UK Airports under 1 Million pax p/a
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UK Airports under 1 Million pax p/a
Just having a look at the latest figures from CAA and the increases of passengers at the UK's "secondary" regional airports. Out of the following: BOH, EXT, MME, NWI, HUY, DSA and INV which do you think will reach the 1 million mark first? And in what order do you think they will be in terms of pax at end of financial year 2005/6
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No disrespect to the other airports but DSA will be streets ahead in the next year or two. It's got everything going for it and serves the 4th largest city in England. It will be up there with the likes of Nottingham, Newcastle and Liverpool.
My own airport Humberside, will fair a little better than holidaymax's predictions, I hope.
My own airport Humberside, will fair a little better than holidaymax's predictions, I hope.
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Why was CVT left out of this?
Provisional Section 106 limiting pax to 0.98 mil per year until a new agreement is made for the permanent terminal?
CVT is not without its problems, but still has plenty more room for growth yet - and as for catchment areas, there is probably more population within 120 mins than almost all of the cities above combined - would probably have to leave DSA out of it, I wouldn't want to provoke its supporters, especially as there are so many of them.
Provisional Section 106 limiting pax to 0.98 mil per year until a new agreement is made for the permanent terminal?
CVT is not without its problems, but still has plenty more room for growth yet - and as for catchment areas, there is probably more population within 120 mins than almost all of the cities above combined - would probably have to leave DSA out of it, I wouldn't want to provoke its supporters, especially as there are so many of them.
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Fourth biggest city?
This is something that can be disputed for days on end. The size of a city can be measured in many way.
Population
Number of people employed
Number of businesses
The area the city covers
The list is endless.
Manchester and Birmingham have been flighting for the second slot for years, likewise Leeds vs Manchester or Liverpool for the third slot. If the Metro areas aren't included then Leeds is bigger than Manchester.
Here goes anyway.....
London
Birmingham
Leeds
Sheffield
Manchester
Include the Metro areas.....
London
Birmingham
Manchester
Leeds
Sheffield
rant over, back to pprune
Population
Number of people employed
Number of businesses
The area the city covers
The list is endless.
Manchester and Birmingham have been flighting for the second slot for years, likewise Leeds vs Manchester or Liverpool for the third slot. If the Metro areas aren't included then Leeds is bigger than Manchester.
Here goes anyway.....
London
Birmingham
Leeds
Sheffield
Manchester
Include the Metro areas.....
London
Birmingham
Manchester
Leeds
Sheffield
rant over, back to pprune
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Is Sheffield REALLY England's 4th largest city? Bigger than Liverpool, Newcastle, Leeds, Leicester, Bristol?????
Considering Doncaster is South Yorkshire's second city/town or whatever it is, it just goes to show the potential of DSA.
Saying that, a lot of people think that Humberside airport is desolate but it's not the case. Hull has approx quarter of a million population, and you have Grimsby, Scunthorpe and a great many small towns.
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I wouldn't argue with the lists, with the exception of HUY, who will suffer from DSA's success, and if they get 1m plus passengers within the next ten years, I'll stand a round at the Marrowbone and Cleaver, (all you have to do is find it
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Might be worth considering BLK to hit the 1m mark soon. They reckon 1.2m in 2006. Compared to 70,000 in 2003 I'd say that was pretty good going for a small regional airport. Considering they have plans for a new terminal and with all the new routes being announced recently my bet is BLK will give LPL a run for its money in 5 to 10 years.
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Just check out 'city mayors' on google. Doncaster is the UKs largest town,and is no 21 largest on list including all cities. Must admit Doncaster is a metro district,but is virtually a city,and will be in the very near future. It is a boom town,and growing very fast. Pop today must be around 1/2 mill.
It has a larger population than Newcastle,Hull,Nottingham or Derby to name but a few. A few surprises there I guess.
It has a larger population than Newcastle,Hull,Nottingham or Derby to name but a few. A few surprises there I guess.
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Opps forgot about CVT! Sorry CVT fans!
My guess would be as follows:
DSA
CVT
EXT
BOH
MME
NWI
INV
HUY
Think EXT, BOH and MME will be very tight indeed and they may interchange in positions. I am going for EXT at the moment though cos I'm Devonian!
My guess would be as follows:
DSA
CVT
EXT
BOH
MME
NWI
INV
HUY
Think EXT, BOH and MME will be very tight indeed and they may interchange in positions. I am going for EXT at the moment though cos I'm Devonian!
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By comparing the size of the town or city with its airport then Luton is doing very well. With a population of around 160,000 its airport is now attracting 8.4 million passengers. Either Luton folk are very rich or they are attracting many inbound passengers who come to the town for a curry. I suppose being close to London might help Luton’s figures though.
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You have to remember that places like Leeds has Bradford next door to it with no real end of one place and start of the next., like wise Newcastle has Gateshead. Remember that LOndon is actually that big, you have to take into account the City of Westminster etc. So I think that to decide on population sizes for airports it is easier and more acurate to say out to a radius of x from each airport of drive time.
Devonair CVT will not handle as many passengers as MME, BOH or EXT for many years to come if ever. DSA may take them over next year although it'll be tight and if not next year will probably do it the year later.
Devonair CVT will not handle as many passengers as MME, BOH or EXT for many years to come if ever. DSA may take them over next year although it'll be tight and if not next year will probably do it the year later.
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Have to agree with Onion with regards to area population and airport pull in that saying Doncaster is bigger than Newcastle is a little skewed. The city centres of Newcastle and Gateshead are separated only by the width of the Tyne a couple minutes walk. I think you'd have to include Gateshead’s population with Newcastle and that would push Newcastle up with Leeds and Manchester.
Doncaster is pretty much a stand-alone centre, but the road, motorway and rail link network with Sheffield, Rotherham, and Bassetlaw are very good, and can be reached in minutes.
The one thing Doncaster (as a stand-alone centre) has got going for it, is its enviable geographical location. It’s set to become a logistic and transport communication hub, which will see unprecedented and continued growth, and a user friendly town/city for airport passengers and freight.
A good indicator of measuring success rate is on the average passenger per flight ratio. Using the CAA figures, DSA is up there with the big boys at an average of 109 per flight, and ahead of the next in the (said topic) list, MME (86).
I think most of the above airports will grow, but problems may arise when funding/finance is needed to upgrade terminals, lengthen runways etc in order to meet demand.
Doncaster is pretty much a stand-alone centre, but the road, motorway and rail link network with Sheffield, Rotherham, and Bassetlaw are very good, and can be reached in minutes.
The one thing Doncaster (as a stand-alone centre) has got going for it, is its enviable geographical location. It’s set to become a logistic and transport communication hub, which will see unprecedented and continued growth, and a user friendly town/city for airport passengers and freight.
A good indicator of measuring success rate is on the average passenger per flight ratio. Using the CAA figures, DSA is up there with the big boys at an average of 109 per flight, and ahead of the next in the (said topic) list, MME (86).
I think most of the above airports will grow, but problems may arise when funding/finance is needed to upgrade terminals, lengthen runways etc in order to meet demand.
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"I think you'd have to include Gateshead’s population with Newcastle and that would push Newcastle up with Leeds and Manchester."
I don't think so. Population of Newcastle on Tyne is 260k and Gateshead 190k giving a total of 450k. Leeds has 715k and Manchester is bigger.
Why does everybody think that Newcastle has this huge population?
I don't think so. Population of Newcastle on Tyne is 260k and Gateshead 190k giving a total of 450k. Leeds has 715k and Manchester is bigger.
Why does everybody think that Newcastle has this huge population?