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Old 24th Apr 2005, 18:22
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You are correct. I wasn't aware of that.
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Old 24th Apr 2005, 18:34
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Charterguy,

I had exactly the same thoughts as you on this matter - surely they can't have made such an elementary mistake! I'm not sure how this will affect applications to the US/Canada, but I'm really sceptical that they'll be allowed to operate to Cuba. All seems like a terribly late rush job.
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Old 24th Apr 2005, 19:46
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These L1011s are all ex Air Transat, but guess what, Air Transat will be the first to object to any 5th freedom applications for flights between UK and Canada !!

Not sure why Air Scotland don't do the decent thing and get themselves a proper U.K. AOC like everyone else. Greece may be in the EU, but that's about it.

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I just dont get it! If Air Scotland are trying to be serious in the market why do they use B 757's from Greece/ Are they wet leased? everyone that i have talked to have had mega delays. There relationship with Air Holland went down the chube. I think Air Holland did as well!! And while the L1011 may be nostalgic to some....come on...what serious airline nowadays wants to operate it? Are there not hundred awaiting their graves in the desert in Nevada or somewhere?? Quite agree Globespan seem to have a bit of a better idea of operating from GLA/EDI than Air Scotland...just hope there is room for both to be a success cos' by god Scottish airfields need it!!


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Old 30th Apr 2005, 13:38
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They are also planning to serve two Iraqi cities http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=461872005 and possibly Pakistan and Thailand as well all via Stanstead.
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Old 30th Apr 2005, 14:40
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Thanks for that link, but 'genuine' UK carriers can and probably would object to direct flights. I wonder if the owner of this 'ticketing outfit' (Air Scotland) is aware that Greece Airways (who are the actual airline operating Air Scotland's flights, and who are registered in Greece) would require 5th freedom traffic rights to operate these routes. Obviously not, otherwise they wouldn't be feeding this nonsense to the press ! ??

The only way this might work is with an intermediate stop in Greece. And if you can't fly non-stop, you might as well book with a proper airline like Emirates and have all the inflight comforts etc.

There are far too many people in the UK who think that all it takes is a pinstripe suit, a corner shop and a cellphone to start offering low cost services to Pakistan ;-)

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Old 30th Apr 2005, 16:46
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GLA-ATH will also go 5 weekly.

They announced today plans for flights to Baghdad aswell as all the other new long hauls announced last week.
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Old 29th May 2005, 16:22
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Are the 737's due soon?????
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Old 29th May 2005, 16:55
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I have not heard of any delivery dates for the piggy jets. They did (Air Scotland) get bad press last week. Had a 757 chartered to bring Liverppol fans back to John Lennon airport. Pax did not turn up on time and the scheduled flight ex GLA to Malaga i think it was was delayed by a number of hours which upset the pax naturally. Plus Air Scotland seemed to be pretty poor in informing them all of the delays. Any further news on the L1011's? Still think this is a recipe for disaster!!


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Old 29th May 2005, 17:03
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Last I heard Tristar deal was off.
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Old 29th May 2005, 17:19
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Pax did not turn up on time and the scheduled flight ex GLA to Malaga i think it was was delayed by a number of hours which upset the pax naturally
Furthurmore, because of that, the EDI flight after that was delayed for 8 or 9 hours, so not only did Air Scotland manage to upset one flight load of passengers, they managed to upset 2 loads, from two different airports! For the sake of a bit of extra dosh I presume, they sacrifice the possible repeat business of hundreds of passengers, presuming that any potential passengers haven't already ditched them by that point!
Will they ever learn?! They have one aircraft! Why must they insist on doing charters for other causes, especially during their busier summer schedule?!
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