Eujet cease operations/Manston(Merged)
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My sympathies to all ... I was with Maersk/Duo at the end, so know what this feels like.
For what its worth, in a relatively short space of time, everyone who wanted a job got one ...
We has an excellent Flt Ops man at the time, who called all the airlines the day after the collapse, and many of them came to talk to us as a group ... holding recruitment days at our old HQ and a couple of airlines did roadshows for us etc ...
This kind of thing might be worth trying to organise.
Good luck
For what its worth, in a relatively short space of time, everyone who wanted a job got one ...
We has an excellent Flt Ops man at the time, who called all the airlines the day after the collapse, and many of them came to talk to us as a group ... holding recruitment days at our old HQ and a couple of airlines did roadshows for us etc ...
This kind of thing might be worth trying to organise.
Good luck
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Very sorry to hear about the end of EUJet.
I hope the flightdeck and all other staff involved will find alternate work very soon without too much trouble. All the best.
I hope the flightdeck and all other staff involved will find alternate work very soon without too much trouble. All the best.
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Why is it that PJ McGoldricks name is so often associated with small airlines that go out of business. He was invloved in the HeavyLift Cargo Airlines going down & TranAer. Is he someone who gets called in to assist in an attempt to try and recover, or just someone who comes in to help clean up? Either way I have seen 3 or 4 final 'Sorry Chaps' statements from PJ to ground staff and air crew, and had the misfortune to have been working for a couple at the time.
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My sincere condolences to all at KIA and EU Jet for the news.
I recently went for a job in ATC at KIA and was awaiting a reply when I heard the news, so to some extent this has affected me directly.
The ATC staff were very pleasant and helpful when I was there, and I wish them the very best for the future.
A sad day for UK Aviation and UK AIrports.
I recently went for a job in ATC at KIA and was awaiting a reply when I heard the news, so to some extent this has affected me directly.
The ATC staff were very pleasant and helpful when I was there, and I wish them the very best for the future.
A sad day for UK Aviation and UK AIrports.
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So P.J. strikes again.
Another cunning plan to do things cheaply?
Oh no not another airline gone bust?
Ah well least I got the customers money.
Maybe someone in authority might now take a look at the back ground of people trying to run airlines before issuing licences.
Another cunning plan to do things cheaply?
Oh no not another airline gone bust?
Ah well least I got the customers money.
Maybe someone in authority might now take a look at the back ground of people trying to run airlines before issuing licences.
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WHAY ARE YOU ALL SURPRISED?
I am amazed.
On a forum with so many people that could do a better job than the people who are actually trying to start airlines and run airlines, how is it that anyone in the aviation business is even slightly surprised by this.
It was a dead cert that Ejet could not work, just like DUO couldnt work.
One was never going to sell enough tickets from nowhere and the other would never sell ducks (DUO advertising).
I too am sorry that people will be thrown into unemployment. It is always sad, but I am sorry to say I posted on this back in about March or April. Told you so.
On a forum with so many people that could do a better job than the people who are actually trying to start airlines and run airlines, how is it that anyone in the aviation business is even slightly surprised by this.
It was a dead cert that Ejet could not work, just like DUO couldnt work.
One was never going to sell enough tickets from nowhere and the other would never sell ducks (DUO advertising).
I too am sorry that people will be thrown into unemployment. It is always sad, but I am sorry to say I posted on this back in about March or April. Told you so.
Buzz off with BAF!!
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I agree with Niceguy.
This was like watching a slow motion tram smash. Everyone knew it was inevitable from the beginning.
Unfortunately Manston does not have a catchment area that is sufficient to support a high frequency schedule service operation. In fact where is Manston's catchment area?
In the 60's and 70's when Invicta was in business it's limited success was based on IT charter flights where passengers were mainly coached to Manston. Those days are gone.
I wish Manston and it's staff a secure future, but I don't think it will come in the guise of a low-cost scheduled operator.
This was like watching a slow motion tram smash. Everyone knew it was inevitable from the beginning.
Unfortunately Manston does not have a catchment area that is sufficient to support a high frequency schedule service operation. In fact where is Manston's catchment area?
In the 60's and 70's when Invicta was in business it's limited success was based on IT charter flights where passengers were mainly coached to Manston. Those days are gone.
I wish Manston and it's staff a secure future, but I don't think it will come in the guise of a low-cost scheduled operator.
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Interesting article in todays Telegraph about PJ, although most of the content already known.................
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...711086,00.html
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...711086,00.html
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"Unfortunately Manston does not have a catchment area that is sufficient to support a high frequency schedule service operation.
In fact where is Manston's catchment area? Er, KENT, E SUSSEX AND S.E. LONDON. REMEMBER THE DICTUM - THERE IS NO CATCHMENT AREA FOR LOCO AIRLINES.
In the 60's [60s] and 70's [70s], when Invicta was in business it's [ITS] limited success was based on IT charter flights where passengers were mainly coached to Manston. Those days are gone. THE WHOLE AIRLINE BUSINESS HAS CHANGED. NEVERTHELESS, IN JULY 9,000 CHARTER PASSENGERS WERE COACHED FROM AND TO MANSTON.
I wish Manston and it's [ITS] staff a secure future, but I don't think it will come in the guise of a low-cost scheduled operator"
EUJ HAD SOME CRAZY ROUTES, BUT THERE WERE BANKERS. THEY STARTED TO GO UNDER BY REDUCING AMS AND MAN TO ONCE A DAY, DESTROYING A GROWING BUSINESS MARKET. THE PLANES WERE TOO BIG FOR MOST OF THE BUSINESS SERVICES, AND THEY RAN TOO MANY SUN SERVICES ON TOO MANY ROUTES.
BUT THE MAIN FACTOR IN EUJ'S DEMISE WAS YEARS OF FINANCIAL MISMANAGEMENT BY PLANESTATION - THE DEBT MOUNTAIN WAS TOO GREAT.
THE DEBT HAS NOW GONE. AN AIRPORT WITH GOOD FACILITIES IS AVAILABLE IN KENT, ONLY AN HOUR'S DRIVE FROM THAMES GATEWAY - WATCH THIS SPACE.
In fact where is Manston's catchment area? Er, KENT, E SUSSEX AND S.E. LONDON. REMEMBER THE DICTUM - THERE IS NO CATCHMENT AREA FOR LOCO AIRLINES.
In the 60's [60s] and 70's [70s], when Invicta was in business it's [ITS] limited success was based on IT charter flights where passengers were mainly coached to Manston. Those days are gone. THE WHOLE AIRLINE BUSINESS HAS CHANGED. NEVERTHELESS, IN JULY 9,000 CHARTER PASSENGERS WERE COACHED FROM AND TO MANSTON.
I wish Manston and it's [ITS] staff a secure future, but I don't think it will come in the guise of a low-cost scheduled operator"
EUJ HAD SOME CRAZY ROUTES, BUT THERE WERE BANKERS. THEY STARTED TO GO UNDER BY REDUCING AMS AND MAN TO ONCE A DAY, DESTROYING A GROWING BUSINESS MARKET. THE PLANES WERE TOO BIG FOR MOST OF THE BUSINESS SERVICES, AND THEY RAN TOO MANY SUN SERVICES ON TOO MANY ROUTES.
BUT THE MAIN FACTOR IN EUJ'S DEMISE WAS YEARS OF FINANCIAL MISMANAGEMENT BY PLANESTATION - THE DEBT MOUNTAIN WAS TOO GREAT.
THE DEBT HAS NOW GONE. AN AIRPORT WITH GOOD FACILITIES IS AVAILABLE IN KENT, ONLY AN HOUR'S DRIVE FROM THAMES GATEWAY - WATCH THIS SPACE.
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I worked for EUjet and take exception with some of the comments expressed, like the comment about passengers loosing their money which they paid for future flights. We are all aware that EUjet only used passengers money after they had flown passengers therefore can get there money back.
I enjoyed my time working with some of the best people I had the privilege of working with.
Yes it was a long shot operating out of an airport that didn’t have an existing business but if there was no people in the world prepared to take a chance there would be very few jobs.
Yes EUjet didn’t develop fast enough but don’t for get it was the first year, fuel prices increased by 300% and the cargo business at the airport disappeared. Is it any wonder that PlaneStation had difficulties?
It was the failure of PlaneStation which brought EUjet down and this failure has been blamed on the PlaneStation’s Bank who wouldn’t support the company while property was been sold.
EUjet was controlled by PlaneStation as was the Airport; EUjet was run by Martin May and all the senior people reported to him. When the staff met management it was Martin they met not PJ McGoldrick who announced earlier in the year that he was resigning from the Board and reducing the time he would work for the company.
He became more involved towards the end (a good indication that things weren’t going great) and when the company stopped operating it was Stuart McGoldrick who talked to our people in Kent and I believe PJ did the same in Shannon.
There was no sign of the PlaneStation people
I enjoyed my time working with some of the best people I had the privilege of working with.
Yes it was a long shot operating out of an airport that didn’t have an existing business but if there was no people in the world prepared to take a chance there would be very few jobs.
Yes EUjet didn’t develop fast enough but don’t for get it was the first year, fuel prices increased by 300% and the cargo business at the airport disappeared. Is it any wonder that PlaneStation had difficulties?
It was the failure of PlaneStation which brought EUjet down and this failure has been blamed on the PlaneStation’s Bank who wouldn’t support the company while property was been sold.
EUjet was controlled by PlaneStation as was the Airport; EUjet was run by Martin May and all the senior people reported to him. When the staff met management it was Martin they met not PJ McGoldrick who announced earlier in the year that he was resigning from the Board and reducing the time he would work for the company.
He became more involved towards the end (a good indication that things weren’t going great) and when the company stopped operating it was Stuart McGoldrick who talked to our people in Kent and I believe PJ did the same in Shannon.
There was no sign of the PlaneStation people
Yes EUjet didn’t develop fast enough but don’t for get it was the first year, fuel prices increased by 300% and the cargo business at the airport disappeared.
It was the failure of PlaneStation which brought EUjet down and this failure has been blamed on the PlaneStation’s Bank who wouldn’t support the company while property was been sold.
But even then, in the early 70s when Invicta acquired Vanguards and later still 707/720s, they based them at Luton for most of the charters. Presumably because that's where people wanted to fly from.
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If Manston has as much potential as Jes obviously thinks,then why haven't Easy or Ryanair staked a claim long ago?
Neither airline is slow when it spies an opportunity.
It comes back to what so many people have stated already
on this thread. Manston does not have a catchment area
that would sustain such an operation.
It is the 'bottom line' that counts these days, the banks and the accountants are king.
Neither airline is slow when it spies an opportunity.
It comes back to what so many people have stated already
on this thread. Manston does not have a catchment area
that would sustain such an operation.
It is the 'bottom line' that counts these days, the banks and the accountants are king.