Employees
We expect to be issuing P45’s to you on Friday this week. The P45 will record your payment of salary to 30th June 2005. We will also enclose a letter explaining the circumstances for you to hand, if required, to your local social security office.
UK employees
We expect to be issuing P45’s to you during next week. The P45 will record your payment of salary to 30th June 2005. We will also enclose a letter explaining the circumstances for you to hand, if required, to your local social security office
Q: How much will I be paid?
We are calculating your claim for unpaid wages, holiday pay, notice pay and other expenses where we have the information. For the avoidance of doubt your employment was terminated on 26th July 2005 but your wages will be calculated to 31st July. When this is done (we expect to be able to issue the calculation next week) we plan to email or write to you so that you can check the claim. If you dispute any item then we will need written evidence to support your dispute and you should email [email protected] or write to HR, EUjet in Examinership, debis Airfinance House, Shannon Industrial Estate, Shannon, Co. Clare, Ireland.
Q: When will I be paid and will I get it all paid?
Your claim for unpaid wages, subject to certain limits and unpaid holiday pay will be a preferential claim in the insolvency. As the process of securing an Investor for the Company and the formulation by the Examiner of a scheme of arrangement to deal with historic debts of the Company is on-going, as well as the need for approval by the Irish High Court of the scheme of arrangement the actual amount and the date of payment to you cannot yet be determined. We are however trying to do this as soon as possible but it will be at least a month.
Q: what can I do about the amounts that I may not be paid?
As Eujet is insolvent, you may be able to make a claim under the Employment Protection legislation in each Country. Relevant information on how to make a claim can be found:
For Irish residents: http://www.entemp.ie/employment/insolvency/index.htm
For UK residents: http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/redunda...whatcanido.htm
or
http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/pdfs/gu...remployees.pdf
Q: What about a reference?
References: HR will be issuing to you a standard employer reference to your home address. To avoid any confusion please re-confirm your home address so that we ensure the records are up to date.
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The most likely outcome will have either houses or cabbage in its future.
I dont know how the Fire School will impact the outcome as they usually fill the sky with smoke every once and a while.
I would imagine the RAF may have some say in its future development and there may have been some provisions in its sale to Wiggins.
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I have just checked my inbox to find....
Dear All,
Below is an update on the current situation which has been issued by our Finance Director. As we do not have e-mail contact details for all staff I would greatly if you could pass this information on.
Regards,
Human Resources
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An Update on current position for employees.
The last number of weeks have been very difficult for all of us and we thank you for your patience during this time. I have outlined below how your claim for arrears of wages, holiday etc will be processed. We have dealt with this on a Question and Answer basis
Q: When we I receive my P45
Irish Employees
We expect to be issuing P45’s to you on Friday this week. The P45 will record your payment of salary to 30th June 2005. We will also enclose a letter explaining the circumstances for you to hand, if required, to your local social security office.
UK employees
We expect to be issuing P45’s to you during next week. The P45 will record your payment of salary to 30th June 2005. We will also enclose a letter explaining the circumstances for you to hand, if required, to your local social security office
Q: How much will I be paid?
We are calculating your claim for unpaid wages, holiday pay, notice pay and other expenses where we have the information. For the avoidance of doubt your employment was terminated on 26th July 2005 but your wages will be calculated to 31st July. When this is done (we expect to be able to issue the calculation next week) we plan to email or write to you so that you can check the claim. If you dispute any item then we will need written evidence to support your dispute and you should email [email protected] or write to HR, EUjet in Examinership, debis Airfinance House, Shannon Industrial Estate, Shannon, Co. Clare, Ireland.
Q: When will I be paid and will I get it all paid?
Your claim for unpaid wages, subject to certain limits and unpaid holiday pay will be a preferential claim in the insolvency. As the process of securing an Investor for the Company and the formulation by the Examiner of a scheme of arrangement to deal with historic debts of the Company is on-going, as well as the need for approval by the Irish High Court of the scheme of arrangement the actual amount and the date of payment to you cannot yet be determined. We are however trying to do this as soon as possible but it will be at least a month.
Q: what can I do about the amounts that I may not be paid?
As Eujet is insolvent, you may be able to make a claim under the Employment Protection legislation in each Country. Relevant information on how to make a claim can be found:
For Irish residents: http://www.entemp.ie/employment/insolvency/index.htm
For UK residents: http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/redunda...whatcanido.htm
or
http://www.insolvency.gov.uk/pdfs/gu...remployees.pdf
Q: What about a reference?
References: HR will be issuing to you a standard employer reference to your home address. To avoid any confusion please re-confirm your home address so that we ensure the records are up to date.
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Apologies if this has been posted before;
www.eujet.com is showing a page explaining what to do if you have booked or travelled with the airline, and how to get your money back (!) or return to UK.
The header for the page reads: Eujet, the hassle free alternative
www.eujet.com is showing a page explaining what to do if you have booked or travelled with the airline, and how to get your money back (!) or return to UK.
The header for the page reads: Eujet, the hassle free alternative
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EUJET, THE PASENGER FREE ALTERNATIVE
but there again it always was.
as for the mail from the HR dept. we were told that the HR dept was dissmissed at manston because the administraters had their own, and nobody liked her anyway.
my advice would be to fill out the form given by the administraters and dont hold your breath.
if they turn it into a theme park they could always bring back FZ and turn it into a cafe(plenty of wild life around for fresh meat), and if they had one of those roundabouts with little red planes on it, would it work?, or would anyone want to ride on it? we could have a 'spot the concrete with no weeds'competition or
spot the working taxiway light.
youve got to laugh..............
but there again it always was.
as for the mail from the HR dept. we were told that the HR dept was dissmissed at manston because the administraters had their own, and nobody liked her anyway.
my advice would be to fill out the form given by the administraters and dont hold your breath.
if they turn it into a theme park they could always bring back FZ and turn it into a cafe(plenty of wild life around for fresh meat), and if they had one of those roundabouts with little red planes on it, would it work?, or would anyone want to ride on it? we could have a 'spot the concrete with no weeds'competition or
spot the working taxiway light.
youve got to laugh..............
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I've heard that the administrators have kept a number of staff on (ATCOs', Engineers, AFS and Ops) but they are only to be paid until the end of August.
Alledgedly thaye have been approached by 3 potential buyers, 2 of whom are credible, but they are not 1)BAA 2)TBI or 3)Peel Holdings.
One wonders if a bunch of Mc Venture Capitalists with interests in the Broads and a certain Dutch city with strong EEC connections may be involved.
Last but not least, it is alleged that their are certain issues regarding public liability insurance, and that the UK Insurance industry requires a bond to cover past and future payments, ther is allegedly no money for this, which is why, allegedly, the airfield remains closed, (allegedly).
Alledgedly thaye have been approached by 3 potential buyers, 2 of whom are credible, but they are not 1)BAA 2)TBI or 3)Peel Holdings.
One wonders if a bunch of Mc Venture Capitalists with interests in the Broads and a certain Dutch city with strong EEC connections may be involved.
Last but not least, it is alleged that their are certain issues regarding public liability insurance, and that the UK Insurance industry requires a bond to cover past and future payments, ther is allegedly no money for this, which is why, allegedly, the airfield remains closed, (allegedly).