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Are you saying that the investigating authorities make "allowances" for race? Or for non expat v expat? Or for who you know not what? Bring it here if they do... cause I'm sure that DGCAM or whoever your regulator might be they will not be happy to hear that there are seems to be two standards at work during an investigation...
Are you saying that the investigating authorities make "allowances" for race? Or for non expat v expat? Or for who you know not what? Bring it here if they do... cause I'm sure that DGCAM or whoever your regulator might be they will not be happy to hear that there are seems to be two standards at work during an investigation...
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Not sure why nationality plays any role in any level investigation, but I would only like to suggest that before we hang the guilty party we at least give him a fair trial. The ink isn't dry on the paper yet!
LC
The ink isn't dry on the paper yet!LC
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well there "got the t shirt" why don't you get the life to go with it....do you think every incident should be splattered all over the headlines and this website before the basic facts are out? if not does that constitute a cover up?..methinks not there has been no effort to hide or suppress details of this incident to folks whose business it is...namely GF employees...so continue to be a conspiracy theorist as u wish, but no coverups here..and btw i was speaking english when the better part of you was running down your mom's thigh!!!
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Go to www.gulf-daily-news.com letters page on 19th April for a denial of anything untoward happening on this flight!!
Viz. A Gulf Air spokesman said: "The Bangkok to Bahrain Gulf Air flight on April 5 was as normal as it ever could be"...................!!
Viz. A Gulf Air spokesman said: "The Bangkok to Bahrain Gulf Air flight on April 5 was as normal as it ever could be"...................!!
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This included a single-engine take-off? Surely you jest?
That Gulf News letter quote from the Gulf Air spokesperson looks as though he's exploiting the wrong date being cited. People sometimes forget that they're gaining or losing a day in air travel.
Letter verbatim:
COMING from Bangkok on April 5 on GA115 there was a tremendous bang on take off, sounded like a tyre burst.
I was actually sitting close to a GF First Officer who was flying on to another destination and he tried to find out what the problem was but he could not get into the flight deck.
No one mentioned anything to the passengers but we carried on to Bahrain and on arrival we all got off at an unusual place because apparently the aircraft was unable to taxi after landing.
I heard some rumours that the aircraft had struck a tree on take off and the remains of the tree were stuck in the engine and undercarriage but no-one seemed to know what was going on.
I haven't seen anything in the newspaper yet - but it was very worrying at the time.
Concerned
A Gulf Air spokesman said: "This letter was followed up and the Bangkok to Bahrain Gulf Air flight on April 5 was as normal as it ever could be."
The 330 single engine ferry? Don't think a contract capt would have got off that lightly.
That Gulf News letter quote from the Gulf Air spokesperson looks as though he's exploiting the wrong date being cited. People sometimes forget that they're gaining or losing a day in air travel.
A Gulf Air spokesman said: "This letter was followed up and the Bangkok to Bahrain Gulf Air flight on April 5 was as normal as it ever could be."
COMING from Bangkok on April 5 on GA115 there was a tremendous bang on take off, sounded like a tyre burst.
I was actually sitting close to a GF First Officer who was flying on to another destination and he tried to find out what the problem was but he could not get into the flight deck.
No one mentioned anything to the passengers but we carried on to Bahrain and on arrival we all got off at an unusual place because apparently the aircraft was unable to taxi after landing.
I heard some rumours that the aircraft had struck a tree on take off and the remains of the tree were stuck in the engine and undercarriage but no-one seemed to know what was going on.
I haven't seen anything in the newspaper yet - but it was very worrying at the time.
Concerned
A Gulf Air spokesman said: "This letter was followed up and the Bangkok to Bahrain Gulf Air flight on April 5 was as normal as it ever could be."
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The person submitting this letter to the GDN has the correct date????? and before they wrote thier "letter of concern" to the press, they should have looked at thier ticket (if they ever had one) because even the submitted flight number is incorrect....sounds like someone on a fishing expedition to me, and yes, I read the letter...
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Belgique. I'm refering to the 330 in flight shut down over KHI. If you don't know about it then you're not in GF. suffice to say it was refered to DGCAM who wanted a more positive response from GF but the end result was certainly different to how a western airline would have handled it. Nuff said.
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Whoever decided the flight number being wrong was an issue should realise that the GDN is prone to the odd typo!
The fact that the plane didn't taxi and the passengers were offloaded in situ tells you something was not quite right.
I've done 3 Bkk-Bah's in the last 3 months and every one has parked at the terminal so we can walk straight in.
The GDN are never going to slag off GF simply because they make too much money out of them.
No-one ever expects to hear the truth from GF.
Hogan has turned it into a mass transit airline with overworked cabin crew, and the main reason most people fly them is because they are filthy cheap.
If and when Thai Airways return to Bahrain, I'd happily leap on them every time rather than fly GF.
No fault on the flight deck, cabin crew or mtce. staff, they're just being run into the ground by poor management looking to turn a fast back at the expense of the airline's long term future (which I doubt is rosy anyway).
Mind you, with Emirates, Al Etihad and Qatar to compete with, they're up against it anyway.
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Desertia
The fact that the plane didn't taxi and the passengers were offloaded in situ tells you something was not quite right.
I've done 3 Bkk-Bah's in the last 3 months and every one has parked at the terminal so we can walk straight in.
The GDN are never going to slag off GF simply because they make too much money out of them.
No-one ever expects to hear the truth from GF.
Hogan has turned it into a mass transit airline with overworked cabin crew, and the main reason most people fly them is because they are filthy cheap.
If and when Thai Airways return to Bahrain, I'd happily leap on them every time rather than fly GF.
No fault on the flight deck, cabin crew or mtce. staff, they're just being run into the ground by poor management looking to turn a fast back at the expense of the airline's long term future (which I doubt is rosy anyway).
Mind you, with Emirates, Al Etihad and Qatar to compete with, they're up against it anyway.
Cheers,
Desertia
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desertia. Whats your point? there are numerous remote stands at Bahrain. Just coz you're not parked at an airbridge you think there's a major cover up in force? You may be a bit paranoid there fella. next thing you may be asking for a breathaliser test.
Walk on freight specialists we can do without in the industry thanks very much. 3 flights in 3 months? my cat flies more than that.
And although i don't agree with gf management, if it wasn't for hoges, bahrain wouldn't have an airline by now. You'd be getting the ferry to dubai for your international travel requirements.
Walk on freight specialists we can do without in the industry thanks very much. 3 flights in 3 months? my cat flies more than that.
And although i don't agree with gf management, if it wasn't for hoges, bahrain wouldn't have an airline by now. You'd be getting the ferry to dubai for your international travel requirements.
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(1) I'm merely establishing that in my experience it seems to be unusual for a fully laden Bkk-Bah to park on the tarmac and bus people to the terminal.
(2) Gulf Air would never cover anything up. Oh no. Please get real
(3) Totally agree with you that Hoges has turned the airline around. I believe his conditions were that he bring his own team in and that started with the bean counters. My point is that turning it into a budget airline is a terrible shame.
As someone else stated, it used to be a prestigious airline. Now it's just a cheap one. Maybe that's the market, I don't know.
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Desertia
(2) Gulf Air would never cover anything up. Oh no. Please get real
(3) Totally agree with you that Hoges has turned the airline around. I believe his conditions were that he bring his own team in and that started with the bean counters. My point is that turning it into a budget airline is a terrible shame.
As someone else stated, it used to be a prestigious airline. Now it's just a cheap one. Maybe that's the market, I don't know.
Cheers,
Desertia
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CEO James Hogan has, depending on the
outcome of the board of Inquiry into the recent incident of flight GF 151 ex
BKK on the 5th April, demanded the resignation of the OPS accountable
manager the VPO Mr Hameed Ali. It transpires the Capt involved in the
incident is Hameed Ali's nephew and that a mega cover up has been attempted
on his behalf by the accountable manager. Apparently Hogan is demanding his
resignation whatever the outcome anyway'
Even the nose cone had to be replaced!
VPO was also guy who checked out the Capt on GF072 who should never have been near an airport, let alone an aircraft!
outcome of the board of Inquiry into the recent incident of flight GF 151 ex
BKK on the 5th April, demanded the resignation of the OPS accountable
manager the VPO Mr Hameed Ali. It transpires the Capt involved in the
incident is Hameed Ali's nephew and that a mega cover up has been attempted
on his behalf by the accountable manager. Apparently Hogan is demanding his
resignation whatever the outcome anyway'
Even the nose cone had to be replaced!
VPO was also guy who checked out the Capt on GF072 who should never have been near an airport, let alone an aircraft!
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If that's true, and it happens, then it's very good news for the airline.
Agree with you on the overworked crew though.....on a GF008 ex LHR recently it took so long to serve the meal and so long to serve breakfast, there was a grand total of 2h30m for sleeping. On a 10pm departure, not good!
Agree with you on the overworked crew though.....on a GF008 ex LHR recently it took so long to serve the meal and so long to serve breakfast, there was a grand total of 2h30m for sleeping. On a 10pm departure, not good!
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Hoges vs Hameed Ali? If it's tue then it will be very interesting to see who wins that one. It doesn't suprise me in the slightest that it's a family cover up issue.
By the way, what ever happened to the Hill/Taha smoking and 'friends in the cockpit' battle? And i suppose the Skylion is back in the rhs?
By the way, what ever happened to the Hill/Taha smoking and 'friends in the cockpit' battle? And i suppose the Skylion is back in the rhs?
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Gulf Air BullS**t
So if, as Gulf Air put it, "The Bangkok to Bahrain Gulf Air flight on April 5 was as normal as it ever could be", then why are they having an investigation (which has been confirmed by two separate and very reliable sources now - I know two of the investigation team!).
If they are covering this up because of company politics, they need bloody shooting. That's what happened the last time they messed things up with the cowboy up the front.
Cheers,
Desertia
If they are covering this up because of company politics, they need bloody shooting. That's what happened the last time they messed things up with the cowboy up the front.
Cheers,
Desertia